Stuff I'd like to point out. Please read.

[Kostas]

You keep on saying how the change will come from the players ... yet again when the players ask for more rules you turn them down. not using /pm and /cb when you are being kidnapped is common sense you'd say, yet again it is fully allowed... Make a rule about it, we have many rules, both official and unofficial, useful and useless, smart and dump, just add a couple more... Anyway, I don't think that talking here will make an actual difference. Leading by examble is what we've been trying for the past years ... Guess what. It didn't work, now if you think that it will. Visit my Einstein post, see that memo, make sure that you get it. And start thinking about it.

[Cyril]

If we add more rules, you, players, will be the first one to complain.

[Tiny]

If we add more rules, you, players, will be the first one to complain.

Why would a player complain when a rule gives out a solution?

However, there is no need for new rules. Read what people have said on this topic, more than enough if people implement their ideas.

[AryaN]

If we add more rules, you, players, will be the first one to complain.

Just add a rule "Use your common sense"
And players will understand if they really use it.

[Daco]

Just add a rule "Use your common sense"

If that was a rule this thread wouldn't be here..

[Teddy]

Why would a player complain when a rule gives out a solution?

Because:

Some claim they want us to be more like other servers while in reality if you acted like the little shits a minority of people in the community act like... you'd be banned from these other servers in a heartbeat. I know admins in some of these other servers who have zero tolerance for 90% of the bulshit attitude and blatant disrespect handled by the team here; but won't second guess turning around and putting a player in their place if need be.

Consider that before you get what you wish for.

[diddeh]

Considering that the activity of the two of you is similar to mine over the past months (and that is not good) you should know that we are willing to cooperate with players, not with trolls who want to make this a generic server so they do not have to switch on their brain when entering.

You know, stating your opinion doesn't necessarily mean you are trolling you know? I'm not sure where you people get that from..

[Teddy]

If that was a rule this thread wouldn't be here..

Neither would a fair population of the community.

[Teddy]

You know, stating your opinion doesn't necessarily mean you are trolling you know? I'm not sure where you people get that from..

You are right. It's how the opinion is stated and the purpose of stating the opinion behind it. Motive is a large factor, well, if not the biggest factor.

[Gandalf]

You keep on saying how the change will come from the players ... yet again when the players ask for more rules you turn them down. not using /pm and /cb when you are being kidnapped is common sense you'd say, yet again it is fully allowed... Make a rule about it, we have many rules, both official and unofficial, useful and useless, smart and dump, just add a couple more... Anyway, I don't think that talking here will make an actual difference. Leading by examble is what we've been trying for the past years ... Guess what. It didn't work, now if you think that it will. Visit my Einstein post, see that memo, make sure that you get it. And start thinking about it.

If you want to make rules they must be simple and enforceable.
So lets see if we would follow your suggestion and make a rule that it is not allowed to use /pm and /cb during a kidnap situation.
Here comes a kidnap situation and at some point some ZOMGRPer is reporting to the admins that the kidnapped person used /pm or /cb, which he denies.
1. How are you going to find out who is speaking the truth? It would need a ful log check to find out the time the person was actually under control of the kidnappers so he should not use these, and to read every time he and anyone suspected of arriving due to his call for help in order to find out if they did discuss this or something else. This would take a manager about 30 minutes, admins do not have direct access to logs. Do you really believe the offense is so bad it needs a manager to spend 30 minutes on?
2. Supposed the manager would find that the rule was broken, what would be the punishment?

Remember that our team is strictly forbidden to punish on hunches or say-so of others. Now let us see your Einstein solution.

[SkyHawk]

I do hope you use a mirror, as you are displaying exactly what you are wanting to change.

No where in that statement did I claim I was exempt from those policies, I am as guilty of it as everyone else is. The point I was trying to get across was the idea that we actually need to make an active effort to start doing something rather than talking about it, or simply waiting for someone else to go out and do it. Take responsibility for our actions and don't rely on others to take care of the things that we have the ability to achieve ourselves.

[Marcel]

[Kostas]

If you want to make rules they must be simple and enforceable.
So lets see if we would follow your suggestion and make a rule that it is not allowed to use /pm and /cb during a kidnap situation.
Here comes a kidnap situation and at some point some ZOMGRPer is reporting to the admins that the kidnapped person used /pm or /cb, which he denies.
1. How are you going to find out who is speaking the truth? It would need a ful log check to find out the time the person was actually under control of the kidnappers so he should not use these, and to read every time he and anyone suspected of arriving due to his call for help in order to find out if they did discuss this or something else. This would take a manager about 30 minutes, admins do not have direct access to logs. Do you really believe the offense is so bad it needs a manager to spend 30 minutes on?
2. Supposed the manager would find that the rule was broken, what would be the punishment?

Remember that our team is strictly forbidden to punish on hunches or say-so of others. Now let us see your Einstein solution.

May Einstein guide me!
Well, guess some scripting would be needed(Ye ye bad I know). So it'd be a command like /whateverthef**kitmaybe ID , the person who got that would have to accept it, in order for his pm, cb, radio to be completly set off, so that he can neither read those chats, nor answer to them. (similar to /repair ID). If that person denied to accept the command, and administrator would be abled to understand, when someone is actually in a situation where contacting anyone else would be hard to impossible.
Now yeah I do understand that people may just walk up to someone, aim a weapon and do /blabla to him straight away, without any RP. That would indeed be bad... but yet again, it would be the same as the mechanics. (Not implying that I'd like that outcome, simply using a command, but we are not mature enough to do it iwthout it, clearly).

[Marcel]

May Einstein guide me!
Well, guess some scripting would be needed(Ye ye bad I know). So it'd be a command like /whateverthef**kitmaybe ID , the person who got that would have to accept it, in order for his pm, cb, radio to be completly set off, so that he can neither read those chats, nor answer to them. (similar to /repair ID). If that person denied to accept the command, and administrator would be abled to understand, when someone is actually in a situation where contacting anyone else would be hard to impossible.
Now yeah I do understand that people may just walk up to someone, aim a weapon and do /blabla to him straight away, without any RP. That would indeed be bad... but yet again, it would be the same as the mechanics. (Not implying that I'd like that outcome, simply using a command, but we are not mature enough to do it iwthout it, clearly).

So scripts have to be made specially for people who have such mental issues that they cannot even participate in fun, mutually respectful roleplay?

[Gandalf]

May Einstein guide me!
Well, guess some scripting would be needed(Ye ye bad I know). So it'd be a command like /whateverthef**kitmaybe ID , the person who got that would have to accept it, in order for his pm, cb, radio to be completly set off, so that he can neither read those chats, nor answer to them. (similar to /repair ID). If that person denied to accept the command, and administrator would be abled to understand, when someone is actually in a situation where contacting anyone else would be hard to impossible.
Now yeah I do understand that people may just walk up to someone, aim a weapon and do /blabla to him straight away, without any RP. That would indeed be bad... but yet again, it would be the same as the mechanics. (Not implying that I'd like that outcome, simply using a command, but we are not mature enough to do it iwthout it, clearly).

If you make a script you do not need a rule. So what do you actually want?
Besides that a script would not exactly solve the issue, because everyone will know that if they suddenly stop speaking on /pm and /cb they are kidnapped... not to mention being kidnapped the use of /pm and /cb for non.RP related subject at least kills some tome.
Besides that, would it be disallowed to kidnap someone unless they accepted the command? Which could lead to endless discussions about forced roleplay.
In the end the command would hardly be used because those inclined to use it would be the same players who would normally not use /pm and /cb to warn others.

As you see, your idea of a simple solution is not so simple at all, it is much more simple to leave it up to the common sense and imagnation of the players.