Hosted Tab.

[Drawn]

The upcoming school schedule is clearly one of the main reasons of the huge drop in the ammount of online players.
Due to that, we're losing numbers, and removing the hosted tab will not do nothing but fuck up things even more, in my opinion, risking to have 5 hackers joining and one serious player is something I'd really take, since we got the a-team to handle theese " hackers ".
You say we depend on loyal members in the community, but as you can see they are decreasing, which means that it'll eventually lead to making the server empty, this puts that being in the hosted tab is something very important to you, us and the community.

[Cofiliano]

Sam(Drawn) summarized the reason why removing the hosted tab would be a suicide move at the moment.

[Ivan_MC]

You all mentioning the school problem are so funny. School problem just made OUR members not to be so active, and we are talking here about increasing the player count ( because as you can see there are 20k+ players playing SAMP atm ) NOT about returning our constant players. So please stop talking about that school problem. As for the other thing about script, in my opinion you need few more developers ( as you can see there are a lot ) to help Teddy and Mikro out and that is the main problem.

[Axison]

I'm down to help as said before.

[.Matthew.]

What people said is true.
Does anyone even try playing as a new player in the server who just registered?
What does he have to do to entertain him? Let's see.

- Mechanic - drive around and offer repairs.
- Medic - drive around and heal 10hp while food heals 30.
- Trucker - drive around all alone from spot to spot just to earn some money.
- Hooker - what's the purpose of this again?
- Fireman - only proper job there is that serves function.

Now what to do? Improve those jobs and extend their borders. Make them more usable, more requested and more needed.
Food shouldn't heal 30hp and medic 10hp, it should be the opposite. Food heals 10 and medic 30.
Mechanic shouldn't only be able to repair, but also change vehicle color, wheels, impound and so on... and all of that at Gas Station. And no, I'm not saying he should type a command and wheel magically appears. It should take minute or so while the mechanic is in an animation appropriate for the type of action.
Trucker should be getting less money but also have less driving, make it deliver supplies from business to business (Yes, the actual businesses, $ icons) around the city. Less driving, gets money and at least gets interaction instead of travelling from Docks to Desert where nobody is.
Fireman, whenever vehicle explodes, it should be made a fire mission where an object of a destroyed vehicle is placed and they need to put it out, since it happens more regularly than the usual fire mission, they'd be entertain throughout those 30 mins of waiting.
Police volunteer, I noticed that since the freecops were removed, playercount went into a hole. It was obviously the most entertaining job because every situation was different, and it's a job that constantly had something going on in. So, it should be limited by passport and license requirement, and the volunteer officers must follow all the regulations by the SAPD. Any kind of abuse, misuse, misbehavior results in a copban with period of 1 week and longer. 1 hour does nothing.

Now another point, the most needed scripts like new drug system, business profit and similar are the last ones to be implemented. Like drug system, it was announced some time before Chase went away and where is it? it's in the picture. Looks like every needed and requested thing by majority ends up added months and months after being suggested instead of focusing on it only and setting it as priority.
The things that are suggested and supported by the majority of players should simply be set as priority and made instead of making it a background process.

And it's not SA-MP dying, it's servers that are dying. And to not let Argonath die, the script needs improvements that satisfy new players and old players, something that motivates them to stay and something that entertains them. Something suggested by the community.

[Johan_S]

in my opinion, risking to have 5 hackers joining and one serious player is something I'd really take, since we got the a-team to handle theese " hackers ".

The reality and the actuality is that we aren't getting a single player due to reasons mentioned above from other community members.

[Drawn]

Johan_S, we actually are getting new players, I've noticed some guys that are down to play in here, we get visitors yes but the problem is making them come back, half of them never do so. We need to improve  the server to make it suit everyone and be fun to play in.
Removing the hosted tab is something that'll not do anything but fucking up things that are already been fucked. If you do that, we'll come to a time where we won't have anyone playing anymore, we desperatly need new players to come and STAY.

[Stivi]

I feel the current development team, which is lacking members and dedication, let's be honest, is too spread-out. And this topic is also not motivating them, even though no one is shitting on them.


Someone mentioned paying scripters, won't work. Yes, they get some dollars today, but what happens when a bug occurs? What happens when players need a new feature?

[Johan_S]

For my opinion, first we should make the server stable and with features that attract new players and veterans as well. After this the player count is just a matter of days.

[Satoshi]

For my opinion, first we should make the server stable and with features that attract new players and veterans as well. After this the player count is just a matter of days.

Exactly.

[Que]

Hi.

Either you do all the changes of making Argonath a serious server, or you keep Argonath the way it is. The freeroam-type of server, with events, LQ and all. Being in the middle is only a weird mix of everything and I'm pretty sure new players are wondering the same. If you want to get more players, you should do promotion videos on Youtube, be active on social media and try to reach out to more people, do unique things. Stand out from the rest and make sure you do it to the fullest. Thinking people will come to Argonath, with its reputation not being the best whilst there's plenty of serious AND freeroam servers around without reaching out to them going to change nuddin.

In case people are wondering about me being away from Argonath is because I frankly don't have any time for games and I rather enjoy playing when I do than trying to change a community that is unwilling to sacrifice what's brought them down in the first place. Even though things has changed the last couple of months, you can't do it half way and expect an inferno of players.

I still do videos if people are interested. 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj8ItVWXMsU
To be a bit more on topic, I would advise you to stay on hosted tab while you recruit and promote the server on social media and through other methods.

[Bruce.]

Either you do all the changes of making Argonath a serious server, or you keep Argonath the way it is.

It was said before that Argonath will not change to a srs server.

[Cofiliano]

And no one suggested that Argonath should change to a srs roleplay server. Yet a serious server, with decent roleplay level.

[Que]

It was said before that Argonath will not change to a srs server.

You can't do stuff half way and think that people will understand the point of the changes. A mix of everything might have worked five-six years ago, but with the concurrence today means that your server needs to have something out of the ordinary. Argonath has nothing out of the ordinary right now. It's a basic server with quite basic player base who live in its past and believes the future will somehow turn into a paradise without doing the job that is necessary to do. I once reached out to help but got "ignored" with the attitude of the knowledge is way above my class. I still wonder when that's going to show.

And no one suggested that Argonath should change to a srs roleplay server. Yet a serious server, with decent roleplay level.

And this is what I meant, if you misunderstood my first post, Bruce.

[Teddy]

What does he have to do to entertain him? Let's see.

- Mechanic - drive around and offer repairs.
- Medic - drive around and heal 10hp while food heals 30.
- Trucker - drive around all alone from spot to spot just to earn some money.
- Hooker - what's the purpose of this again?
- Fireman - only proper job there is that serves function.

You are missing the most important.

- Roleplay - This is a RP server.

You obviously don't belong here. There is that other N... RP server where you RP with scripts more than players, why don't you relocate there? I'll send you IP.