Gvardia not Recognized?

[Hady.]

No, I did NOT say that they lost their status because of being 13 year olds on periods. I said that they so far have not proven that they're worth to receive it back because lately they've been acting like 13 year olds on period. Their recent attitude of "complain complain complain complain" and in game acts overall would make it pretty clear as of why I used such description. So stop seeing what you want to see, but read what's actually freaking written, Captain Justice.

[Brian]

No, I did NOT say that they lost their status because of being 13 year olds on periods. I said that they so far have not proven that they're worth to receive it back because lately they've been acting like 13 year olds on period. Their recent attitude of "complain complain complain complain" and in game acts overall would make it pretty clear as of why I used such description. So stop seeing what you want to see, but read what's actually freaking written, Captain Justice.

So you are complaining about people complaining about an issues they have.
I am quite sure you are the one that has been complaining since the start of RS5, tried out your train yet?

[Huntsman]

So you are complaining about people complaining about an issues they have.
I am quite sure you are the one that has been complaining since the start of RS5, tried out your train yet?

If you weren't an ignorant ass you're being right now, you would have noticed that 90 percent of what I had to say was defending RS5 since it's damn release. I was one of those people who voted YES to change RS4 to RS5 Beta.
And yes I did. Once again, if you weren't being an ignorent ass gathering facts that are completely out of context to counter-argue with me you'd have seen that I made atleast 15-20 routes with my train company until going inactive because I deemed that saying my last goodbyes to my grandmother was far more important than some f**cking train on a f**cking virtual reality server.

>Creates a public topic on the subject
>None of your bussiness.

[Brian]

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Not mad, just stating that most of your posts are being provocations against other players because you have another ideology than them. Instead of constantly bashing in to people, show some respect and show ways of how it should be done rather then 'you look like 13 year olds on their first periods' or stuff like that.
You are calling me ignorant, yet you were one of the first to come and moan about how shit RS5 was too. So ye, call me all you want but look at your self too.
And my condolences towards your grandmother, may she rest in peace.

[Stivi]

No, I did NOT say that they lost their status because of being 13 year olds on periods. I said that they so far have not proven that they're worth to receive it back because lately they've been acting like 13 year olds on period. Their recent attitude of "complain complain complain complain" and in game acts overall would make it pretty clear as of why I used such description. So stop seeing what you want to see, but read what's actually freaking written, Captain Justice.

You're an idiot, you understand that ? I posted the picture to show that you are inactive and YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT to judge how we act, when you yourself don't know anything about what we're trying.

Do you understand that much or do I have to break it down to you ?

It was not Gvardia who made this topic, it was another player. As a group leader I know why we are not recognized or official.

We are not moaning why Corleone is still recognized because we are capable enough of reading the criteria.

[Cofiliano]

Nice topic.

Denis is the winner of this years stupidity reply:"Gvardia wasn't around since the rs5 reset". I think he's talking about his group who's around last few months.
We were around for a whole year after rs5, and yeah we went inactive for the last few months, mostly cause  some of our ideas weren't accepted, main one was about drug script, so criminals shouldn't be forced to earn solo from fireduty. So we chilled for sometime, and unlike others we returned stronger and better then ever, and we grown back to our size and quality in all criterias.

About the status, I'm happy we all lost, and no one can complain about it, I just wish to see such devotion for f fixing the reasons we all went inactive. And of course we're gonna get it back, and without even trying hard, cause our quality and work is beyond recognised status.

People should look at why Gvardia had a status instead of blaming people for why they lost it.
Gvardia should have never been given an official status when they eventually "started" in RS5 however I twisted some regulations and made it happen along with an agreement.
Unfortunately people fail to see the bigger picture far too often and want to choose the easy route.

The group was given an official status when it had barely started on RS5 after all, the entire group pretty much vanished at the start of RS5 because people didn't like something or another thing.
The status was removed and that is that. If you want to get it back then prove to the server and the staff that you deserve it back. Stop pointing at other groups and questioning their status.

And there's a reason why you did all of that, cause when we came back the server activity went from an average of 10-15 people, to 40-45 people. Cause its not just Gvardia who we called back as I'm sure you remember all of this.

[Rei]

And of course we're gonna get it back, and without even trying hard, cause our quality and work is beyond recognised status

Not willing to provoke but my opinion about this post is : haughtiness

[Cofiliano]

None taken as provoke Rei.
Its not haughtiness if you actually lead an offical group for years(as you know we were offical back in rs4 for years as well), a group who was best group of the year few times, and you're aware of your qualities.

[Rei]

None taken as provoke Rei.
Its not haughtiness if you actually lead an offical group for years(as you know we were offical back in rs4 for years as well), a group who was best group of the year few times, and you're aware of your qualities.

yea but , let that to be decided by staff , because saying so makes you look kinda "Bad" on others eyes.

[TheGreasyChopper]

 I think it's about time people stop caring about group status and such things. The only thing that a recognized/official group is different from others is the free group vehicles and access to the drug market.

About the topic name...I'm quite confused, as Gvardia -are- recognized as one of the longest running groups on the community. I recognize them as a group that knows what they're doing and have a common sense. As to the people who keep criticizing Gvardia, especially people of a certain other group on the server, I have to say this:

It is a -fact- that when people hear "Gvardia" a certain image comes to their mind. San Fierro, Gvardia Corp, Brown Colored Vehicles and the fact that they've been around longer than 98% of your group's memberbase. When your group is mentioned, most of the people associate it with "DM", "Farming", "Trucking", "Rulebreaking". Yes, there are many good members in groups like Soprano, Luciano etc...But the general image of those groups is bad. Gvardia on the other hand have proven themselves through the years.

So before going on and criticizing a group, think about what -your- group has done and think about what leading a group like this takes.

As for Rytuklis, my condolences about your Grandmother, but I do not see what this has to do with you defending yourself. If you are inactive due to Real Life reasons, that's okay for all of us...But when you start talking about events that happened during your inactivity like you were there, then things turn a whole other way. I am yet to see you lead a group to judge you on your skills about that, but I doubt you can pull it off like Cofi and Stivi are doing with Gvardia.

TL;DR - Gvardia may have lost their scriptwise "recognized" status, but they are recognized by the players in Argonath RPG as one of the oldest and strongest groups. They do not really need a bunch of free vehicles and a free HQ.

(About the HQs...I find it weird how at one point the recognized groups lost the ability to have scripted HQs, but when Corleone lost their HQ, recognized groups suddenly could get HQs again...Leaves me wondering...)

[Cofiliano]

yea but , let that to be decided by staff , because saying so makes you look kinda "Bad" on others eyes.

Only in the eyes of those, who weren't around for all those years, or have a personal issue with us. If you/them take a look from a objective point of view, you'll understand what I'm talking about. Some of the Staff that you mention started as newbies in Gvardia, who we teached and trained, and we are proud how far they went up.

Being falsely humbled, while being criticized from irrelevant people who didn't do anything for the Community except for their own asses, isn't really the right way. And if simple providing unquestionable facts to show how wrong they are, like pointing out how we lead a group, who was offical for YEARS, makes us look bad in their eyes, that's because they can't really object to them.
And don't get me wrong Rei, this isn't directed to you.

GreasyChopper summarized it all.

[Huntsman]

I am yet to see you lead a group to judge you on your skills about that, but I doubt you can pull it off like Cofi and Stivi are doing with Gvardia.

"cough" BCSD "cough"
"cough" ARTP "cough"

[TheGreasyChopper]

"cough" BCSD "cough"
"cough" ARTP "cough"

Sorry, who? 

[RafaDK]

You posted in a public topic in a public forum which serves a purpose of discussing and expressing ones opinons in public. If you wanted the Gvardia affairs to stay for Gvardia, you shouldn't have posted here.

And you're another hypocrit.
If moaning upsets you so much, why are you doing the same exact thing on a topic regarding a suspection rule?
So stop crying about FBI matters in a topic that has nothing to do with FBI.

[Manas]

The answer for the question posed has been given by members of higher order and the family itself.
Debating more creating new matters will turn it into an argument  .