Difference between being an Admin,and being a Cop.(Forbidding criminal roleplay)

[Cofiliano]

Please, stick to the topic.

[Ivan_MC]

Johan, the thing that you mentioned about having 0 punishmants by forbiting interaction with all the players you named there, it's same like you said that you have 0 driving tickets when you have 0km driven by car. Its obvious that that will result with 0punishmants if you RP having diner with your family, admin wont come and give you a warn: 'eating with fork instead of spoon'. You should be able to feel free to go and rob someone (trucker,weed grower w/e), or to interact with cops and not to feel 'scared' from admin punishmant, the cops or workers that refuse to RP have to face a punishmant not us. That is what needs to be changed.

[Pandalink]

You should be able to feel free to go and rob someone (trucker,weed grower w/e), or to interact with cops and not to feel 'scared' from admin punishmant, the cops or workers that refuse to RP have to face a punishmant not us. That is what needs to be changed.

I think that was his point.

[Gnb_22]

It has gone on for far to long that groups have to avoid certain Role Play situation for fear of punishments which leads to the loss or inability to gain status. I am certain that 7/10 times when a criminal organisation conducts an operation whether it be Robbery or Extortion or Kidnapping or whatever it be and the victim of said crime is killed it is interrupted by admins questioning the validity of your RP. We preach one thing but then we practice another.

[Lustigkurre]

And while we are at it, would be nice if people didnt use the report command on regular basis after getting killed or even in other situations. What the hell, if I steal weed or kill a guy I can almost be sure that I'll see a text from a admin saying "hi lustig!   why did you..." And I'll have to explain the whole f**cking situation before I can continue playing. All because people get so butthurt. Get over it ffs, you got owned.

Now when keybinds are allowed I'm gonna make some nice standard explanations that I can pm to the admins 1 sec after I've upset someone.

[Devin]

And while we are at it, would be nice if people didnt use the report command on regular basis after getting killed or in even other situations. What the hell, if I steal weed or kill a guy I can almost be sure that I'll see a text from a admin saying "hi lustig!   why did you..." And I'll have to explain the whole f**cking situation before I can continue playing. All because people get so butthurt. Get over it ffs, you got owned.

Now when keybinds are allowed I'm gonna make some nice standard explanations that I can pm to the admins 1 sec after I've upset someone.

It's pretty sad to have to go down that road after every confrontation with other players, people seem to think that losing a little bit of money when they get robbed or someone roleplays stealing something from them is the end of the world and they run to admins for no reason. The most annoying thing is people crying wolf when there is nothing wrong.

Time to start punishing for false reports once again.

[Lustigkurre]

Time to start punishing for false reports once again.

Yes, that would make people think twice before reporting.

[.Matthew.]

Please yes.

[Pandalink]

Yea, that would be nice. Had an incident awhile back where a roleplay ended in the deaths of some members of an opposing mafia, we barely escape the city before we're frozen by an admin and have to sit there for over 30 minutes explaining what happened, essentially all because some kids got butthurt that they died. So while they were off playing right away after respawning, we were stuck there explaining ourselves and wasting half an hour of our night, unable to leave or /q because then we'd certainly be banned for something or other.

[Gnb_22]

It's pretty sad to have to go down that road after every confrontation with other players, people seem to think that losing a little bit of money when they get robbed or someone roleplays stealing something from them is the end of the world and they run to admins for no reason. The most annoying thing is people crying wolf when there is nothing wrong.

Time to start punishing for false reports once again.

Glad that you see things this way.   

[JoshThePenguin]

BUT .. as others have indicated is not actually the admin's fault, in fact the admin staff would be quite happy to have little to do other then deal with the hackers.

Then they shouldn't be on admin duty all the time and they should RP along, instead of joining the situation as an admin with a shiny red name.
As admins aren't aware of anything happening during the Roleplay or what has happened already at first, they shouldn't come TP'ing right in.

And I agree with Devin that the 'False report' purnishments should be used way more than they are right now.

[FrankBlaze]

Great topic with strong points, couldt have agreed more.

Criminals should be free to RP the way Mafia are supposed to (within server rules ofc).

And as i saw someone wrote, that there are way to many admins on the "legal side" and very few on the criminal side.
When i used to play in RS4 there were RP's almost every where, when i now came back again, there are almost no one that wants to RP, just to truck and earn money.

So then criminal groups thought that alright, everyone is trucking to earn money, but some criminals also want to earn some money, so well, robbing truckers started to be the solution for the criminal groups.

And of course, no one needs to die if they just comply and RP along. If they try to escape, of course we will teach that person a "lession" by giving him a beating, that's what criminals do.

Truckers get up to a 2k+ cargo, so if they are getting robbed, well, comply and say you only have 200+ on you, that is not much money considering their cargo. I would gladly pay 200+ for a good RP, i would even pay more if the Rp is good. And i have done that many times, i once got robbed, gave them 3k and i got thrown of a cliff and died, i didnt /report, i did /PM saying "Good Rp."

Many people are afraid to loose their weapons during an RP that you may get killed in, but come on, we all know the stakes of being in an RP server, shit happens. No need to /report to get an admin to resolve it. Like Cofiliano said, dont /report to try to get away from the RP.

If you have weapons for 3k on you, and the robber is asking for 500-1k well, its up to you if you want to loose 1k-1.5k if not, you will have to deal with the consequences, but like i said, no one needs to die and no one need to /report.

Just RP along without /report and you will see that most Roleplay's isnt that dangerous.