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[Cyril]

Let's not use the school excuse. We know the problem is not there as there are more than 20k players playing SA:MP and we have only 15 of them on our server.

[Satoshi]

Indeed, finally someone who knows the problem and is in administration team. The lack of players problem is because the actual server scripts and instead of trying to make make them better and come up with unique scripts that a player may be starting to play here because they enjoy the scripts, we're working on Telegram and god knows what else.

[Salmonella]

Let's not use the school excuse. We know the problem is not there as there are more than 20k players playing SA:MP and we have only 15 of them on our server.

Then what is the problem?

Gotta keep in mind that Argonath's playerbase mainly consists of loyal community members, a lot of which happen to have to go to school now.

[Johan_S]

Gotta keep in mind that Argonath's playerbase mainly consists of loyal community members, a lot of which happen to have to go to school now.

You're very correct dear Salmonella, and the loyal members of our server are getting older now.

[Satoshi]

Then what is the problem?

The server itself, the scripts, are the problem.

[Axison]

We are lacking players due to multiple reasons and school happens to be one of them. Lacking of players majorly relies on unfinished scripts and overall environment of the server. That being, lower player count from the start. No one is attracted to servers with 10 players(night time). We reach max 40 and thats still less, players join at this hour but happen to not be interested, therefore leaving. Using the "its school time" excuse is 100% valid because it contributes to the issue. 

[Corey.]

Good news!

[Brian]

Indeed, finally someone who knows the problem and is in administration team. The lack of players problem is because the actual server scripts and instead of trying to make make them better and come up with unique scripts that a player may be starting to play here because they enjoy the scripts, we're working on Telegram and god knows what else.

If you would actually have paid some attention you would know a lot of people have asked for a 'telegram' style item, a way so they can communicate with their friends without being in-game.

After checking through your posts it doesn't really seem that you are showing any ideas, just show negative attitude, saying how bad everything is without actually describing it.
You try to join the advertisement team but yet you only show an attitude that gives you the appearance that you disgust the server.

[Satoshi]

Why would I say Telegram is a good thing we have when we're still lacking of basic scripts that other servers have since a few SA:MP clients now? We do need to focus on what we need rather than things that are less important. Of course players do want new things, I do too. But you have to think and see what's more important, working on the script that could bring us players, or do Telegram?

I applied for advertisement team in order to help and raise the playerbase, not because of the rank or anything like that, but you know what? Disconsider my application, I am withdrawing it. What ideas can I show? There are lots of ideas sitting in the SA:MP Ideas thread that are waiting to get ingame. I am pointing out that we need to focus on SA:MP script and make it better, not to work on other stuff that aren't so necessary.

[Salmonella]

You're very correct dear Salmonella, and the loyal members of our server are getting older now.

A good part is, yeah. Still I think the majority goes to school.

[Stivi]

A good part is, yeah. Still I think the majority goes to school.

I'll give it until 25th September for this school thing to end. School is a reason but it's not the main one.


When the old team gave up/got removed (( Let's not get into that discussion, please )) and Teddy gathered his new team, the playerbase did increase and we'd have 70players on an average day. Now max. we can reach is 40. I think the developer team needs to push more VISUAL updates. As in, a bizz script, removing trucking script, things that impact what players can see. I agree that the server performance updates, security updates and such are needed, but they don't attract players. Nor does Telegram, but it's a nice thing to have nontheless. There's a new update on Telegram, let's wait for that and then just stop it there. It can be picked up at a later time, but right now, it's not much needed. Frankly, I think we should just scrap it out.

If you would actually have paid some attention you would know a lot of people have asked for a 'telegram' style item, a way so they can communicate with their friends without being in-game.

This wouldn't solve the problem with the player base, would it? I mean, we want people to BE IN-GAME, not out of it.

[Satoshi]

I doubt our only issue is the school, summer, winter, holiday or whatever reasons you guys have. Don't get me wrong, I am not being negative here. I am trying to point out that we need to WORK ON SCRIPTS. We need to come up with new scripts more often, do unique scripts, improve what we got, do more advertisement, post a trailer, make a thread on SA:MP advertisement board, do whatever it takes to get players.

[Axison]

I doubt our only issue is the school, summer, winter, holiday or whatever reasons you guys have.

Its not the only issue. And it shouldn't be classed as an issue because its something that comes before everything. Not to mention, many people may have school but alot of us are now moving towards college and such.

[Cofiliano]

How about dropping all these "inactive because of summer", "inactive because of school", "inactive because of winter holidays"? Let's face the truth, we're lacking of players because we do not satisfy nowadays roleplayer's demands for a better server.

That's about it.


About hosted tab, every server that attempts to be successful or serious is on the hosted tab. Yeah alot of hackers comes with it, but that shouldn't be the issue.

Alot of new players has joined, spent time around and left. And I'm talking about big numbers of new players who weren't hackers, who even used firstname_lastname etc. Why's that? 

Satoshi gave all the answers to our problem. There are new servers around, who were build in less then 2 months, by one scripter, whos script looks like science fiction to Argonath, and it doesn't have a single script bugged or missing comparing to Argonath, on the contrary they're all sophisticated comparing to ours.

And where is Argo 2 years after releasing rs5? Still no business script, and a 2007 drug script. Not to mention other scripts such as turfs, and random jobs (fishing hunting etc that were "promised")

That's the reality of our  server.

[Satoshi]

There are new servers around, who were build in less then 2 months, by one scripter, whos script looks like science fiction to Argonath.

Why is that? Because other scripters dedicate more time on the scripting than other additional needs for the server and work efficiently whilst HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO DOES THAT. We're having 2 scripters yet we're lacking of basic scripts that any roleplay server has.