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[Frank_Hawk]

Such a waste of time reading the latest posts.

Continue to advertise the server on the hosted tab.

[TruthSvensson]

@Que Okay we get it, you used to be cool on Argonath. If you want to play a "Real Life Simulator", there are a lot ot of servers out there and possibly Argonath will have one too. You can go and play on those servers. For eight years I have been here playing by the Argonath rules and style. That's why we play here, I don't understand why you want to change the things which made Argonath unique.

[AK47]

I have to agree a bit with cow here.

Personally I think the main reason of people leaving is the fact that we we're promised that we would get so much things in a couple of months and then we didn't get it and we had to start over (yeah yeah we've heard this before), but the extension of that is that we're 2 years into RS5 and it's still no proper system to earn money from (sure you can truck 24/7 and you'll get alot of money and you can stand in a casino all day and become a millionaire but where's the fun in that?) The "business-fix with entry fees is a GREAT addon to the server for now. Especially for all of us that worked our asses of in the start of RS5 to buy our dreambizz but ended up with huge loans and no way to pay them back.

[Teddy]

I know how you feel Emmett with the empty promises and sadly we're not doing much better than the former team with those. I didn't anticipate losing most of the Dev team in a matter of a few days due to external conditions. I know now the business logistics system is the most demanded but also one of the most complex. I can tell you that we still do have a developer entirely dedicated to just working on that and as long as there is one developer in the team, that will continue to be the focus.

[Cofiliano]

@Que Okay we get it, you used to be cool on Argonath. If you want to play a "Real Life Simulator", there are a lot ot of servers out there and possibly Argonath will have one too. You can go and play on those servers. For eight years I have been here playing by the Argonath rules and style. That's why we play here, I don't understand why you want to change the things which made Argonath unique.

I don't think you understood his intentions. Its not about making Argonath a RL server, nor a serious roleplay server. Yet a decent roleplay server, in which roleplay rules would apply. That's something most of the Community wants, and supports. We had few things changed in that direction, and like I pointed out, everyone loved those changes, and the roleplay among people including the creativity of those roleplayers were level'd up.

We just need to continue that path, I repeat, making Argonath a decent roleplay server, not srs roleplay as much as not making it a freeroam/light roleplay server.

The biggest problem that people are leaving, is the promises that were given and most of them not being fulfilled before this HQ and Teddy, while you have just two guys actually working on scripts and development, the rest of the people are not even serious, nor have any intention of actually working for the better of the Community, which is why I don't understand why they are still in their positions, instead of letting others.

[Maxy]

To be completely honest what I think one of the issues is, and one of the reasons I have all but stopped playing here, is the fact that RS4 featured an account reset.
Most of the old players lost all the things they worked for years and years to get, and with no compensation. I understand that it probably needed to be done, but the scripts even now are still not fully functional and have little useful and tangible features for careers and job systems.

Another one of the biggest reasons is that back in RS4 and RS3, when people suggested new ideas for scripts that were interesting and could have improved the server, 80 percent of them were denied, flamed, and told to leave the server if they didn't like the scripts by the administration team. When people asked for more criminal scripts, they were told to leave the server if they didn't like it. When people complained about admins abusing their power, being unfair, they were told to leave the server if they didn't like it. When people offered honest opinions on big issues, they were told to leave the server if they didn't like it.

Instead of improving, working with groups, working with criminals to create new scripts and ideas, the story was always "You don't need scripts to roleplay, you don't need scripts to have fun, criminals don't need scripts to work. You don't need money making scripts to have fun. Cops should be more powerful than criminals"

The rules, to this day still haven't even been clearly designed. When we asked the administration team to create a clear set of rules with a clear list of reasonable punishments for it and stop admins making punishments too harsh, or making admins ignore punishments if they knew the guy, we were told to leave the server if we didn't like it.

Guess what, it's prime time right now and there are 20 people on the server. Congratulations, the people who didn't like it took your advice and left to a server that payed more attention to them.

People want money making scripts, people want good criminal scripts, they want a fair and professional administration team, they want their suggestions to be considered and added, they want to have career opportunities and jobs that are worthwhile, and everyone loves earning money. But I suppose that doesn't fit into the great "Argonath Vision" that killed this server.

[Cyril]

So if we give 20 millions to every  players, server would be full.

[Ivan_MC]

I have to agree a bit with cow here.

If you read this carefully it sound strange.

All of you who talk shit about Que, I hope your keyboard burns. He was atleast trying to make the player count bigger and making some real improvement. Ask yourselfe what have you done? Just sit, relax and talk shit here. No one is trying to make Argonath a RL:RP server, you just have to improve things to make the server look more like 21st century. Simple exemple is the fishing scrirpt. Because I am playing only on Argonath, recently a friend of mine told me that you can actualy go on fishing and on hunting on SAMP. I didn't believe him so I decided to go and check that. I was amazed by those scripts and didn't had no clue about them. The point is that this is one of many scripts that can open possibility of new and interesting type of RP. And now you might say: "Why you need scripts when you can RP that?" -Well don't you think that it would be more cool and more interesting if you could actualy go with boat and take out a rod and actually catch fish, rather than just going there with boat and doing /me throws the rod in the lake. ( while nothing happens visually? ) ? This is why you are not getting new players, everyone want improvemants, everyone new that opens SAMP for the first time is looking for some cool thing he can do while wasting his time on a old game. And when he come to our server, what he have to see? Nothing. And about the trucking script. You all moaning about that script but actualy that is the only interesting thing that a new player would like to try here. When I came back to play again, I actually came back because IRL friend ( Antonello ) showed me the trucking script and I tought that is so cool and very interesting ( it was like a game developed inside a real game ). I know that you are adding the trucking script into the new business script and that sound so cool and can't wait to try it. But I am so against removing it completely. You just need more script like that and then you will have to expect some improvement and moving from 0position.

[AK47]

I know how you feel Emmett with the empty promises and sadly we're not doing much better than the former team with those.

This was mainly towards the ones before the current devteam, we've gotten more from you the last months then we ever got from the others under over a years time. And I do understand that of course the old devteam had their reasons "to be slow" but I think that you shouldn't promise things then

So if we give 20 millions to every  players, server would be full.

Tbh, yeah, maybe not 20 millions but you get the idea.

[Pedro.]

So if we give 20 millions to every  players, server would be full.

Your posts are always so meaningful.

[TruthSvensson]

All of you who talk shit about Que, I hope your keyboard burns.

That's some tumblr attitude.

[Cyril]

Tbh, yeah, maybe not 20 millions but you get the idea.

Yeah I got the idea. People want money and that's all.

[Luke]

Yeah I got the idea. People want money and that's all.

Sad to say it but its the truth we lost alot of people due to that move over of RS4 to 5. 

[Khm]

Actually it's good, we lost the players who just come to buy weapons, room around SA, kill everyone, run from the cops 24/7 just because they had millions and don't know where they want to waste their money in. Loyal players are still around and we even reached 130 players in RS5.

[Brian]

Yeah I got the idea. People want money and that's all.

It's not really that people want money. But people are playing a game.  They're doing stuff and they want to get rewarded for it. After all this is an RPG, people role-play, reinact real life in some way. If people buy something, or work for something and get little to no reward, that demotivates people. Yes, of course this is a game, we shouldn't worry about money. But then again, that's what you could say on a DM, or stunt server. Money in a role-play server is rather vital, and it'd be nice if there's a proper way for people to earn it if they invest money in to it themselves too.