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Reply #210 on: July 14, 2015, 06:18:57 pm
we will continue working with and for you, the community.
Tbh the way it should always be done!


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Reply #211 on: July 14, 2015, 06:19:23 pm
Can you just stop posting that nonsense of yours, which is completely unrelated to any discussion going on.

You haven't been here enough long to even come up with anything healthy.
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Reply #212 on: July 14, 2015, 06:19:34 pm

@Gandalf

This is a joke. We look like kids... we're here fighting with each other. We're suppose to be a team, this isn't a team. You won't answer my Skype messages for two days... yet you have people here taking "Gandalf vrs HQ vrs Players vrs Veterans" side.

It isn't the mature thing to do... why don't you get on TeamSpeak with us and resolve this.

Let's keep this on every page so he can't ignore it.


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Reply #213 on: July 14, 2015, 06:19:53 pm
You haven't been here enough long to even come up with anything healthy.

Why would the ideas of anyone be considered less valuable than the next? People who play here deserve the same equality in their voice for this community as anyone one of us. Having this negative view against people simply for their time here is what is unhealthy.




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Reply #214 on: July 14, 2015, 06:20:25 pm
I say lets blame Stof for all of this. He wouldn't mind, would you bro?

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Reply #215 on: July 14, 2015, 06:20:40 pm
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Reply #216 on: July 14, 2015, 06:22:16 pm


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Reply #217 on: July 14, 2015, 06:22:28 pm
I say lets blame Stof for all of this. He wouldn't mind, would you bro?
I dont see Stof doing anything wrong:/


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Reply #218 on: July 14, 2015, 06:22:30 pm



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Reply #220 on: July 14, 2015, 06:23:45 pm
I dont see Stof doing anything wrong:/
If you were abit older you would've seen that.



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Reply #221 on: July 14, 2015, 06:24:13 pm
I dont see Stof doing anything wrong:/

this is why you need to stop posting completly unrelated posts

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Reply #222 on: July 14, 2015, 06:28:57 pm
:v:



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Reply #223 on: July 14, 2015, 06:50:42 pm
Our conversations shouldn't get leaked here then ^.^

But on point... Gandalf does pay for this server and he did build it up. We don't want him to leave, we want him to step and take responsibility. We want him to become an active participant, don't forget those of you saying shitting on vets... he himself is a veteran... he is the first player. However what needs to be different is less dependency on an outdated vision, and more open discussions with the community that are productive and progressive. If the owner gets involved in that and is willing to listen and keep and open mind.... the level of progression we can make would truly be historic in this community.
As usual people seem not to read or not to understand what is written. The reason I invested in this topic is to discuss how to make the changes people are asking and the leaders are willing to make while keeping things fair for all.
This is why I brought forward our old line of thought and what situations could arise on changing some aspects of how players need to behave.
It is interesting that instead of bringing forward solutions to what I put as food for thought, those who are requesting changes immediately go in to attack mode. They can not provide solutions so they blame it om my inactivity and creating the strawman that I am unwilling to let change happen.
If you have read the posts (apart from the snipes, those are just my trolls) you should notice that I am posing the possible downside of proporsed rules. That is not to stop them from happening or being against them, but to get a solution for them.

What is most important to me is that the leadership and adminsitration are fair towards all players, both new ones and veterans. If a rule change means fairness is not guaranteed, it should at least be determined how to handle that without making things impossible to enforce.

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Reply #224 on: July 14, 2015, 06:58:55 pm
and we've stayed generally within those limits out of respect for you... yet you do nothing but f**cking ignore us and insult the person who has more access to your community than you? Very smart. Luckily for you I am trustworthy and won't do anything stupid with that access.
If you are unable to separat constructive discussion from criticism then you need to get a better perspective.
Your comments about ceasing hostility work against the actual discussion, just let things go and after some pages it either ends or turns construtive.
For the rest, if I ever doubted you in any way you would never had the access you have.

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