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[Murt]

Server bans that have been issued on players are up to the HQ for each respective community within Argonath to deal with and not by players. Just because some believe that a person deserves an unban after such a long time doesn't mean the player should be unbanned.

A player is always banned for a reason or reasons... Some cases are easy to handle with as they're just a one time thing, but some are trickier to handle with if it regards recurrences or simply other matters. Some cases just requires one HQ member's judgement and some requires everyone's attention. Therefore, if it requires everyone's attention it is taken up for discussion. When it is done a unanimous decision has been made.

As for Acika's ban that was discussed prior in the topic that got locked, no wonder why it got locked.

[Kaze]

I think it's bullshit for any ban to go on longer than 6 months maybe the HQ could sort this ban system out after their work on RS5. I am very impressed so far with the HQ and I believe if they keep on doing what they are doing we could potentially be forced to change the server slot to like 250 players!

My idea for the ban system would be this.
/kick = 15 mins ban from server
/tempban = 1-5 days ban from server (issued after either 2 kicks or 2 warnings in the same day)
/ban = Atleast 2 weeks, maximum 6 months (depending on the ban ofc)

/tempban is there to give the player a pre-caution to stop doing what they are doing as they may face up to 6 months out if they repeat the offence or even continue to rulebreak. This would work effectively because it would keep the players on their toes, always watching their behaviour to avoid a 1-5 day ban. They will monitor their actions to even avoid the kick!

For this ban system to work, HQ need to release a new set of rules for the public to read. In addition, the HQ itself need to agree to disagree on what is bannable and what isn't. One admin's dealing with carjacking might be a /tempban whereas one might be a kick.

[LoHi]

Maybe players should learn from the first ban, instead of getting banned dozens of times...

[jovanca]

I think it's bullshit for any ban to go on longer than 6 months maybe the HQ could sort this ban system out after their work on RS5. I am very impressed so far with the HQ and I believe if they keep on doing what they are doing we could potentially be forced to change the server slot to like 250 players!

My idea for the ban system would be this.
/kick = 15 mins ban from server
/tempban = 1-5 days ban from server (issued after either 2 kicks or 2 warnings in the same day)
/ban = Atleast 2 weeks, maximum 6 months (depending on the ban ofc)

/tempban is there to give the player a pre-caution to stop doing what they are doing as they may face up to 6 months out if they repeat the offence or even continue to rulebreak. This would work effectively because it would keep the players on their toes, always watching their behaviour to avoid a 1-5 day ban. They will monitor their actions to even avoid the kick!

For this ban system to work, HQ need to release a new set of rules for the public to read. In addition, the HQ itself need to agree to disagree on what is bannable and what isn't. One admin's dealing with carjacking might be a /tempban whereas one might be a kick.

+1

[Rusty]

I think it's bullshit for any ban to go on longer than 6 months maybe the HQ could sort this ban system out after their work on RS5.

Length we ban people for won't change, those that end up banned for months have earned it by showing they cannot behave and play by the rules.  Unlike RS4 where people got dozen's of chances (quite a few people we could name), RS5 we decided to move away from that.

As for any 'idea's to banning that'll be something HQ discuss in private when we see the need to discuss it.  Regards to changes in the server rules, don't worry I've made some significant changes to include some of these 'made-up' rules that float around, in progress of discussing it out and see what we should keep/edit or remove once we come to a agreement they'll be changed in-game and on the forum.

Staff punish at their own discretion we don't really need a topic dedicated to 'punishments for different rulebreaks' if they see that the player's actions warrant a warning or a ban then they'll hand it out.

[RizzE.]

I think it's bullshit for any ban to go on longer than 6 months maybe the HQ could sort this ban system out after their work on RS5. I am very impressed so far with the HQ and I believe if they keep on doing what they are doing we could potentially be forced to change the server slot to like 250 players!

My idea for the ban system would be this.
/kick = 15 mins ban from server
/tempban = 1-5 days ban from server (issued after either 2 kicks or 2 warnings in the same day)
/ban = Atleast 2 weeks, maximum 6 months (depending on the ban ofc)

/tempban is there to give the player a pre-caution to stop doing what they are doing as they may face up to 6 months out if they repeat the offence or even continue to rulebreak. This would work effectively because it would keep the players on their toes, always watching their behaviour to avoid a 1-5 day ban. They will monitor their actions to even avoid the kick!

For this ban system to work, HQ need to release a new set of rules for the public to read. In addition, the HQ itself need to agree to disagree on what is bannable and what isn't. One admin's dealing with carjacking might be a /tempban whereas one might be a kick.

lol what about players that keeps getting banned over and over for obvious reasons? I think Argonath is to nice on those.

[Acika]

I think that you're completely right Rusty. Let the banevaders play, troll and DDoS the server.

Since i'm mentioned a few times in these topics, it's fine that i say a few words.

Permament ban is just yours(HQs) revenge because of my opposition towards the system.

Let's now go through some of my bans from current HQ members and have a good laugh together.

Murt - banned me cause i said "booya" when i blew up cops heli (i was a suspect) - (Kojak later dismissed the ban)
CBFasi - banned me cause i flew over LVAP (Air Div HQ) as suspect. I just dont know where am i supposed to take off and land.
Cyril (if i recall correctly) banned me cause i, in mid-fight, went to the ammu to buy more ammo cause i was out of it and returned back to the rp i was in from the start.
Devin - there was a fight going on and a guy who was a hacker (Corleone member) started running towards LSPD, i followed to finish the job. Another admin was previously informed and spectated from the start, but suddenly Devin logged in and decided to ban me for DM after spending just 30seconds on the server.
Leon - last ban - i got banned cause i made a bridge from interior to interior, them claiming it's used for DM while actually it never got used before by anyone for anything cause it wasn't even finished.

As we can see my bans are nothing special, i never did anything wrong to be made such a big deal of, it's just some of their personal problems with me and they will seek for any opportunity and excuse to ban me. The bans were usually occurring at the specific time - after i beat the hell out of Corleone or Cops, by the motto: "If you can't beat him, ban him"

On the other hand it's completely normal to see a guy who's leading Corleone, who is an admin (Abraham) to flame and insult the shit out of community's member - calling him a faggot and what not. It's normal to see current leaders going around topics with clear intentions to only provoke and insult others. It's normal to extinct veterans of the community who have contributed way more to this community than you all did together (Cofi named them on one topic).

I'm very sorry if you can't stand the fact that someone is more capable and smarter than you. Better start getting used to it if you already didn't.

For a change i hope that you will read this and take it like men and not to remove the post, issue a forum punishment and lock the topic.

[Pedro.]

Acika, don't take me in a rude way but I loved when you
"Hey Ramo, we got to talk"
"/me takes out combat shotgun and shoots"

[TheGreasyChopper]

To hell with Acika, unban Salmonella already

[Acika]

Acika, don't take me in a rude way but I loved when you
"Hey Ramo, we got to talk"
"/me takes out combat shotgun and shoots"

You either have a very bad memory or you're really ignorant.

His group was attacking Luciano the whole day.
When i joined i called Ramo on the phone, told him i was coming and why, informing him about everything. 10 minutes later i found him, surrounded him and started talking. From the start he didnt pay much attention to me, refusing to rp, he was calling admins setting up a ban. Few moments later i got carkilled by his group member (Lil_Mama, who later apologized, but who cares now, Acika is banned, that's whats important ) and then we opened fire.

[Pedro.]

You either have a very bad memory or you're really ignorant.

His group was attacking Luciano the whole day.
When i joined i called Ramo on the phone, told him i was coming and why, informing him about everything. 10 minutes later i found him, surrounded him and started talking. From the start he didnt pay much attention to me, refusing to rp, he was calling admins setting up a ban. Few moments later i got carkilled by his group member (Lil_Mama, who later apologized, but who cares now) and then we opened fire.

Yeah man I'm ignorant sorry, and I don't really have a bad memory at all, I'm talking about the chatlogs I've seen from your unban request at that time.

[TheGreasyChopper]

You either have a very bad memory or you're really ignorant.

His group was attacking Luciano the whole day.
When i joined i called Ramo on the phone, told him i was coming and why, informing him about everything. 10 minutes later i found him, surrounded him and started talking. From the start he didnt pay much attention to me, refusing to rp, he was calling admins setting up a ban. Few moments later i got carkilled by his group member (Lil_Mama, who later apologized, but who cares now) and then we opened fire.

This ain't your unban request, what's the point of all this?

[Acika]

This ain't your unban request, what's the point of all this?

This aint any of your concern, what's the point of you in here ?

PS: I was blamed for something i didnt do, so i responded.

If you want attention, open up another topic.

[Acika]

Yeah man I'm ignorant sorry, and I don't really have a bad memory at all, I'm talking about the chatlogs I've seen from your unban request at that time.

Did you see in chatlogs that i got carkilled ? Did you see in logs that i previously had a conversation over the phone with Ramo ? No, you didnt, because they post what goes in their favor.

You talk what other tell you to and what you would like to believe into,

[TheGreasyChopper]

This aint any of your concern, what's the point of you in here ?

I'm a part of the community and have earned my place in it via proper behavior trough the years, I believe I can say what I want to say when I want to say.

Also, don't double post.