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Reply #30 on: May 04, 2015, 08:37:21 pm
The thing is.... we shouldn't need to limit things... we shouldn't need to have these warnings. People should stop acting like f**cking idiots and realize this is a RP server or get out. People should be able to RP with self-constraint and discipline.
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Reply #31 on: May 04, 2015, 09:33:10 pm
maybe people act like that because they now it's easy to get away with since they feel the server is more like a freeroamservee then rpserver

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Reply #32 on: May 04, 2015, 10:03:08 pm
Without any names.... there are servers which don't have limitations in scripts (e.g police scripts) but have RP regulations that people follow and actually conform to.

Not unrealistic. Just not in Argonath apparently because we're to lenient
That doesn't make sense, you say that there are servers where people just follow the rules no problem but then attribute their success to being strict against rulebreakers.
So that server has rulebreakers, which means it must have "these warnings" just the same.

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Reply #33 on: May 04, 2015, 11:14:55 pm
Everything is abuse these days.

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Reply #34 on: May 04, 2015, 11:29:58 pm
I like how we have our own variation of murphy's law  :)



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Reply #35 on: May 05, 2015, 12:18:39 am
That doesn't make sense, you say that there are servers where people just follow the rules no problem but then attribute their success to being strict against rulebreakers.
So that server has rulebreakers, which means it must have "these warnings" just the same.

It doesn't from what I've seen. It also doesn't have idiots.

As I've said however, I've accepted that isn't Argonath and we need to have limits beyond belief and warnings every other day for common sense things.



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Reply #36 on: May 05, 2015, 12:46:00 am
It also doesn't have idiots.

probs because of their registrationsystem

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Reply #37 on: May 05, 2015, 01:00:03 am
probs because of their registrationsystem

indeed :)



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Reply #38 on: May 05, 2015, 01:42:26 am
Valid thought ...
If you are using a towtruck to move a vehicle you do not have the ability to move via driving, that COULD be considered script abuse, using features in the script to do something that script otherwise stops you from doing.

You can be BANNED for script abuse... so towing a cop car, a fbi car, a locked car CAN see you banned if the admin wishes it...

Good Sir,

Malicious trolls will be malicious trolls.

However...

Thought is invalid as towing is a method of taking vehicles which generally you can not drive...
If people are towing vehicles they can easily drive...

If the Admin wishes for a ban, it'll be done. But there shouldn't be leniency towards banning players if the thought you mentioned is to be used as an excuse as there's a lot of controversy around it.

If a federal rancher is parked in the middle of nowhere, and a person decides to leave it at LSPD instead of FBI HQ, then that's not a big deal.

 If the FBI wants to use a HQ that has little to no security of their vehicles in general (as in, you can just drive to where the vehicles are spawned instead of accessing a gate), then it's their issue. They should know that there are criminal entities that would like to remove the whole of the FBI from the map and they should accept that.

Simple rule can be implemented:
- You must role-play attaching a vehicle to your tow-truck and you can not simply just instant tow a vehicle.

If someone comes and tows a cop car away to help his friend escape, then it makes perfect sense.

If someone goes to LSPD Garage and tows out all the vehicles, then it's clear idiocy as how would a civilian actually enter LSPD parking lot unless they're on duty? If the script works so that you must be on Police duty, then it'd be best.

The police can go after tow truckers if it's apparent they are doing illegal towing.

Rules should not be used to give a non sensible advantage.
If leadership, admins, wish to begin the implementation of role play guidelines or rules, then it'd be better.

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Reply #39 on: May 05, 2015, 09:15:20 am
If a federal rancher is parked in the middle of nowhere, and a person decides to leave it at LSPD instead of FBI HQ, then that's not a big deal.

Okay so we have to run to LSPD or emergency situations or choose not to exit our vehicle because it might get towed away when we're inside a PD or building. Good point sir.

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If the FBI wants to use a HQ that has little to no security of their vehicles in general (as in, you can just drive to where the vehicles are spawned instead of accessing a gate), then it's their issue. They should know that there are criminal entities that would like to remove the whole of the FBI from the map and they should accept that.

First of, not our choice. Second, we do have a gate at LVHQ but it simply doesn't even work. We have no choice in the matter whatsoever.



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Reply #40 on: May 05, 2015, 10:39:12 am
Without any names.... there are servers which don't have limitations in scripts (e.g police scripts) but have RP regulations that people follow and actually conform to.

Not unrealistic. Just not in Argonath apparently because we're to lenient
Because these servers have clear rules for IC and O.O.C. which the people adapted to over time, making it easier for new players to follow.
Argonath chooses for 'no restrictions' and this is what you get. :)

The registration system can be copied and changed to own words lol

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Reply #41 on: May 05, 2015, 10:43:29 am
Just enter the car you want to tow and check if it belongs to a group/organisation, then call/sms a member of that group and ask if it's being used or not.. If not you can tow it away using RP, and if it's being used you just park it at the side of the road or at a propper parking spot.. I really can't see the problem, and yes abusers should be punished.



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Reply #42 on: May 05, 2015, 11:40:55 am
Okay so we have to run to LSPD or emergency situations or choose not to exit our vehicle because it might get towed away when we're inside a PD or building. Good point sir.

Leave Siren on. Anyone who's seen towing a vehicle with siren on should be arrested.
I've seen many FBI cruisers just abandoned and if Agents are not able to look after them, don't blame towtruckers for doing law enforcement a favour.

First of, not our choice. Second, we do have a gate at LVHQ but it simply doesn't even work. We have no choice in the matter whatsoever.

File a bug report and wait, we have active or willing scripters now so it shouldn't be long.

I speak of LS FBI HQ. No Gates and easily accessible... My my.. .you even have a helicopter spawning at the back which I thought was just plane bizarre and thought it'd be better suited to a heli pad or airport.

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Reply #43 on: May 05, 2015, 12:33:09 pm
Leave Siren on.

> enter building
> siren gone



Simple, don't tow away FBI cars.



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Reply #44 on: May 05, 2015, 12:38:33 pm
Whatever you which, just don't call us (Tow truck operators) next time when we have to tow something for you.



 


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