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[SA:MP] The Ministry of Good Intentions | Official Military of Argonath

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Offline Ivan_Dzeba

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You keep saying you know what you're doing, yet your actions prove contrary. If you were such an experienced roleplayer, name of the group you run would not present a problem to you, but an opportunity to make something fresh and new. All i've seen you do on cop duty is either being afk, or constantly try to bait GSF into commiting crimes and disrupting every kind of roleplay GSF has started while you're online (if not afk). Also, when you say you have experience in millitary groups on other servers, you are not reffering to paruni, are you?

Not paruni.

Well, I meant freecop in early 2015, and 2014 and 2013. Yes, maybe I am a more childish and stupid freecop, but now I am realizing my mistakes and I am taking the job more seriously.

I admit that baiting, I am sorry, but, now I realize it, and whenvever I go on cop duty, I am gonna be VERY careful on how I do things.



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It's just.

Why is there SO MUCH critics and negativity towards the groups I create.

In MF I got some 3-4 members quickly, and I am getting alot more people to be interested. But just, soo much negativity,critics.

Its like, the community hates me. I don't know, I just don't know why won't people just try to be positive and support me, if that happened, I would have never closed any groups.



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In MF I got some 3-4 members quickly, and I am getting alot more people to be interested. But just, soo much negativity,critics.

Good start, stick to that group then. No need for you to be jumping from one group to another, it's unprofessional.


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The real reason why I closed groups is because, too much negativity and critics, that made me realize that it is pointless.
This is exactly the thing that makes you a bad leader. You let other people talk you down. You wouldn't last a day in society as someone with responsibilities.


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After the 2 groups closed down and after the ammount of negativity and critics, I started to lose motivation for groups that I, myself created.
Because everything you do makes it look like all you want is to be in charge of people. You're not someone people want to follow, you don't inspire anyone. You just create a topic and expect people to just come joining in.

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Yet, I would not lose motivation in MGI, I don't know how, but, I just wouldn't, even if there were 1000 haters, I just wouldn't.
This confirms everyone's concern regarding your ability to continue with this group as a leader. There's no substructure for what you claim, no one's going to fall for it.



- Create your own group from scratch, prove yourself to be an interesting person to work with, inspire others to join you and your cause, and you'll end up being more successful than MGI ever was. (no pun intended, Frank)

- Or, join already existing groups (SAPD/FBI/SWAT/CIA/etc) and work your way up.


Don't try to be someone you're not (yet). People here don't dislike you as a person, they are annoyed by the way you do things.



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Why my group, when there is a chance that I could maybe lead a ex-successful millitary group, that its leader gave permission for me to lead it.



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The real reason why I closed groups is because, too much negativity and critics, that made me realize that it is pointless.
Right because your prison group got so much negativity... If I remember correctly many people were saying it was a good idea and that they would like to see more prison RP, with a few also suggesting things for you to do to improve it, but you ditched that regardless.

Yet, I would not lose motivation in MGI, I don't know how, but, I just wouldn't, even if there were 1000 haters, I just wouldn't.
Why? The name makes a big difference to you?

It's just.

Why is there SO MUCH critics and negativity towards the groups I create.

In MF I got some 3-4 members quickly, and I am getting alot more people to be interested. But just, soo much negativity,critics.

Its like, the community hates me. I don't know, I just don't know why won't people just try to be positive and support me, if that happened, I would have never closed any groups.
If 'MF' has had alot of interest why are you trying to ditch it for MGI?

The only 'negativity' that has been towards you has been related to the way you keep opening and closing groups, the community doesn't hate you, it's just that you need to fix what you're doing, you seem to be chasing power too much and you do honestly look power hungry to me, as someones already said, don't expect everything to drop into your lap, getting 'special things' takes time and effort.

Why my group, when there is a chance that I could maybe lead a ex-successful millitary group, that its leader gave permission for me to lead it.
Why does it matter if it's "ex-successful" - Just saying this makes you look even more incapable creating/running something that CAN be successful.

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I say go back to DoC, that was actually a gap in argonath which you filled but you closed it. Just because you make a group don't expect that type of roleplay 24/7 like you were saying to everyone bring people to mordor. You should be patient and actually create organised roleplay which can be done by contacting marcel or criminal court judge. Not just that, if ever there is a crime which warrants a jailing in mordor you can ask the officer and the person in custody if they are up for it and also do a prison RP.

And when there is no DoC RP just continue police rp as normal.

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Just let him lead it with unofficial status and no script support as Devin said. Let him take over the name and see if he can keep his word of sticking to it.



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Luis, like I told you ingame, you should probably stick to your own thing. MGI has a history and there's a big reputation to uphold. Not just anyone should use the name MGI imo

As for why ''the community hates you'', that's something you should figure out yourself. My advice is to keep your communication on mainchat to a minimum because a lot of people seem to get really annoyed by what you say.

Respect is earned, not given.



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Last thing Argonath needs is 10 groups with same objectives to overwrite eachother and step on eachother's tasks.
If you'd like to do undercover work and investigations - FBI and CIA.
If you'd like to be a traffic officer, a general police officer or anything of that kind - SAPD.
If you'd like to do tactical assaults and breaches - SWAT.

There's much more to the tasks of the above, what I've written is only a brief description.
So instead of seeking for leadership, join one of the existing groups and settle up.



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I believe we should all go back to the topic.

On a side note @Ivan_Dzeba

As people said above try to settle on an existing group or go back to DoC because, that was seriously the only group that I see a future in, not even MGI.
Seriously look at it, it had an official status and script support and it didn't even last for 3 months; if you want my advice go back to the DoC.



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Last thing Argonath needs is 10 groups with same objectives to overwrite eachother and step on eachother's tasks.
If you'd like to do undercover work and investigations - FBI and CIA.
If you'd like to be a traffic officer, a general police officer or anything of that kind - SAPD.
If you'd like to do tactical assaults and breaches - SWAT.

There's much more to the tasks of the above, what I've written is only a brief description.
So instead of seeking for leadership, join one of the existing groups and settle up.

Correct, and SAPD always welcomes people who have the motive in learning and growing by our side!


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I say go back to DoC, that was actually a gap in argonath which you filled but you closed it. Just because you make a group don't expect that type of roleplay 24/7 like you were saying to everyone bring people to mordor. You should be patient and actually create organised roleplay which can be done by contacting marcel or criminal court judge. Not just that, if ever there is a crime which warrants a jailing in mordor you can ask the officer and the person in custody if they are up for it and also do a prison RP.

And when there is no DoC RP just continue police rp as normal.


To anyone that wants to create DoC, just ask me. I am sticking to the millitary.

I loved being a soldier, but then ADF closed down and all of my dreams went down the drain. But now, I created the Millitary Force of Argonath, and maybe there will be success.



 


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