SA:MP Argonath Roleplay explanations

[Fatboy_Rob]

See, this is a perfect example though, if you guys could work as a team, you can catch anyone.

Ron, did you, or did you not catch me, with 33 other people when we were bickering at each other about lag & my car & stuff?

[Trobby888]

how was it boring? lol
in between each car i was on foot screwing with you guys...
you dont remeber when we were near the south PnS and we you guys kept jumping over the wall when i was jumping on the opposite direction?
yea, screwing with you guys.
Driving around all day is not fun at all, why do you think i was roof jumping in south ganton & stuff? why do you think i was driving circles around you guys and scrambling you guys, to have some fun? lol...

and it was fun, cause it was a citywide 9 car cop chase on me for an hour and 45 minutes.

Just like MTA ~ 5 cars, but its not so enforced.
SA:MP ~ Possibility for respray ~ 5 car limit ~ Very enforced.

How was it boring? To the suspect, it sounds fun. They run around constantly in cars and think it is fun as the cops cannot find a way to ram and stop you. By doing this, they begin to think about harassing the cops by driving around in circles and think it's funny. They do not understand the frustration, like what you are thinking now according to the posts you are creating. The cops cannot think it is fun as well since they're being harassed by the constant runner. Unlike real life, in the game, you can see very clearly the position of the cops on the minimap. This means they can figure easy ways to get away in cars and also even harass them as you can easily predict where they will go. When it comes top stopping a running car, even the largest number of cops cannot stop the suspect by known strategies used in the real world, as they can be revealed to the suspect on the minimap. Not to mention, even if the suspect was rammed, unless if his car flips (Which is very unlikely to happen), he will just turn around and keep running and pretend nothing happened. This, in addition, this is a very non-rp scene, as in real life, you would expect a car to stop as it car suffers engine damage and hence cannot move on.

That was the reason the 5 car rule in mta was introduced in the 1st place. Because it was impossible to directly stop a suspect from running. We could only stop them if they kept crashing into poles or side obstacles and eventually the car explodes. The repair glitch could be used to repair the car, however, it only worked if there were 2 people, and also, it's a glitch, meaning you cannot use it during a pursuit as you can gain advantage over another with it. In SAMP however, you can just simply go into a Pay and Spray. When the cops are far enough, you could simply go into the Pay and Spray, put the car back to 100hp. This is basically just the same as getting a new car. With such a place, a 5 car chase can turn into a 25 car chase, making it rather boring and silly for the cops. This is the reason Aragorn brought the rule number four too, if you are not aware.

Also, enforced? What, not so enforced in MTA? In MTA, you get caught by the admins running in the 6th car during a pursuit and the admins will ask you to get out of the 6th car. And if you ignore them, you will get punished. How's that "not so enforced"? In samp, it's very enforced that the car limit is reduced as there are more possibilities to repair you car in the process of the pursuit, hence you can make the pursuit last much longer and more boring.

What does jumping around walls and roof jumping have to do with this discussion? I brought this discussion to talk about people who only constantly run in cars and never put a fight or even do something rather funny by not using the cars. In the case you brought, about 90% of the chase was all just running in cars, making the other actions you committed a weak part of the level of fun given in the pursuit. Roof jumping and wall climbing was perhaps the fun part of the chase, however, this is not relevent to the discussion at hand.

I don't mind normal car chases but it is not fun if it lasts for too long, such as today, 90 minutes = =

In that circumstance the only person who would be having fun is the suspect :|

Agreed. A 5 minute car chase, then a fight at a favoured location would be alright. However, a car chase for 90 minutes, all just driving? No way.

[Fatboy_Rob]

About the minimap: It's part of the game, you use it, i use it, 100% of argonath uses it.
Your shining light into a black hole with that one.

And you know why i mess with you guys?
cause you guys continue to follow the 'idiots path', as, when i am driving around pershing square, for some, unknown, dumbass reason(sorry, but yeh) you continue to follow me, not even try to setup a roadblock...

and you guys are so predictable, its like the cat playing with its prey before the pray dies.
Just some fun.

Now, if you had any teamwork, or any sense to catch on to my pattern, you could have stopped me, but no, you had tunnel vision on me, the whole time.
and 45 mins of that chase, i was driving a sabre.
You had all the chance's in the world to stop me, but every chance, i found a way out of it, cause you left a huge chance for me to flee.

My Advice for you trobby:
Get some other cops, use teamwork, and bring me down.
and your wrong, i did stand and fight, i killed squeak cause he was trying to shoot me, then 7 of you came around the corner, so i ran.

1 guy with a shotgun
Vs.
6 deagles and a MircoSMG?



and your problem with the pay & sprays: dont want me to keep using pay & sprays?
Learn to drive and block me into one...

[Trobby888]

Well hayden, most of the time, you must realize it's not possible everytime that I can block you from respraying the car. Obviously, you would find a time where you would know your opponent could not get near you.

Btw, so you're saying aragorn is wrong about reducing the car limit in SAMP with the new rules and regulations?

[Fatboy_Rob]

Ehh no.
Please dont out words in my mouth that i never said


anyways, if your gonna reduce that, just because people dont have the common sense to drive, you might as well ban the bikes.

If your gonna do that, might as well ban all fast cars.
If your gonna do that, might as well ban all heli's.
If your gonna do that, might as well ban all boats.
If your gonna do that, might as well ban people from swimming.
If your gonna do that, might as well ban cars all together.

Then what do you have just because people cant drive?
Argonath RPG 3.0 Hiking server.

[Trojan_Fabrizio]

NO BIKES LOLOL!!! :mot:

OK, seriously... That's a little harsh, maybe you should make being a criminal and using a 2 wheeled vehicle a kickable offence. To be honnest, in real life criminals use bikes to escape cops because bikes can go places cars can't. Pretty clever if you ask me but I don't care if you didn't ask me :razz:.

[Castor_Troy]

NO BIKES LOLOL!!! :mot:

OK, seriously... That's a little harsh, maybe you should make being a criminal and using a 2 wheeled vehicle a kickable offence. To be honnest, in real life criminals use bikes to escape cops because bikes can go places cars can't. Pretty clever if you ask me but I don't care if you didn't ask me :razz:.

I dont think so many criminals use bikes IRL, cause if they fall once, they get seriusly hurt or in some cases its fatal. In argonath, its damn imposible to get the driver of the bike. whats the rp in that.

Anyways i wanted to coment the fact that people dont know police can jack criminals out of theyre vehicles in order to arrest them. Just yesterday i got admin killed when i threw an known highlevel admin out of his heli. He also patronised me in OOC for suspecting him when he was standing on weedfield. Seemed like he didnt know that i can suspect for that. and it doesnt stop there, he comes back 5 mins later in cadet skin and stands on weedfield. i confront him but he says hes guarding it, like i was. The difference was i wasnt standing on the field and he was. Hes ARPD too btw, but i dont wanne say any names. I think if the person reads this hes gonna realise.

So if we can clearify the "jacking suspects" rules so all understands this. Also whats the best rp: throwing suspect out of car or shooting hes car to destroy it? I prefer the first because thats what cops do IRL when they get the chance.

[PMP]

thats the problem with SA itself, in VC, you can fell of the by just by spinning too much, in SA you need to go against a wall at 210kph and the bikes in SA rarely reach that.
But bikes have their disavantages too, for example you an be shot when on top of one. And you fall, and in SA they aren't faster than cars in top speed.

I dont think they should be ban.

And irl people do toy cops with bikes, just tipe "ghostrider cop" on youtube and check for yourself.

[Kitsune]

Are mountain bikes and bmx going to be removed aswell. Imo those are h4x, you can get to high speed faster then a lot of other cars and even jump over very high walls and onto roofs. That is just too unrealistic and gives high advantage to the suspect.

[Fatboy_Rob]

Hence the reason they are being removed, Ghost.

[Kitsune]

Oh that's good then, I didn't know if it was just motorbikes or normal bikes aswell.

[PMP]

WHAT NO BICYCLES?????NOOOOOEEEESSS 

how am i gonna do my chill out cycling now? that sucks.

I'm starting to think that cops in LS are just lazy, they already have more weapons than the criminals, cars are fast, cop bikes too, and now you want to remove all vehicles that make a police outrun possible????

[Aragorn]

To be honnest, in real life criminals use bikes to escape cops because bikes can go places cars can't.

Read correct and once again why we came to conclusion to remove bikes...
I think I wrote the reasons clearly... And there is NO such reason as "cops cannot follow bikers between houses"...

[PMP]

I have to agree to cause, today i was foolowing a suspect on a bike, it was all fine, great pursuit, I manage to make the suspect kiss the ground, but she hopped on the bike, while she was doing this i was shooting her with shotgun, but the bullets had no effect while she was entering the bike.
AND THAT ISN'T LIKE IRL!! It looked more like MTA like.

BIKES off.

[Aragorn]

AND THAT ISN'T LIKE IRL!! It looked more like MTA like.

Correction: In MTA you can shoot tires and as well you can shoot down a biker even if he is on bike...
On SA:MP bullets do not do any damage...