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Reply #15 on: July 18, 2015, 04:39:42 am
it will just make players /q from argonath.
No. If it makes them quit then they are certainly looking for a DeathMatching platform and are not here to roleplay.


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Reply #16 on: July 18, 2015, 04:44:02 am
No. If it makes them quit then they are certainly looking for a DeathMatching platform and are not here to roleplay.
What's the difference between combat and a 9mm ? DM is DM. killing faster is a differnt thing.

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Reply #17 on: July 18, 2015, 04:45:01 am
looking for a DeathMatching platform and are not here to roleplay.
Only because they like to use a combat does that mean that they don't want to RP and only DM?

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Reply #18 on: July 18, 2015, 04:45:44 am
No. If it makes them quit then they are certainly looking for a DeathMatching platform and are not here to roleplay.
Indeed,
The combat is a DM weapon it belongs in a DM server.
I'm happy they removed the combat, it makes shootouts... blehhhh
*Bunnyhop to the player in cover and kill him with a combat* is not RP at all.
The combat is too overpowered to be in a RP server.
I'd support the idea if they decrease the damage of it but then again.. you have a regular shotgun.


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Reply #19 on: July 18, 2015, 04:51:25 am
Indeed,
The combat is a DM weapon it belongs in a DM server.
I'm happy they removed the combat, it makes shootouts... blehhhh
*Bunnyhop to the player in cover and kill him with a combat* is not RP at all.
The combat is too overpowered to be in a RP server.
I'd support the idea if they decrease the damage of it but then again.. you have a regular shotgun.
a player *bunnyhop* with EVERY weapon they use in a shootout, wtf guys use your brain. What's the difference between a DM weapon and a RP weapon? You can DM with a combat and with a bat. There is no realistic shootout @ samp.

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Reply #20 on: July 18, 2015, 04:56:07 am
Indeed,
The combat is a DM weapon it belongs in a DM server.
I'm happy they removed the combat, it makes shootouts... blehhhh
*Bunnyhop to the player in cover and kill him with a combat* is not RP at all.
The combat is too overpowered to be in a RP server.
I'd support the idea if they decrease the damage of it but then again.. you have a regular shotgun.
DM Weapon? tafuq? i dont think there is such thing is a DM or an RP weapon at all, its just they're buyable weapons .  I disagree with combat shotgun is because its too OP


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Reply #21 on: July 18, 2015, 05:01:07 am
a player *bunnyhop* with EVERY weapon they use in a shootout, wtf guys use your brain. What's the difference between a DM weapon and a RP weapon? You can DM with a combat and with a bat. There is no realistic shootout @ samp.
In your example:
"What's the difference between combat and a 9mm ? DM is DM. killing faster is a differnt thing."

What would a DMer choose? 9mm or combat.
A DMer wants to kill people, fast and a lot.
He'd never choose a 9mm but he always wants the overpowered weapons.
Why? Cuz you don't need skills for it.
I agree with you, there isn't such thing as a 'DM weapon'  in theory.
I just can't find a good reason to bring that weapon back..
Maybe if I was a Dmer; yes, it kills a lot of people easy and fast and you can penetrate through a lot of objects.
I just think it's better without the combat.
Can you promise me, that with the combat back, we'll have more players that actually stay and RP?
I prefer those people over new guys just buying guns and DMing twice till their money is gone.
Do you think a potential good player cares if there is a combat or not? I don't think so.


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Reply #22 on: July 18, 2015, 05:08:16 am
In your example:
"What's the difference between combat and a 9mm ? DM is DM. killing faster is a differnt thing."

What would a DMer choose? 9mm or combat.
A DMer wants to kill people, fast and a lot.
He'd never choose a 9mm but he always wants the overpowered weapons.
Why? Cuz you don't need skills for it.
I agree with you, there isn't such thing as a 'DM weapon'  in theory.
I just can't find a good reason to bring that weapon back..
Maybe if I was a Dmer; yes, it kills a lot of people easy and fast and you can penetrate through a lot of objects.
I just think it's better without the combat.
Can you promise me, that with the combat back, we'll have more players that actually stay and RP?
I prefer those people over new guys just buying guns and DMing twice till their money is gone.
Do you think a potential good player cares if there is a combat or not? I don't think so.

*coughs* people who used to use combat would kill you in the middle of you typing and rping *coughs*
thing is, even me hate the combat but keep using :/ until its gone. But why would you think a dmer would choose the combat, some dmers prefer other weapons than the combat, even though i used to use it i now call it the 'Vagina Cannon' :/


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Reply #23 on: July 18, 2015, 05:41:03 am
i haven't really seen anyone moaning about Combat being gone.. and no people have not left the server because of it, if you haven't noticed School break has just finished and people are back at school that is why most people aren't online, combat hasnt affected the player count at all as far as i have seen. So i do not see why this Topic was made..



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Reply #24 on: July 18, 2015, 05:54:37 am
I actually enjoy not seeing a combat in any kind of shootouts. The shootout now needs more skill and it gets closer to realism, because people take cover and all, instead of just running towards someone and raping him with a combat.

The sawn off has to be removed too, just because of that annoying unrealistic running around people and shooting them.



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Reply #25 on: July 18, 2015, 06:27:40 am
Combat is an overpowered unrealistic weapon. I'm glad to see to see it removed. This also gives fair chances to all during combats, not just the combat users during the combats are eligible to 'win' due to the unfair advantage.

About the Shawn off, I agree it should be removed as its overpowered plus the fact that players run whilst using it which makes it quite hard to shoot them.

Also, it doesnt make sense that a player leaves the game for a weapon which got removed. If that's real then they better stay out :)




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Reply #26 on: July 18, 2015, 06:44:58 am
Combat just allows people to Kill you instantly.. its not a realistic gun at all, just use normal or sawn off shotgun. but if Combat shotgun was to ever return i would say Decrease it's damage per bullet if possible.. Combat is the main reason newbs Shoot to kill when your typing, but now there is only deagle so they can only get like 1-2 bullets out.. with combat you would be dead before you can press esc to cancel yyour typing.. i witness'd this stupid move about 100 thousand times.. if people want to quit because of a weapon they can go live on a DM server.
Not a realistic weapon ? i'd say pistol's damage should be increased drastically lol in real life you can almost put down a man with 1 shot.

Its just that with 7 shots it can bring down a player with full armour and hp...pretty annoying for those who are in middle of chats, though rather than removing combat why don't you simply increase its cost by a huge margin ?



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Reply #27 on: July 18, 2015, 07:17:07 am
No.

I believe Argonath will be back as soon as the exams are over.
SA:MP server is currently in a decent state with a stable player base of around 20-25 people on a daily basis.


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Reply #28 on: July 18, 2015, 08:32:54 am
no. doesnt need an explanation why



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Reply #29 on: July 18, 2015, 09:00:27 am
I think that many people who likes to use combat will just /q because of it and we need activity.

If they quit for this reason then they are not on our server for the good purpose.




 


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