Roleplay factions

[jovanca]

Thats exactly what my point is kostas. By having those new players joining the veteran groups, they would rather learn how to roleplay and have fun roleplaying then just going around looking for their next victim to kill

[Marcel]

As JDC used to say: lead by example!

[Tiny]

Well to be honest, the community of Argonath is like a micrography of Greek society, nothing is going the right way because of peoples' cast of mind. Everyone shares his opinion, saying what is the right thing to do, but nobody does it actually, and if someone tries to do it, boom - he gets none or minimum support. Unless...

This is something normal to happen from my point of view, but someone has to stand up and be ready to take all the bullshit in order to make this work. Open a new group (not a mafia, indeed) and fill a gap the server has. If we're missing street gangs, open one. Keep it alive and be an example for other groups, they will soon start improving in order to reach your success, and suddenly you will see everyone improving. All these (maybe) small improvements together will make the difference.

It's time to think I'm the annoying guy who claims he doesn't make mistakes and is always perfect - which means I'm gonna say for once more that the 'project' I and some other experienced members of the community started months ago - 18th Street Barrio, was this group the server needed. The group was clearly created to increase the street gang roleplay which was lacking. We got more than enough bullcrap, but still, the support we got from the proper people got us running for more than we were able to because of real life issues.

If you are active enough to dedicate the needed time to open a group (with only intention to increase roleplay and have fun) then just go on and do it. I'll be more than glad to give a helping hand to anybody does the above, in any way I can.

I'm sure there are lots of people who have brilliant mentality in this community, it's just a matter of when those people will work together to get the right things done.

[Manoni]

I'm sorry, what was the last time you were in game?

[Tiny]

I'm sorry, what was the last time you were in game?

I'm sorry for having less free time than I used to, that's exactly why I said this:

If you are active enough to dedicate the needed time to open a group (with only intention to increase roleplay and have fun) then just go on and do it. I'll be more than glad to give a helping hand to anybody does the above, in any way I can.

[jovanca]

As JDC used to say: lead by example!

Well im not sure how often you and people in general check GSF topic, or if you have seen our rules, but we try being strict and yet to give a chance to everyone who an atleast understant and talk BASIC english, and wants to learn. The thing is, people are not really interested in learning if someone offers them a high rank in their family as soon as they first log in.

And Tiny. I completly agree with you. As you can see GSF is still around. Despite the hard times group is having we're still trying our best to stay around.

18th was indeed a great project which healed roleplay on argonath but sadly it didnt last  longer. Unfortunately, right now, GSF is the only street gang around and even though we are trying our best to entertain people and promote roleplaying, its not working out well as, to people here, shooting someone down obvioisly seems to be far more interesting

[Kostas]

Thing is... that, while. Trying to "lead by example". I feel like I started actually hating almost every kind of shootout, reasonable and unreasonable... Every time, me or AoD is forced into one, I get kind of frustrated... Anyway. Leading by example is a good start. But we've been saying it for years. Things won't change. Cheers.

[Tiny]

Things won't change.

People won't try to change things*...

...unless you try.

[AK47]

if you want to change something, don't wait around for something to happend, do it yourself! in the early RS5 i started a srs-rp faction (african-american streetgang) which actually turned out pretty good, started out with 3 close friends then people started to come to us since we were intresting, something different and before we knew it we got recognized, gained more members then in a matter of weeks we actually got official! then of course my real life got in the way and we went inactive and we closed down the group.

the point is, if you want something knew and different, just go ingame and do it yourself and you will notice that there is a few people on the server that will share the same ideas as yourself and you can do big things together

[AhmadLov]

I agree with jovanca. He reminds me of the past, I used to RolePlay using a bat, and sometimes nothing, and Now i can't Go anywere without my deagle... we need to do something about it, seriously,  Killing isn't everything, therefor not a way to END every RolePlay.

[Kaze]

Gangs > Mafia

If I didn't join Araatus I would of opened an Irish gang but now I am now dedicated to Araatus. If any veterans wish to open a group like the old days, I'll be more than happy to help.

[jovanca]

To be honest i didnt open this topic for 'gang or family' discussion. I opened it with hope that people(especially new comers) might actually realise that not everything is about going around and blasting people. Any faction roleplayed well and realistically is a good faction. The thing is that the only good mafia faction these days is (in my opinion) Gvardia (Corleone is going through a rough period it seems, but still is obviously way better than most of the mafia groups on the server).

I have seen topics like this one and there is always the same quote - lead by example. After so much time it still does not seem to be working so how about we try with adding a few simple rules this time and see how it works?

Edit: no offense to any other mafia that i have not mentioned. Only mentioned those who i had chance of roleplaying with.

[Hamza_Khan]

One of the main problem is here that people always want to be a leader, no matter what who are they, hows their RP skills if they know a bit about Roleplay (which isn't enough to open a group) they go on and opens a group no matter hows their group is and members are, this is the thing which we have to stop but the solution isn't out there yet, new families must react seriously on rules and don't tolerate that, Example : Player A who happens to be a member of a Mafia/gang breaks a server / Family rule and got away with it, I mean the leaders of the group doesn't  take that seriously or any action against him, So he will obviously go and would do it again as he thinks that it isn't that much important, it will create the chaos for the player and family. But in that same situation players goes and does a rule breaking act, whether server's or group's and the leader does take action against him or even gives him a verbal warning, So what would it do? It will surely prevent him doing that act again as he thinks that it may cost him or his family reputation in the server. One of the basic problem here is strictness of the families even on their own rules.

[ssaammee]

No one seems to mention character development. Which I can understand ain't the easiet and most entertaining thing to accomplish here on Argo. But only because your parents were killed doesn't necessarily mean you turn into a robot, with one goal to conquer the world.

Unfortunately the mafia rp is becoming very humdrum. (The only thing I really can relate to)

- Gather the troops.
- /id the 'enemies'
-  Find the lamest, most far-fetched excuse to encounter with them, obviously AnA'd.

Which is the main reason why I've stared roleplaying a paramedic more often and consistent. Sadly no one is getting injured. 
Doing this to try and have some fun on my leisure time without a Combat shotgun.

But the tiniest thing I'd hope to see the majority improve, is not roleplaying a killing machine. Who has no trouble pulling out a .44 whilst being at gunpoint of ten people, with not even a flinch. Wish more people could properly show fear and for once get injured after taking a couple of bullets.

[jovanca]

Hamza, bad leader wont care to punish a bad member and anyway most of the mafia members these days do not really care about punishments or verbal warnings untill they get banned.

Ferah, the problems you have mentioned (people turning into robots) comes straight from unrealistic first group experience when new players join the server. Rather than joining a real group, new players are excited when some X mafia group leader invites them and probably also offers them a high rank.

We need real groups, lead by those who are capable of educating new players. We need less cover-for-dm mafia groups and also we need to teach their members, even leaders, what roleplay is.

The only way this can work is by adding criterias when it comes to opening a group.