This is the problem.

[Teddy]

Whats up with the attitude guys? cmon now....

Exactly this... and then people wounder why there is no progress. There is no constructive debate here, it's just scattered thoughts aimed at jabbing random people.. not even ideas. Obviously not everyone will agree but there is a way to have constructive conversations without the content which sidelines the purpose. Until half these people, including the owner, can realize that... there will be no progress.

[Erion.]

I don't blame you too, you should not mix things between in game role-play character and real life.

I'm not.

[Pizza4_Games]

Exactly this... and then people wounder why there is no progress. There is no constructive debate here, it's just scattered thoughts aimed at jabbing random people.. not even ideas. Obviously not everyone will agree but there is a way to have constructive conversations without the content which sidelines the purpose. Until half these people, including the owner, can realize that... there will be no progress.

Thats why i see pepole judging each other :/

[.Matthew.]

Some ideas were suggested:
- OOC/IC + MG/PG rules
- Improved jobs so new players have something to do and earn money with.
- Make people roleplay instead of accepting various excuses such as "no i dont wanna rp now bye"
- /area removal
- No colors (orange dots)
- Dice

And so on..

[Mr. Goobii]

It is very unfortunate that people feel this way, as it kills creativity. For instance in the ancient times one would not need to script a fire mission. Instead a person that crashed their car might just call 911 and try to get police, fire department and medical teams present to get them out.
Currently this is expected to be a scripted mission and people will even not do the mission unless there is money awarded.
The problem with this is that you can never script to the same level as your imagination can reach, as well as that you are stuck with the imagination of the scripters instead of your own.
If all you are able to do is follow a set of instructions you are a robot, not a human being.

Hi Gandalf,

I partially agree, not fully though. I think functions and scripted jobs / activities / services / whatever is a great way to promote and enchant roleplay. Fire fighter's mission is maybe not the greatest roleplay attraction, but you have to look between your fingers and see what is going on behind the missions! I've seen great roleplayers that have enchanted the missions to become a living and creative place for everyone, especially for the cops / citizens / medics. I hope we can do more activities and get more functions and scripted activities that enchant more roleplay here in Argonath.

Humans will never become robots if they are free and have something to do!

Creativity comes from ideas and when you have no ideas left, you have to put something in to make people start roleplaying differently and unique again.

[Teddy]

Good job with something at least somewhat constructive,

- Make people roleplay instead of accepting various excuses such as "no i dont wanna rp now bye"

If I saw this, I'd instantly ban them.

- No colors (orange dots)
- Dice

We're doing both of these.

[Morais]

Some ideas were suggested:
- OOC/IC + MG/PG rules
- Improved jobs so new players have something to do and earn money with.
- Make people roleplay instead of accepting various excuses such as "no i dont wanna rp now bye"
- /area removal
- No colors (orange dots)
- Dice

And so on..

The problem isn't on the scripts but on the players mentality. We can advance from RS5 to RS1337 but if the players don't give a damn about the roleplay it won't work.

[Teddy]

The problem isn't on the scripts but on the players mentality. We can advance from RS5 to RS1337 but if the players don't give a damn about the roleplay it won't work.

This is true but only to a certain degree, the way the scripts are can help influence the mentality, or at least shape it... not much but it does have some impact. But yes I do agree the mentality of players wanting to scroll and click before even considering RP, and the mentality of wanting more money is a major problem we face today.

[Bundy]

I do, however should we cater to be just like all other ones or remain a difference?

Honestly, what's so unique about Argo?

We are missing out on lots of scripts and features SA:MP has to offer, but that goes under the guise of ''use your imagination''.
We have a low playerbase in comparison with other RP servers.
Before the scripters team actively started scripting a while back (thx guys) we had to wait a year for a single update, whilst other communities had updates weekly.

The only thing that makes Argonath unique is the community; if it wasn't for the friendships people have made here, everything would be dead by now.

[Que]

Tranlsation: I am tired of getting banned on LS:RP please copy their server for me.

Eight years ago, I would've respected that answer and believed you knew the best since you were older and more mature than me. Now, all I can see is a stubborn and moronic guy who still does his best to shove his head up to his own arse while he slowly kills the community he once masturbated to.

You fail to understand that the "world" you so much visionized about has changed within the community's age of growing older and more saggy. You keep screaming at people and telling them that they are wrong whilst you are inactive and do less and less to serve the community. You are too stubborn to fucking see the negative trend and the community's huge flaws while you still piss on LS:RP and other much more successful communities. The only thing you've developed during at least the last four-five years are your own inactivity and yet here you are telling the current leaders to quit and calling my deepest arguments as rants while you have a ten year outdated vision of the past while you don't have a single plan for the future.

You have no right to disrespect no one anymore because the only one who is wrong is you and your butt buddies who yet today are licking your goddamn diarrhea of your legs.

Have a good one.

[Morais]

Honestly, what's so unique about Argo?

The only thing that makes Argonath unique is the community; if it wasn't for the friendships people have made here, everything would be dead by now.

Exactly. I believe it's the only server you can get in to just chat or have a couple of jokes with everyone. I spent several hours standing in one place just having nice talks over public chat(mostly when the little ones already went to bed) and I think that's awesome. Also the kind of support that players give to newcommers and the time wasted with them in order to shape them up to embrace the argonath spirit instead of a 10 minutes tutorial with no "human" interaction. 

[Morais]

Eight years ago, I would've respected that answer and believed you knew the best since you were older and more mature than me. Now, all I can see is a stubborn and moronic guy who still does his best to shove his head up to his own arse while he slowly kills the community he once masturbated to.

You fail to understand that the "world" you so much visionized about has changed within the community's age of growing older and more saggy. You keep screaming at people and telling them that they are wrong whilst you are inactive and do less and less to serve the community. You are too stubborn to fucking see the negative trend and the community's huge flaws while you still piss on LS:RP and other much more successful communities. The only thing you've developed during at least the last four-five years are your own inactivity and yet here you are telling the current leaders to quit and calling my deepest arguments as rants while you have a ten year outdated vision of the past while you don't have a single plan for the future.

You have no right to disrespect no one anymore because the only one who is wrong is you and your butt buddies who yet today are licking your goddamn diarrhea of your legs.

Have a good one.

I'm pretty sure this could've been much less graphic but... somewhat you're right. LS is a stable and crowded community but like I said on my previous post Argonath is more than that, although I can't say much cause I only played on that other server for like 30 minutes. Obviously it's like a Germany VS Brazil but...

[Bruce.]

The problem isn't on the scripts but on the players mentality. We can advance from RS5 to RS1337 but if the players don't give a damn about the roleplay it won't work.

We need strict RP rules so people would not bitch around and shit....

- OOC/IC + MG/PG rules
- Improved jobs so new players have something to do and earn money with.
- Make people roleplay instead of accepting various excuses such as "no i dont wanna rp now bye"
- /area removal
- No colors (orange dots)

These are the perfect things we need and also I would like to add
- Don't let people lie in /em because /em is turning into the most shit chat during RPs

[Whiteman]

Eight years ago, I would've respected that answer and believed you knew the best since you were older and more mature than me. Now, all I can see is a stubborn and moronic guy who still does his best to shove his head up to his own arse while he slowly kills the community he once masturbated to.

You fail to understand that the "world" you so much visionized about has changed within the community's age of growing older and more saggy. You keep screaming at people and telling them that they are wrong whilst you are inactive and do less and less to serve the community. You are too stubborn to fucking see the negative trend and the community's huge flaws while you still piss on LS:RP and other much more successful communities. The only thing you've developed during at least the last four-five years are your own inactivity and yet here you are telling the current leaders to quit and calling my deepest arguments as rants while you have a ten year outdated vision of the past while you don't have a single plan for the future.

You have no right to disrespect no one anymore because the only one who is wrong is you and your butt buddies who yet today are licking your goddamn diarrhea of your legs.

Have a good one.

Word.

Time to step down Gandalf, let Teddy and others take over the decision making process. They have great plans and are ready to make them a reality, they know what the community needs, and they are listening to the people of Argonath, which is exceptional in the history of Argonath itself. Only thing keeping them back is you, sadly.

[Jack Rosso]

Eight years ago, I would've respected that answer and believed you knew the best since you were older and more mature than me. Now, all I can see is a stubborn and moronic guy who still does his best to shove his head up to his own arse while he slowly kills the community he once masturbated to.

You fail to understand that the "world" you so much visionized about has changed within the community's age of growing older and more saggy. You keep screaming at people and telling them that they are wrong whilst you are inactive and do less and less to serve the community. You are too stubborn to fucking see the negative trend and the community's huge flaws while you still piss on LS:RP and other much more successful communities. The only thing you've developed during at least the last four-five years are your own inactivity and yet here you are telling the current leaders to quit and calling my deepest arguments as rants while you have a ten year outdated vision of the past while you don't have a single plan for the future.

You have no right to disrespect no one anymore because the only one who is wrong is you and your butt buddies who yet today are licking your goddamn diarrhea of your legs.

Have a good one.

Straight to the point.