Allow groups to reserve HQs.

[[Rstar]Peter]

This idea is cool, not bad actually, but it needs a lot of works to be done, however it's not practical, to be honest.

Or if you do not agree about reserving them, then force people to comply with the roleplay consequences. If he gets killed for the house, it should be left unowned.

And I believe HQ will not agree with this, as Argonath is not strict RP server, and forcing roleplay is not allowed.
(It's obvious that second party doesn't like to sell his property so he'll probably wont agree with this RP, that's why it's kinda forced RP)

[Stivi]

It has been happening with every damn group I have been in lately.

Well, obviously the same thing happened with GSF. Everyone bought properties around the block so they could sell.

When Gvardia wanted to purchase houses near our HQ, after the apartment block was set we immediatly bought all the houses.

My point was, if someone notices you RPing at a spot, he might use that as an opportunity to make some easy cash.


On a side note, if he dies in a RP, the  government will have to then auction his properties unless he inherits them. Talk to the HQ.

[Manas]

Not practical, every new coming group will register themselves a HQ.

How would it be if someone pays half the amount of the property and then he gets a 2 weeks time to pay a remaining half? The HQ will be reserved for 2 weeks atleast

[jovanca]

Well reserving the HQ idea, i disagree.
But, as i said above, i think that areas selected by groups for their 'hood' should be limited to that group only (unless someone else already owns a property there)

[Tiny]

Do you guys read? I already said that I am talking about an HQ in their teritorry, and also some restrictions can be added on what and when a group can protect a building from being bought.

[Miki.]

Do you guys read? I already said that I am talking about an HQ in their teritorry, and also some restrictions can be added on what and when a group can protect a building from being bought.

I think this goes mainly to gangs and not mafias.
Cause in mafias propertys add respect to a mafia , gangs mainly own territorys or streets and they mainly pick streets that are less used , so thouse who are buying a house in thouse streets are doing it to annoy/make a profit , if this goes for gangs I'm with you on this one !

[Tiny]

I think this goes mainly to gangs and not mafias.
Cause in mafias propertys add respect to a mafia , gangs mainly own territorys or streets and they mainly pick streets that are less used , so thouse who are buying a house in thouse streets are doing it to annoy/make a profit , if this goes for gangs I'm with you on this one !

Yes. I'm obviously talking about a mobster who somehow is interested in a building which is located in the poor neighbourhood of East Los Santos.

[Devin]

Whilst I also dislike it when other players intentionally go and invade on a groups space by purchasing properties where they are operating, it would also not be fair to say "Oh you can't buy here because a group is setup close by".

However it is also not appreciated when players do it purely for the money, just to try and make some money out of a groups members to purchase properties from them. Unfortunately greed is a part of life, some people know how to be subtle about it whilst others will run other people into the ground for every last dollar they can get.

It would also not be practical for every random group that appears to get a "reserved" HQ either, I am sure everyone is well aware of how many pop-up groups come and go every month.


And before people get confused;

2-3 months + gets you recognised

Not every group will get recognized or official, only those that really put effort in to get a status will earn it.

[beLTa]

Not every group will get recognized or official, only those that really put effort in to get a status will earn it.

That's what I wanted you to understand.

[Marcel]

Whilst I also dislike it when other players intentionally go and invade on a groups space by purchasing properties where they are operating, it would also not be fair to say "Oh you can't buy here because a group is setup close by".

However it is also not appreciated when players do it purely for the money, just to try and make some money out of a groups members to purchase properties from them. Unfortunately greed is a part of life, some people know how to be subtle about it whilst others will run other people into the ground for every last dollar they can get.

It would also not be practical for every random group that appears to get a "reserved" HQ either, I am sure everyone is well aware of how many pop-up groups come and go every month.

This greedy behavior is a business practice which is frowned upon by many, albeit fully within the rules. This is why we need to encourage legal roleplay and develop a more 'complete' constitution (eg. not in the current, very closed and secretive manner). This way, practices like that can be outlawed or otherwise reduced (eg. develop a law that outlaws property prices that are 50% higher than the property base value <- just an example).

So yes, this can actually be solved by roleplaying.

[Tiny]

Whilst I also dislike it when other players intentionally go and invade on a groups space by purchasing properties where they are operating, it would also not be fair to say "Oh you can't buy here because a group is setup close by".

However it is also not appreciated when players do it purely for the money, just to try and make some money out of a groups members to purchase properties from them. Unfortunately greed is a part of life, some people know how to be subtle about it whilst others will run other people into the ground for every last dollar they can get.

It would also not be practical for every random group that appears to get a "reserved" HQ either, I am sure everyone is well aware of how many pop-up groups come and go every month.


And before people get confused;
Not every group will get recognized or official, only those that really put effort in to get a status will earn it.

I considered everything you stated before posting, but thought that an actions could be taken when it comes to a so serious case. It's not just a house I want, it's a building which will keep a whole gang safe and lots of people have worked hard to own. Just when we collected and gathered up the last money, some random greedy person pops up and owns it.

Let me know if there's absolutely no way to get it, because nobody of us is giving 1 million ARD to such a person.

[Martijn]

I think this can work if the way how will be, as mentioned, will be calculated, and only if certain rules regarding to the system will be encouraged.

[Devin]

Let me know if there's absolutely no way to get it, because nobody of us is giving 1 million ARD to such a person.

That's just absurd, taking a building for ransom in a sense.

[Huntsman]

Sadly I have to disagree with you this time. These people worked hard on their money and I see no reason why should they be restricted from using them? If they were faster than you in buying them, then you'll have to work harder to pay the buyout.

[Tiny]

Sadly I have to disagree with you this time. These people worked hard on their money and I see no reason why should they be restricted from using them? If they were faster than you in buying them, then you'll have to work harder to pay the buyout.

Are you explaining the logic behind those people or something?