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on: February 09, 2015, 02:44:31 am
Alright so, you haven't seen me posting around much as I've been inactive lately, and unfortunately I still am due to my health issues, but nevermind that now.
What I came to discuss here is groups and families.
As most of you know, I'm not the type of guy to keep quiet if I see something that's not right.
I'll try elaborating as much as possible so everyone gets what I'm trying to say.

Your character:
Example: The biker guys. You seen those dudes RP? They're fucking awesome at it.
Their characters are BIKERS, which means: They drive freeways, drink beer and chase hookers.(Edge :P )
And the best part of it? They stick to their roleplay.
Of course, here you are free to roleplay anything you wish, which is a great thing indeed.
But what bothers me the most is, the same people who bitch about people NOT roleplaying are the people who don't roleplay, or even try to.
To me, it just looks like some people do not understand the meaning of ROLEPLAY.
You want people to roleplay? Then start by doing that yourself.
And I'm writing this from a players perspective, not an admins.
As an admin to you: Instead of suspecting or chasing down to kill a new player cause he punched you, try teaching him a thing or two.

And the families/gangs?
It's just the same everywhere, isn't it? Drugs, kills, properties, money and cars. Is that what it's all about? If you answered yes then damn, you're the one wrong.

Mafias:
You guys have ranks for a god damn reason. You're the family's boss? Then act like one.
Your family is called a bunch of DMers? Then yeah, you're the one to blame first.
You're the LEADER. If you don't want your family to do that, then TELL them, you're there to GUIDE them as a leader.
The ranks you set?
Yeah, underboss, street soldier, associate or however it goes.
To put it simple for this one aswell:
You're the leader - LEAD them. The underboss is here to help you with that. The street soldiers are the one to execute your orders, the associates are well..for whatever you decide them to be. Get creative!
What's the point of owning a bunch of cars when it will be a failure?
Yes, I understand it's just a game and we're all here to have fun. But we can't all be leaders here now, can we? Take ME for example. I don't like leadership, I just don't feel like I'm fit for leading a whole family. It's actually much responsibility you're taking by creating a family. For what I see? I, myself prefer roleplaying a street soldier over a leader. Leading sometimes sucks if you RP it properly. All you do is just gather information and put orders out. The real fun is in executing them.
And to go back a bit and mix up characters and families:
Example: Your character is a street soldier of a certain family, right?
But it's only a STREET soldier. Which means you FOLLOW orders, not GIVING them.
And as you guys call it "RPish", want it to be like that? Then make it like that.
You can't go around kidnapping and extorting people without your leaders knowledge and permission. That's just NOT how it goes ANYWHERE in a family.



Sorry but, another example I have to share:
What the fuck is up with the kidnaps and extortion? You complain about no roleplay when you're the one to kidnap someone>call 911> "hey cops I got a hostage, pay 1m or he dies." That's simply retarded.

And the cops in those situations?
You guys..ARGHHHH!!!
There's like four people on duty and they all race to the crime scene to kill/cuff a person first for what? 500$? I mean..really guys?!
Try being COPS instead. Operate, teamwork! It's actually more effective then going all by yourself.
Example: A Senior officer and five Officers are on duty.
Normally, the Senior Officer at that time is in charge of the situation. FOLLOW his orders, he's a senior officer for a reason.
He'll form a group, give you positions and orders you should follow. Only THEN, the whole thing can go the way every cop wants it to go.

That's all the time I have now. For anyone who did not get my point: I'll try being around as much as possible to set more examples of how things should actually work.
Also, I apologize for any words that might not be suitable for an admin, but then again - we're human, right? I wrote what I wrote because I simply am mad at the current situation of mostly everything.

- Astaroth.



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Reply #1 on: February 09, 2015, 02:58:06 am


You couldn't be any more on point with RP characters and Mafia... and kidnappings... spot on.

Good post.



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Reply #2 on: February 09, 2015, 03:38:53 am
Respect man, thanks for speaking up.


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Reply #3 on: February 09, 2015, 04:59:49 am
Thank you both.
Don't be afraid to speak your mind, guys! :)



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Reply #4 on: February 09, 2015, 12:51:09 pm
Teddy said it all...  :app:


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Reply #5 on: February 09, 2015, 01:35:02 pm
Teddy said it all...  :app:

Asta, I want to thank you personally as well. I too have this on my mind, yet you taking the initiative instead is better. Great post, so to say.



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Reply #6 on: February 09, 2015, 01:35:04 pm



i actually did read a bit, i guess well said or something


Too bad nobody will really change.



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Reply #7 on: February 09, 2015, 01:38:04 pm



i actually did read a bit, i guess well said or something


Too bad nobody will really change.

Simple answer - You can fuck right off.
Complex answer - Go to school or a medical institution and have your mind checked. Show some respect towards those actually trying to make a difference and stop being such a worthless piece of shit.



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Reply #8 on: February 09, 2015, 01:48:08 pm
If you guys acknowledge some stuff about ROLEPLAY and don't take it as the usual bullshit excuse to kill someone (which is what RP is for many people on the server), then yeah a change will take place and you will see how much more fun you will have.



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Reply #9 on: February 09, 2015, 01:57:52 pm
This is a great and useful post. But about you being a street soldier more then a leader, well being a street soldier or something lower from the leader is very fun. But, when you are a leader you have power, your the head of the group, controlling everything.



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Reply #10 on: February 09, 2015, 02:00:16 pm
I admire those who report someone's post as immature right after their own immature post. Hypocrites.

If you can't handle it don't do it yourself. Oh and enjoy your forum mute.



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Reply #11 on: February 09, 2015, 02:49:42 pm
[...]
Too bad nobody will really change.

This message is cleary for you :)

I'll quote, as you never going to reread the first post:

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You want people to roleplay? Then start by doing that yourself.
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Do not be afraid of things you do not know (yet)...


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Reply #12 on: February 09, 2015, 03:13:27 pm
Some don't have the care or mental capacity to understand Tov, no need wasting time on those like him. Focus on those who want improvements and with that they'll see how better things are and maybe catch on :D



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Reply #14 on: February 09, 2015, 03:31:08 pm
Some don't have the care or mental capacity to understand Tov, no need wasting time on those like him. Focus on those who want improvements and with that they'll see how better things are and maybe catch on :D
Woops sorry... I still believe in a perfect world  :D

Wish this would actually make a difference.
It does when -->
[...]
You want people to roleplay? Then start by doing that yourself.
[...]
People still cannot believe it... but it does!


Do not be afraid of things you do not know (yet)...


 


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