Escaped Suspection rule - Revoked

[Primus]

So,a officer can call for backup and suspects can't?

You either keep the both parts balanced instead of this.

You can call the backup to escape, like your family member comes and pick you up in a car. Coming from nowhere and start shooting is plain death-matching and if they were involved in the RP only then they can aid you in shootout too.

[Brian]

A criminal can ask for backup but your 'friends' can't just go around shooting at cops because they're your friends, there should be clear signs of aiding them and making sure the cops know that they're with them and will fight if this is needed.

[Bruce.]

So,a officer can call for backup and suspects can't?

You either keep the both parts balanced instead of this.

Ok then let's just remove the RPG and put a TDM instead...it would fit better the way you're thinking....let's also map some DM areas so we can fight....

[Devin]

There's no pleasing some of you whilst some others appreciate changes made.

[Luke]

There's no pleasing some of you whilst some others appreciate changes made.

Welcome to the real world, everyone will find an excuse to moan about anything.

[Arslan]

Aiding by offering a ride/car is allowed. If they come out of nowhere and start shooting, it is still deathmatching. This hasn't changed.

Also, just to make this more clear. As far as I know this is also NOT allowed if cops are present on scene. If cops are chasing you while your're on foot and they're right behind you (visible distance) then your friends can't come out of the blue with a car and aid you. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[LoHi]

Also, just to make this more clear. As far as I know this is also NOT allowed if cops are present on scene. If cops are chasing you while your're on foot and they're right behind you (visible distance) then your friends can't come out of the blue with a car and aid you. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't think this is correct. Multiple times I've been called by my friends asking for help, and proceeded to give them a lift, even though the police were within the view distance. Of course, picking someone up mid-shootout is a good way to get your car blown up...

[CharlieKasper]

Also, just to make this more clear. As far as I know this is also NOT allowed if cops are present on scene. If cops are chasing you while your're on foot and they're right behind you (visible distance) then your friends can't come out of the blue with a car and aid you. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Civilians can aid that way even if cops are a meter away shooting at the suspect.

[Arslan]

Civilians can aid that way even if cops are a meter away shooting at the suspect.

All right. I guess that only applies when a suspect is barricaded, you can't enter to help him if police have arrived?

[Spike.]

Civilians can aid that way even if cops are a meter away shooting at the suspect.

Not with out a RP background.

For the record a RP background is not being in the same crime family, I have encountered multiple people aiding suspects for literally no RP reason, just come out of the blue and aid them.

[Spike.]

- Never mind sorry for double post-

[Acika]

The rule always was that you can't shoot cops unless you are suspected, but you can aid them in a vehicle, inside the same one or following with the other one so you could pick them up in case their car blows up (that's why it's called backup)

I'm speaking from my experience:
The problem comes when cops, knowing that, abuse it and often refuse to suspect people who are aiding. When that happens people who are not suspected get shot (since they are in the same vehicle) and considering you are fine to protect yourself when underattack they will shoot back.
That's when admin comes and bans a player that's aiding instead of the cops who are abusing the knowledge to their advantage and refusing to suspect the aider. If cops didnt abuse in the first place, the aider wouldn't have any problem.

The rule that's now being revoked is a made up rule that took place last year. It should have not been here in the first place.

[CharlieKasper]

Not with out a RP background.

For the record a RP background is not being in the same crime family, I have encountered multiple people aiding suspects for literally no RP reason, just come out of the blue and aid them.

Edit: Nope, a random guy can help a random suspect out of the blue by driving him away from the cops (but of course, not shoot.)

[Spike.]

Edit: Nope, a random guy can help a random suspect out of the blue by driving him away from the cops (but of course, not shoot.)

Oh I see.

[[Rstar]Peter]

The problem comes when cops, knowing that, abuse it and often refuse to suspect people who are aiding. When that happens people who are not suspected get shot (since they are in the same vehicle) and considering you are fine to protect yourself when underattack they will shoot back.

The current situation that you're talking about, has nothing to do with "Escaped suspection rule".
In this case, if you're in the same vehicle as your suspected friend, and you're being shot, you've the right to shoot back (DB too).
But remember that you're supposed to be in that scene before your friend get suspected(auto suspects such as killing or gets suspected by /su). So you can not come from nowhere and shoot at the cops.