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Improving SAFD

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Reply #45 on: September 02, 2015, 01:03:09 pm
Makala is exactly one of those people in a high ranked position with a horrific activity. Steven made EMS more attractive and it was fairly active. I rather see Steven returning to the ranks as he was a motivated member who did a lot for the group.
And about SAFD... I've been in it for about 2 months but have yet to be even approached for the first academy stage. They promised me that they were working on it back then, However I have yet to see any progress being made. Being entirely honest, Besides =AVt=Massi there isn't anyone who is organising things.
Steven was given a chance to improve things while Makala was away dealing with RL problems, and for awhile he was doing a good job. That being said, his removal was not invalid, and it is not something that needs to be discussed here.

Edit: Disregard the previous part I removed. It seems your account was somehow missed on the member's list. I'll have Allison contact you.



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Reply #46 on: September 02, 2015, 05:27:23 pm
I would also like to point out that most of the people here complaining have either been fired from one of the previously-mentioned groups, have notified absolutely no leadership of perceived issues, and/or have not once joined either group to help out with the situation. If no one is willing to help, what do you expect leadership to do? We can't lead those who don't want to follow...
Are you kidding me? Steven and I have outlined issues plenty of times and all we were given was some crap answers and never were given any real results.



We tried to help, but with certain in their positions, it only made it more difficult.  Anyway, change needs to occur, and if that involves server leadership than so be it.



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Reply #47 on: September 03, 2015, 12:21:46 am
Are you kidding me? Steven and I have outlined issues plenty of times and all we were given was some crap answers and never were given any real results.



We tried to help, but with certain in their positions, it only made it more difficult.  Anyway, change needs to occur, and if that involves server leadership than so be it.
Don't worry it's how things go around here..
Today we had a MVA and we call FD for a wounded person, when he arrived he was more interested on the man's vehicle then on the wounded person..

FD Needs to be improved ASAP.


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Reply #48 on: September 03, 2015, 12:26:19 am
Don't worry it's how things go around here..
Today we had a MVA and we call FD for a wounded person, when he arrived he was more interested on the man's vehicle then on the wounded person..

FD Needs to be improved ASAP.
Not everyone you see on fire duty is in SAFD. We have no control over those who aren't in SAFD.



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Reply #49 on: September 03, 2015, 01:24:38 am
My suggestion to improve SAFD is by highering the reward for doing a big mission by yourself, considering the playercount had decreased a lot.



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Reply #50 on: September 03, 2015, 02:36:10 am
Are you kidding me? Steven and I have outlined issues plenty of times and all we were given was some crap answers and never were given any real results.



We tried to help, but with certain in their positions, it only made it more difficult.  Anyway, change needs to occur, and if that involves server leadership than so be it.
Flaming people behind their backs is not outlining issues. Just because I'm not in the game all the time doesn't mean I don't know what is going on.

As I told you before, the only way you will ever get your position back in EMS is by applying and earning it. Server leadership has no authority over private groups, contrary to what you may assume.

My suggestion to improve SAFD is by highering the reward for doing a big mission by yourself, considering the playercount had decreased a lot.
Unfortunately that would lead to the same greed issues we had with players before when Fire Missions were the easiest way to get a lot of money quickly.

Don't worry it's how things go around here..
Today we had a MVA and we call FD for a wounded person, when he arrived he was more interested on the man's vehicle then on the wounded person..

FD Needs to be improved ASAP.
If you see someone being negligent in their duties during an emergency, make sure to report it on ARFD Forums with some evidence, or to any Command Staff member in-game as it happens. Our abilities to handle non-SAFD personnel are very limited, but there are some things we can do.



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Reply #51 on: September 03, 2015, 03:43:05 am
Flaming people behind their backs is not outlining issues. Just because I'm not in the game all the time doesn't mean I don't know what is going on.

As I told you before, the only way you will ever get your position back in EMS is by applying and earning it. Server leadership has no authority over private groups, contrary to what you
1) Flaming people has nothing to do with the issues Steven and I have outlined. Not sure what you're talking about there.
2) Steven and I are never going to apply back with the current people in leadership, and i highly recommend others don't apply too - no one deserves to be treated the way steven and i were.



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Reply #52 on: September 03, 2015, 08:03:05 am
I thought this topic was made for suggestions to improve SAFD.


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Reply #53 on: September 03, 2015, 10:21:47 am
I thought this topic was made for suggestions to improve SAFD.
Ideed!
But from what I've heard the main problem comes from the leadership.. And that is whats being talked about here.


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Reply #54 on: September 03, 2015, 02:16:28 pm
Unfortunately that would lead to the same greed issues we had with players before when Fire Missions were the easiest way to get a lot of money quickly.

I don't know about greed but why not? At least this way people will be attracted to being a fireman. I'm sure the majority would RP along with ARFD members.

Better than nothing, imo.



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Reply #55 on: September 03, 2015, 02:21:47 pm
I don't know about greed but why not? At least this way people will be attracted to being a fireman. I'm sure the majority would RP along with ARFD members.

Better than nothing, imo.

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Reply #56 on: September 03, 2015, 02:30:43 pm
I don't know about greed but why not? At least this way people will be attracted to being a fireman. I'm sure the majority would RP along with ARFD members.

Better than nothing, imo.
Because greed doesn't make roleplay. Before trucking was added, people heavily abused the Fire Missions without roleplaying to get quick cash in large amounts. That is why the developers lowered the rewards repeatedly.

Ye instead of 0 Firemans.
I would love to know where you get this information from.



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Reply #57 on: September 03, 2015, 02:51:43 pm
Because greed doesn't make roleplay. Before trucking was added, people heavily abused the Fire Missions without roleplaying to get quick cash in large amounts. That is why the developers lowered the rewards repeatedly.


I would love to know where you get this information from.
I and many others that were not part of the SAFD used to RP after missions, so that people wouldn't sit there AFK. I recall Pingster even organizing the firemen so we could all grt a fair amount of reward. Okay, people are greedy, but at least they RP (once in a while). And yeah, on this occassions, sometimes greed made roleplays, because "we" wouldn't accept those who were in the job only for the money and exluded them from their rewards.

I'd suppose he takes the information from In-Game. You should check it sometimes. While you were arguing about your incapability of performing your duties as a leader?, you could've found time to fix SA:MP ( max it takes is an re-install ) and go In-Game.

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Reply #58 on: September 03, 2015, 03:28:12 pm
I'd suppose he takes the information from In-Game. You should check it sometimes. While you were arguing about your incapability of performing your duties as a leader?, you could've found time to fix SA:MP ( max it takes is an re-install ) and go In-Game.
1. If you read above, you would have noticed that I clearly stated several times that Allison_Watters was the Battalion Chief in the server, who is responsible for leading it.
2. Several of the users have been seen in-game. Again, I don't know where this accusation is coming from.
3. My problem with SA:MP is a known Windows 10 bug with no known official fix. Reinstalling doesn't fix everything, contrary to what everyone assumes.
4. This topic is not an excuse to **** on people.



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Reply #59 on: September 03, 2015, 03:43:21 pm
As I told you before, the only way you will ever get your position back in EMS is by applying and earning it. Server leadership has no authority over private groups, contrary to what you may assume.
Server leadership does have that authority when they deem necessary, I am not sure where you are getting your information from. Server leadership have the rights to intervene in any group inside their server. (Example: Gvardia, Stunt Kings)

As for the people constantly moaning about people having to earn their ranks back. I've seen those people do more in the FD, or medic job than most of the 'high command' people, that are barely online and when they're online do nothing with the said group. I am not trying to cause a flame war here, but think about what your group could offer to the server, and not what it could do with you in the head position.



 


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