/rhl Suggestion

[Mark]

That division was never opened and they are doing their first wave now, so I have no idea, how you saw them.


What I would suggest is, you only see the bips when you are close to it (( 500m ))n another point being that all the bips would be white and only cops would see the suspects orange (( Hookers, Firemen, Medics and Mechanics would remain with their color )). This would reduce the copbaiting by interfering the other suspects which the civilian has no RP approach with.

Mihail was , you weren't in IV:MP when he was chasing alone with a sultan :P

About hiding blips , they will always have a phone to call and receive aid somehow It can be a good thing , not to waste.

[Spike.]

About hiding blips , they will always have a phone to call and receive aid somehow It can be a good thing , not to waste.

If so /report would do the case, this may reduce the number that this happens dough. Just to add, if the vision of the bips gets reduced to 500m a /area command should be added which would be for example "/area 1337" "Sauron(1337) is located at [Street], [Area], [Island]" or "Sauron(1337) is inside [House/Building Name], [Area], [Island]

[superh2o]

Well as i dont wish to argue with you as we will end up chasing our own tails.

Increase in RHL will destroy the little balance that exists in Suspects vs Officers chases.
 For following reasons, you cant fight with the Police (your RLH skyrockets, free cops rejoin RP and any given time,while if i die as SU i'm out of RP for good. Officers get free fill up at PDs and that fill up is instant, and yet they complain when suspects do the same and buy fuel from mechanics, officers pack far bigger firepower then suspects in any situation.
For suspects that might rival the normal officers you have Noose with Anni, who so far just kills the suspects in 5-10min. HSRD will at least make things equal (we will have better chases) and Noose might stop using the Anni a bit as its getting unfair.)

But also we cant blaim officers for being good, as they put a lot of time in training at least its nice to see its paying off.

There that's how things are at this moment regarding police vs criminals power and perks.

If you keep boosting Police power, you will face the situation that the criminal side will quit.

One one likes to charge at windmills.

[Mark]

Why would you punish someone for aiding? There are ways and ways to aid a suspect , it's still rping if i call a friend to help me.

Let's not confuse

[superh2o]

Actually there are rules how can you aid and how you cant sadly i cant find the link at the moment...

[Spike.]

Why would you punish someone for aiding? There are ways and ways to aid a suspect , it's still rping if i call a friend to help me.

Let's not confuse

Ok, firstly if the civilian has no connection with the RP, and still join that is cop baiting.
But if the suspects both took part in the RP, it is fine. Now what I have experienced lately is they call a friend, then they escape while their friend does not. What do they do ? They return and aid the "friend" who aided in the first place until both of them escape, the why I think. If you are in the RP you can join the chase but not because you were called on /cb or /pm or just saw a suspect going down the street and feel like joining him.

[Mark]

Ok, firstly if the civilian has no connection with the RP, and still join that is cop baiting.
But if the suspects both took part in the RP, it is fine. Now what I have experienced lately is they call a friend, then they escape while their friend does not. What do they do ? They return and aid the "friend" who aided in the first place until both of them escape, the why I think. If you are in the RP you can join the chase but not because you were called on /cb or /pm or just saw a suspect going down the street and feel like joining him.

Also cops who join chase to aid other officers can't then, you cannot always presume that civilians who join rp make it to interrupt. They are also in search of fun in playing , if they really ruin the original RP feel free to report. I am of the idea that if they join without ruin they can expand the current scene and make it easier or funny.
I have said if i call with phone (also cb is fine for me) a friend to help me i don't see how you presume he came to cophunt.

Random joiners are the ones rulebreaking then, because they have not been called. Also keep in mind that it can happen once , two or three times, after that is called cophunting (random joining). This is my own thinking.

[superh2o]

Also cops who join chase to aid other officers can't then, you cannot always presume that civilians who join rp make it to interrupt. They are also in search of fun in playing , if they really ruin the original RP feel free to report. I am of the idea that if they join without ruin they can expand the current scene and make it easier or funny.
I have said if i call with phone (also cb is fine for me) a friend to help me i don't see how you presume he came to cophunt.

Random joiners are the ones rulebreaking then, because they have not been called. Also keep in mind that it can happen once , two or three times, after that is called cophunting (random joining). This is my own thinking.

sadly no mark, rules of aiding state that if the Suspect and the aiding player did not both been in the same RP that got Suspect suspected, the aiding player cant aid him and is cop baiting. That rule was put in place so groups don't get like 7 members suspected to save one, because things like that were happening.

Still there are ways of aiding with a RP, RP a crash to block or stall police a bit, Roadblocks are also RPeble and can be used to stall or block police, but this are highly situation rps and can easily go out of the border or RP into copbaiting, that's why they are not used as its hard to explain the usage in a normal way...as most officers SU you for aiding due to tags the group share, thus ignoring any RP that was put into a crash or the roadblock. But yeah you are right tere are ways to get help from friends over /call /pm /cb, and well it also depends on the player that is chasing you.

[Mark]

sadly no mark, rules of aiding state that if the Suspect and the aiding player did not both been in the same RP that got Suspect suspected, the aiding player cant aid him and is cop baiting. That rule was put in place so groups don't get like 7 members suspected to save one, because things like that were happening.

Still there are ways of aiding with a RP, RP a crash to block or stall police a bit, Roadblocks are also RPeble and can be used to stall or block police, but this are highly situation rps and can easily go out of the border or RP into copbaiting, that's why they are not used as its hard to explain the usage in a normal way...as most officers SU you for aiding due to tags the group share, thus ignoring any RP that was put into a crash or the roadblock. But yeah you are right tere are ways to get help from friends over /call /pm /cb, and well it also depends on the player that is chasing you.

I understand , indeed this was my own thinking but seems i forgot some things since i do not play much huh :P

Agreed with second part , as police does roadblocks also criminals can but you know how it is seen 

[psyron]

i dont care about NOOSE, annhi or even havok(the best cop i ever met), bring it all you want. but balance the cop vs criminal scenario in such a way that the criminals actualy has some leverage to escape. no i dont want to give up nor i want to die, i want to escape. how can you escape with a 30min RHL with 5+ cops chasing you in this small city? its pure gangbang and a never ending one to be precise..

No one makes you run, you can give up and its over + you save guns and fined less unless you aren't guilty at all, then you are free to go without any fines or losses.

are you kidding me? trying to bribe the criminals?

[Spike.]

i dont care about NOOSE, annhi or even havok(the best cop i ever met), bring it all you want. but balance the cop vs criminal scenario in such a way that the criminals actualy has some leverage to escape. no i dont want to give up nor i want to die, i want to escape. how can you escape with a 30min RHL with 5+ cops chasing you in this small city? its pure gangbang and a never ending one to be precise..

are you kidding me? trying to bribe the criminals?

You wont escape like a piece of cake. You are lucky it's just 30min and not a full warrant system which you could arrested even after 2 months (IRL) after committing the felony.

[psyron]

You wont escape like a piece of cake. You are lucky it's just 30min and not a full warrant system which you could arrested even after 2 months (IRL) after committing the felony.

this is not real life mate, this is argonath RPG, stay away from real life here.

[superh2o]

You wont escape like a piece of cake. You are lucky it's just 30min and not a full warrant system which you could arrested even after 2 months (IRL) after committing the felony.

Since when is Argo a RL simulator? Its a game and using a precious  30 min of you daily 1h gaming time just to evade is kinda unfair, don't you think? you lose 30 min too since you need to chase him for 30 minutes..

[Spike.]

this is not real life mate, this is argonath RPG, stay away from real life here.

I am stating the facts, now choose easy way and get jailed or hard way and get respect.

Since when is Argo a RL simulator? Its a game and using a precious  30 min of you daily 1h gaming time just to evade is kinda unfair, don't you think? you lose 30 min too since you need to chase him for 30 minutes..

I stated 30 minutes as an example, could be more or could be less, but don't expect to be away from the cops 5 minutes and escape.

[psyron]

I am stating the facts, now choose easy way and get jailed or hard way and get respect.

you are the type of cop who wants money without competition. the cop and criminal scenario is very much biased now, evident enough. ggwp once again i would rather gather a group of 6-7 guys now and go on a mass DM spree after getting suspected. 30mins RHL is fair now

peace out