Encountering FBI as a suspect

[Kaze]

I have been a victim of these countless of times and it's time I say something about it.

I've been shot at by FBI agents when they are white (the blip and name) and its not right. AFAIK, all law enforcement people should reveal their badge prior to taking fire at suspects. Personally, this is classed as DM and should be dealt with severely as any other case. It can easily escalate because in theory you've killed FBI agent and all those bullshit lawsuits come into play etc etc

What is your take on this?

I'd like it if the HQ orders the FBI to reveal their badge (/sb?) before pursuing/firing a suspect.

[Brian]

We've just had a chat about this with some other admins, in my opinion if a FBI member is attacked himself, he can return fire without showing badge.
If he is the one that is going to go in offense, then he should show badge first, failing to do so will be classed as DM by me.

[Kaze]

We've just had a chat about this with some other admins, in my opinion if a FBI member is attacked himself, he can return fire without showing badge.
If he is the one that is going to go in offense, then he should show badge first, failing to do so will be classed as DM by me.

That makes perfect sense to me. It is obvious that if a FBI agent is a victim then no doubt return fire. This needs to be something official from the HQ as you may consider it DM but another admin may not.

[Kostas]

HAve never thought about this in the past ... /sb should not be enough either though... So I could just tap my patch, before helping another biker...

[Brian]

HAve never thought about this in the past ... /sb should not be enough either though... So I could just tap my patch, before helping another biker...

I honestly don't think that an FBI member should just go around for suspects then /sb and shoot them, at least some role-play should be involved, but I can not force them myself to do that, that has to come from FBI command staff.

[Kaze]

HAve never thought about this in the past ... /sb should not be enough either though... So I could just tap my patch, before helping another biker...

From my understanding, you want FBI agents to constantly be blue unless it's a serious scenario that they need to be UC (white)?

I can not force them myself to do that, that has to come from FBI command staff.

That's not a problem, the HQ have the power to make this change for obvious reasons..

[Kostas]

Not completely true... Since this was brought up, the FBI command staff and the administration (which are extremely close), should settle this, and make it known to the public. Just like any criminal has to make obvious his association with another one, same way should the FBI make it obvious, we cant keep our eyes on each white name, to make sure it doesn't turn blue. Having said that.
"/s FBI Agent Evans. Lower your weapons!" along with /sb, should do the trick.

@Kaze. No, I am saying that they have to actually RPly make it clear, who they are, and why they are engaging, read what I said above.

[Dean.]

hi


/report

or

http://fbi.argonathrpg.com/index.php?board=5.0


bye

[Kaze]

"/s FBI Agent Evans. Lower your weapons!" along with /sb, should do the trick.

That does sound reasonable but can easily be abused. Copy pasta the /s and /sb in a matter of seconds and start firing.

<insert bs here>

I have used the /report function countless of times and the agent got off with a warning and I believe that is not enough. It's a simple rule to be implemented and I don't understand why are you trying to challenge it. It is classed as blatant DM so you're tryna promote DM then?

[Dean.]

How am I promoting Deathmatching by telling you to report it. If someone does engage you with a white name they're breaking the rules which means you're able to report them.

http://fbi.argonathrpg.com/index.php?board=5.0

[Kaze]

How am I promoting Deathmatching by telling you to report it. If someone does engage you with a white name they're breaking the rules which means you're able to report them.

http://fbi.argonathrpg.com/index.php?board=5.0

From your initial post, you are clearly looking ignorant thus giving everyone the impression that it is okay to do that.

Anyway..

[Dean.]

There hasn't been a single official Internal Affairs complaint from a civil in over 2 years. The last report was actually about an agent breaching into a building and killing a suspect without having his badge turned on. That agent received disciplinary action. Why? Because he took a screenshot and filed a complaint.

Nothing happens if you don't inform Command Staff. We take the matter seriously as long as you bring the matter to us and not complain about it to others and then we get to hear it via-via.

PM us your concerns, report your complaints. That's how we resolve things and work towards a better future together.


Thank you.

[Huntsman]

From your initial post, you are clearly looking ignorant thus giving everyone the impression that it is okay to do that.

Anyway..

No, what he is telling you to do that instead of complaining and whining here you should direct such concerns in the boards that are exclusively deticated for reporting such FBI violations. Yet you choose to argue and moan instead.

Anyhow, I call BS. I am yet to see a single agent engaging a suspect or performing FBI related work without having his badge shown.

[Kostas]

Got to admit that I doubt I've ever seen an FBI agent, engaging without showing his badge, either way, if this matter was clear before this topic was even made, then I see no reason to keep on talking.

[Devin]

Shit happens, it's a game. Everyone fucks up sooner or later.