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Reply #15 on: May 04, 2015, 01:19:37 pm
So is it against the rules to tow your truck to get to places faster?

Seems like everybody is doing it and nobody's punishing them.

Technically it is not, but there will need to be something added such as the suggested increased fuel consumption ..

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Reply #16 on: May 04, 2015, 01:21:46 pm
Please define "could". In what context would that be?
The way I see it, towing a car you're not able to access by scripts (e.g. it's locked) is not abuse because you're not breaking the first script. You are not unlocking the car, you are moving a locked car. It's really no different than pushing locked cars away with another car, and that's isn't considered script abuse, is it? I cannot see this as scripts abuse, but rather as "emergent gameplay".

Not to mention the RP context that this functionality can be used in...
Person A owes Person B money. Person A doesn't want to pay. Person B takes a towtruck and forcefully relocates Person A's locked car as compensation until Person A pays Person B back his money.
Of course, Person A can just log off and then log back in to re-spawn the car, but that would actually be script abuse by definition, as he's logging off not to quit, but to utilise the car re-spawn script to get his car back.

If done under RP then I see no issue, its the non-rp methods that are being done, that is why its a could... not will.. it depends on the situation and that is where administrators can intervene if it is believed to be done for non-rp reasons.

I do understand there are very valid reason to have a vehicle towed, but that has to be weighed up against those that are mearly using this feature to troll others.

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Reply #17 on: May 04, 2015, 01:29:12 pm
Maybe the scripters could develop a script where you cannot tow:

• Locked cars
• Recent used cars
• Group cars
• Government cars (police, paramedic, fire department)

And that only mechanics can tow those cars if the owner wants them to.



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Reply #18 on: May 04, 2015, 01:40:45 pm
Maybe the scripters could develop a script where you cannot tow:

• Locked cars
• Recent used cars
• Group cars
• Government cars (police, paramedic, fire department)

And that only mechanics can tow those cars if the owner wants them to.

Some would actually help by towing locked/cop vehicles back to the garage.
Its not really hard determining whether what you're doing is to disrupt other players/groups or not.

And I support restricting it to mechanics, plus restricting trucking to civilians only.

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This is just my personal opinion, SOME may be allowed, im still not sure whats allowed and whats not. Read page 1
Towing a cop car on a traffic stop is stupid and should be script abuse.
Towing cop vehicles out of the garage for no reason should also be not allowed, why? Disrupting gameplay
Towing other players/groups vehicles away to troll them shouldn't be allowed. Disrupting game-play
Towing vehicles to block roads, or towing a PLANE in the city, should be forbidden. Disrupting gameplay



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Reply #19 on: May 04, 2015, 01:43:31 pm
and tow what then? state owned cars?

i'm against the trolls, i didnt even try the towtruck yet nor tho i care to use it, but in some cases that i remember of, such as over 10 cops comming with different vehicles (swat, sapd, fbi w/e) comming to ganton and leaving half of the cars, we really needed towtruck.


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Reply #20 on: May 04, 2015, 01:47:44 pm
Its not really hard determining whether what you're doing is to disrupt other players/groups or not.



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Reply #21 on: May 04, 2015, 02:26:27 pm
I am pleased this topic was created, just yesterday during a warrant execution some funny ass troll thought it would be funny to tow an FBI Rancher.



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Reply #22 on: May 04, 2015, 05:03:15 pm
This is why I think tow trucking should be limited to mechanics only! Easier for administration to spot rulebreaker and make mechanics more attractive.



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Reply #23 on: May 04, 2015, 05:38:58 pm
@Adam 
There isn't really a problem with towing a plane, it's no different to just driving the plane through the streets with the exception that the plane can't explode, which is actually a lot better.

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Reply #24 on: May 04, 2015, 06:05:53 pm
This is honestly the reason we can't have nice things



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Reply #25 on: May 04, 2015, 06:09:29 pm
Tow truck should be mechanic job only unless you buy your own tow truck.

It should be acceptable to return general government vehicles that have been abandoned. In terms of our own vehicles, park them normally and you wouldn't be a victim of the impound.

Your car has been impounded? /call 911

Trying to figure out some sort of script to stop the abusing though.. I'll post again shortly.




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Reply #26 on: May 04, 2015, 06:15:03 pm
The thing is.... we shouldn't need to limit things... we shouldn't need to have these warnings. People should stop acting like fucking idiots and realize this is a RP server or get out. People should be able to RP with self-constraint and discipline.



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Reply #27 on: May 04, 2015, 06:16:02 pm
Tow truck should be mechanic job only unless you buy your own tow truck.

It should be acceptable to return general government vehicles that have been abandoned. In terms of our own vehicles, park them normally and you wouldn't be a victim of the impound.

Your car has been impounded? /call 911

Trying to figure out some sort of script to stop the abusing though.. I'll post again shortly.


There shouldn't be need for scripts or admins needed to just act properly on a role play server. It's common sense not to go around /tow'ing anything or everything, if people can roleplay it then there's no issue, you can tow what ever you want.



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Reply #28 on: May 04, 2015, 07:39:33 pm
The thing is.... we shouldn't need to limit things... we shouldn't need to have these warnings. People should stop acting like f**cking idiots and realize this is a RP server or get out. People should be able to RP with self-constraint and discipline.
That's not realistic though, absolutely any place that has a system of rules will also have those that will break them, whether it be accidentally or intentionally.
There's a reason every country has police, basically.

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Reply #29 on: May 04, 2015, 08:01:03 pm
That's not realistic though, absolutely any place that has a system of rules will also have those that will break them, whether it be accidentally or intentionally.
There's a reason every country has police, basically.

Without any names.... there are servers which don't have limitations in scripts (e.g police scripts) but have RP regulations that people follow and actually conform to.

Not unrealistic. Just not in Argonath apparently because we're to lenient



 


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