List the rules that exist in the server

[Kostas]

Shall we solve this, or shall we simply waste our time, saying things that were long at-least once in the past? And something that may have been done in the past... turn this into a fucking poll ... A proper one, which you have to answer once you try to log into the server.

[Luke]

History has also proven, that each administrator knows different rules...

If they say its okay, and you get banned, then you say who told you so, and hopefully they will clear it with you in further detail.

You will learn from your mistakes.

[Teddy]

Shall we solve this, or shall we simply waste our time, saying things that were long at-least once in the past? And something that may have been done in the past... turn this into a f**cking poll ... A proper one, which you have to answer once you try to log into the server.

Rusty already said it was in the works lol.

That was in the "history".

[Kostas]

And who determines that an administrator knows the unwritten rules better than a normal player? I've been around for 4 years, there are administrators who have been around for less, who chooses, who knows better? Did they go through a special school or something? The only way to be able to truly know who is right is by writing them down, even if you do have to alter them a little bit while doing so. So when someone gets punished for something that is allowed he can show where that is written, and the other way around, when I say that the X rule is like that, anyone can prove me wrong by just visiting that topic. Note that I have never been in such trouble through those years, this does not mean that the state is any less wrong than it is.

@Teddy I must've missed that one ... then why are we still here?

[Teddy]

And who determines that an administrator knows the unwritten rules better than a normal player?

The fact that they're an administrator and the player isn't.

While you might be right in saying some players may know more than these newer admins; one of the rules is an admins word is final. If you feel he/she is wrong; comply with their direction and contact management. Do not contest or fight them on it.

[Kostas]

The fact that they're an administrator and the player isn't.

While you might be right in saying some players may know more than these newer admins; one of the rules is an admins word is final. If you feel he/she is wrong; comply with their direction and contact management. Do not contest or fight them on it.

No offence, but another unwritten rule.
About the comply with their direction... I guess it ain't that easy, but anyway.
About reporting them, that should be something extremely rare.

Anyway if that list is on the work, then I have nothing to argue about over here. Cheers.

EDIT: I am not claiming that it has to solely do with time. It was simply the easiest way to prove my point. Certain players know the rules better than many old and new administrators, I am not such a player though.

[Teddy]

No offence, but another unwritten rule.
About the comply with their direction... I guess it ain't that easy, but anyway.
About reporting them, that should be something extremely rare.

Anyway if that list is on the work, then I have nothing to argue about over here. Cheers.

Not unwritten. At least I don't think... maybe... whatever; but it's something HQ has reiterated dozens of times over the last few years.

How can it not be that easy to comply with directions? It's super fuckin simple. If you're told to not do something; don't do it.
Reporting should be rare; but it actually isn't.

[Kostas]

If you're told to not do something; don't do it.

That's why it ain't easy. I'm a fucking rebel.
On a serious note though, doing something simply because you were told... What is this? Dictatorship. I hope that this list helps to prevent that, nobody has to do anything because he was told to by anyone, unless he wants to, due to the gun aimed at his head. I hope that you get my last point.

[Sandi]

Uuuum hello ? A world of its own ?

[Cyril]

doing something simply because you were told... What is this? Dictatorship.

It's called following authority.
Same way you follow what you parents are telling you to do or not do.

If you want to play the rebel, fine, but you will be treated as one.

[Teddy]

That's why it ain't easy. I'm a f**cking rebel.
On a serious note though, doing something simply because you were told... What is this? Dictatorship. I hope that this list helps to prevent that, nobody has to do anything because he was told to by anyone, unless he wants to, due to the gun aimed at his head. I hope that you get my last point.

Yes. You do not have a right to play here. It's a privilege. We have no legal obligation in any country to permit anyone to play. We legally can exclude anyone with or without any given reason. You listen to our administrators; or you get out. It's pretty simple really.

[Kaze]

After the last couple of topic (including the one I made myself) the verdict is that the HQ will forever be superior to the community. We just need to let it go.. nothing is gonna change.

Think before you say/do something ingame, that's the only option we are given to keep ourselves  out of trouble.

Please lock this. Too much drama my paracetamol isn't effective anymore.

[Kostas]

If you want to play the rebel, fine, but you will be treated as one.

It was clear that, that part was a joke.


And shit I love both responses. Anyway, this is only the start of a new argument, the rule list is being created, and that's the only worth mentioning outcome. I'd love to see the way of thinking of the community itself to change, if I get such responses, after peaceful messages... meh anyway. I shall obey your command ser mister admen.

[Rusty]

History has also proven, that each administrator knows different rules...

Quite a few of us are from different era's in Argonath (myself 2008) where we were taught different than what some are taught now.  If we ever manage to work up a definite list of rules that clear out everything that is of importance we'll make sure every current staff member is working in stride and not out of sync.