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[Satoshi]

You are missing the most important.

- Roleplay - This is a RP server.

You obviously don't belong here. There is that other N... RP server where you RP with scripts more than players, why don't you relocate there? I'll send you IP.

We're discussing how can we get more players, why don't you show us some positive attitude and listen to us?

[Mark]

In case people are wondering about me being away from Argonath is because I frankly don't have any time for games and I rather enjoy playing when I do than trying to change a community that is unwilling to sacrifice what's brought them down in the first place. Even though things has changed the last couple of months, you can't do it half way and expect an inferno of players.

That's good, you didn't bring anything special anyway.
 
Most of people are not interested in serious roleplay server, playercounts decreased also due the low chances to have a decent roleplay without someone moaning because of that and this or because they're just too annoyed to have various scenarios coming randomly instead of those big shootouts fests. Player's mind should change, we're not like those serious roleplay servers where you gotta pay to boost up and i guess none wants us to turn into that. You can still have fun without all those script functions, scripters are having a hard time right now and they're not getting paid for what they did/do here.
I agree that some things like drug script are outdated and annoying but it's standing united each other that we can raise playercount and roleplay, moaning about this was better before or i want this because i saw it there continuosly will just lower the mood of you and those who hard work may not like it.

[Teddy]

We're discussing how can we get more players, why don't you show us some positive attitude and listen to us?

Do you have any idea how ignorant your post right here is? I'm the only one listening to you guys and making changes. Nobody else ever cared in Argonath until I showed up as a developer.

[Satoshi]

Do you have any idea how ignorant your post right here is? I'm the only one listening to you guys and making changes. Nobody else ever cared in Argonath until I showed up as a developer.

Changes that takes hell of a lot of time before being in-game, or most of the times be ignored or put in the so long waiting list of scripts.

[Que]

That's good, you didn't bring anything special anyway.

Can't you please tell me when you've done five successful groups during the years, been creating videos, topics and signatures for the community since 2008, been an admin on SA:MP, a mod on IV:MP, while being interacted and a part of almost all the big groups in the past, while being the creator of various of topics who reached and created discussions that created changes, which also led to good debates and probably a few changed thoughts and at last tell me when you've taught as many players as I've done and making new players feel at home here on Argonath such as previous community leaders.

If you haven't, then please leave your garbage post about me doing nothing for this community while you don't have a clue of what any of the old generation has done, including myself.

[.Matthew.]

I understand the /me thing, but that's not gonna bring players. As much as it worked 2008 and around, it's the script that brought players during RS4. It was just more alive and had more features that entertained. SA-MP advances with new features and possibilities, so should the script, We can't forever rely on a chat message...

[Mark]

Can't you please tell me when you've done five successful groups during the years, been creating videos, topics and signatures for the community since 2008, been an admin on SA:MP, a mod on IV:MP, while being interacted and a part of almost all the big groups in the past, while being the creator of various of topics who reached and created discussions that created changes, which also led to good debates and probably a few changed thoughts and at last tell me when you've taught as many players as I've done and making new players feel at home here on Argonath.

Otherwise, please leave your garbage post about me doing nothing for this community while you don't have a clue of what any of the old generation has done for this community, including myself.

I'm talking about past months. You may have been this and that before, i don't care at all to be honest , you're not playing here reguarly , now , to see what's really happening. Your successful group died just a bit after you went inactive, maybe dedicate more time to them instead of blaming all the community players for your own fault.
I have been interacting with everyone since i registered the first day, been helping tons of players and i reached some of my goals too. But not for this i feel like i'm ahead and that the community must change because i want it to go in my way.

[Mang]

You are missing the most important.

- Roleplay - This is a RP server.

You obviously don't belong here. There is that other N... RP server where you RP with scripts more than players, why don't you relocate there? I'll send you IP.

Do you think that being a roleplay server excludes you from the need of having actual scripts? Sure, /me and /l can support some basic RP but there's a reason Argonath is dying and other RP servers are getting more and more popular, and part of that is boring scripts and jobs on Argo, you can't just blame everything on the community like you like to do. Of course, admins constantly acting childish and attacking the players that disagree with them doesn't help also...

[Que]

I'm talking about past months. You may have been this and that before, i don't care at all to be honest , you're not playing here reguarly , now , to see what's really happening. Your successful group died just a bit after you went inactive, maybe dedicate more time to them instead of blaming all the community players for your own fault.
I have been interacting with everyone since i registered the first day, been helping tons of players and i reached some of my goals too. But not for this i feel like i'm ahead and that the community must change because i want it to go in my way.

If you do not care, why bother raising an argument against me when it's invalid and has no use?

And for your own information, Markk. I am, as you wrote, not around anymore more than on forum when I have the time to, so you can eat your sandwich while believing that changes and hard work immediately grow out of trees while Teddy and their great comrades are trying his hardest to get the community back together.

Good luck, guys.

[Teddy]

Changes that takes hell of a lot of time before being in-game, or most of the times be ignored or put in the so long waiting list of scripts.

More ignorance. Why don't you provide something positive, accurate, and logical before expecting a positive attitude. Otherwise I can show you out of this topic.

Do you think that being a roleplay server excludes you from the need of having actual scripts? Sure, /me and /l can support some basic RP but there's a reason Argonath is dying and other RP servers are getting more and more popular, and part of that is boring scripts and jobs on Argo, you can't just blame everything on the community like you like to do. Of course, admins constantly acting childish and attacking the players that disagree with them doesn't help also...

I do believe I said you are missing thus implying in addition to scripts, RP is most important.

[Satoshi]

I do believe I said you are missing thus implying in addition to scripts, RP is most important.

As you can see, it doesn't work like that. Players won't come only because we've got a /me command, no.

[Teddy]

As you can see, it doesn't work like that. Players won't come only because we've got a /me command, no.

As you can see, that's not at all what I'm saying.

in addition to scripts, RP is most important.

[Mang]

As you can see, it doesn't work like that. Players won't come only because we've got a /me command, no.

Indeed, there's literally no reason for  a new player to come to Argonath instead of one of the many RP servers that exist and are much move advanced than Argonath script-sense. Unless you're aiming for old Argonath players coming back, you won't ever get past your daily 50 player cap unless you start innovating.

I do believe I said you are missing thus implying in addition to scripts, RP is most important.

You're acting as if Argonath is the only server that has roleplay, no, there are many other servers that arguably have better roleplay quality while having much better scripts than Argo.

[Khm]

And here comes the top RP role model again to throw his ideas that failed in his own server copying from yet another real life RP server. This is Argonath, we used to have great role-play scenarios even with 150 players IG and 25 percent of them were dmers.. What happened?
If you guys open your eyes you will find it really clear, it's not because of RS5. It's not because of players leaving for being old or w/e, in fact a lot left before and a lot came in their places but now, people are leaving more often than the people who are coming. So what's the problem?
The problem is the way how RS5 was brought, the promises that were not full filled and the way how a lot of community members left and the way of some other people getting in positions they don't belong to (I'm not shitting on anyone, if you know you're doing good then I'm not talking about you). Players were promised a lot of things to be implemented in the server yet they didn't come..
Another thing is the attitude change, a lot (you're blind if you say no) of players and even admins attitude went really bad, and the most horrible reply you get for it "if your feelings were hurt we don't care, life is a bad girl and you have to get used to such stuff to succeed in life and we're sick of people with horrible attitude" You're a volunteer, if you're sick of what you volunteered to just leave it to someone else who's more capable than you. You don't treat fire with fire, if everyone was actually acting like his parents taught him or at least how school taught him it would be much better for us all to create a better atmosphere for the new players.
Another thing is the people who are being ignored and shit on, specially the people who are considered as low class for some dumb "highclass" western people (Black humans, Asians, new players, Arabs, Muslims, Jews, Christians...), if you look through every idea proposed by one of these people you will feel the heat coming from these "highclass" to the "lowclass" (for them). Believe it or no ban evaders too, some really regret what they do and try to somehow help out but still being ignored. Some just need a slap in the face to wake him up and tell him that he has no life.
One final thing, the people who worked their asses and got screwed.. This is the biggest problem in Argonath, I won't mention names but staff, HQ and Gandalf precisely should appreciate what other people do for Argonath to make it live to the future, a lot left and don't want to come back anymore due to this (yes) HUGE problem. Remember that these guys volunteered their lives for YOU, they are not anyone's slaves, slavery is forbidden.

I told you guys before that Hosted tab alone won't do anything, it needs more than that. Hearts together, advertising around the internet, warm hearts. A real team combined of friends, real friends too.

Again, I'm not being negative or trying to shit on anyone, if you take this as negativity turn it into a positivity and work for it and avoid what I pointed out..

[Mark]

If you do not care, why bother raising an argument against me when it's invalid and has no use?

And for your own information, Markk. I am, as you wrote, not around anymore more than on forum when I have the time to, so you can eat your sandwich while believing that changes and hard work immediately grow out of trees while Teddy and their great comrades are trying his hardest to get the community back together.

That is when truth hurts.

Here the quote from my previous post

Player's mind should change, we're not like those serious roleplay servers where you gotta pay to boost up and i guess none wants us to turn into that. You can still have fun without all those script functions, scripters are having a hard time right now and they're not getting paid for what they did/do here.
I agree that some things like drug script are outdated and annoying but it's standing united each other that we can raise playercount and roleplay, moaning about this was better before or i want this because i saw it there continuosly will just lower the mood of you and those who hard work may not like it.

I have never believed in what you said, i'm doing my best to roleplay with everyone around the server and have fun together, i have no intention to rush on the scripts as i'm adapting myself to the current situation together with some friends, i don't always have a good income in terms of fun but i feel i'm doing the right thing instead of moaning because the scripters couldn't do this in time or brought something else instead of what i wanted.
Some may not agree with adapting, and i partially understand that, you/we are not forced to do this.