Improving SAFD

[Brian]

I am trying to find out what is going on, as I said before. This is the first that I'm hearing of continued issues since no one is passing this information along to me.

There is no group representative.
The current 'official' group is useless, as it does nothing that a non-official staff member doesn't.
No one is interested as there's nothing to be done, all ideas get thrown in the bin.
There's no activity.
The command doesn't care about the group.
The command is never in-game.

Does that clear it up?

PS; The EMS commisioner hasn't been seen on the forums since March, and the group has 2 members, where the minimum is 5.

[SugarD]

There is no group representative.
The current 'official' group is useless, as it does nothing that a non-official staff member doesn't.
No one is interested as there's nothing to be done, all ideas get thrown in the bin.
There's no activity.
The command doesn't care about the group.
The command is never in-game.

Does that clear it up?

PS; The EMS commisioner hasn't been seen on the forums since March, and the group has 2 members, where the minimum is 5.

1. The Battalion Chief, Company Chiefs, and Captains are all representatives, just as the Commissioner is. Currently there is a Commissioner, Battalion Chief, and 1 Captain among the ranks. I don't see where you get that from.
2. Which is something I've been trying to overcome for years, yet every single time ideas have been turned down by those developing for or leading the server, or were never implemented when agreed upon.
3. There is a huge ideas topic on ARFD Forums for ANYONE registered on the forum to contribute to. I don't see what you are referring to here.
4. That is among the issues that clearly needs resolving. Thank you for the response.
5. I care about the group. I don't know what is going on with the remaining Command Staff, but I am trying to find out now. Thank you again.
6. Same answer as above regarding the other Command Staff.

As for the EMS thing, it doesn't belong in this topic, but I will look into that shortly. Thank you for letting me know.

[Johan_S]

Are argonath citizens and businessmen's allowed to open groups which in function and priority have the same function of "SAFD" but work in parallel and independent from those institutions? Except the permission from Supreme Court and technical insurance for workers; are we allowed to start similar projects?

[SugarD]

Are argonath citizens and businessmen's allowed to open groups which in function and priority have the same function of "SAFD" but work in parallel and independent from those institutions? Except the permission from Supreme Court and technical insurance for workers; are we allowed to start similar projects?

Edit: You can create unofficial groups if you wish. We have always supported them as long as they don't conflict with the official ones. Some have even gained official status under SAFD before.

[Mark]

I am still seeing complaining, but no actual answers about what the issues are that you guys are talking about...

In 6 pages you didn't realize how SAFD is seen as an inactive group in roleplay and that the Command absence just lowers the mood of its members? When they throw the truth in face you just try to argue that black is white.
Generally speaking ARFD is not involving players into roleplay , except for the the only one i've seen trying to, Massi , and he is "only" a firefighter, command is just sitting doing nothing.
It's time to use all the power in your possession.

[Traser]

I still don't know why small groups with minimum activity need a seperate forum.. it's nonsense, same as 10.000 ranks for 5 active members.

[Brian]

1. The Battalion Chief, Company Chiefs, and Captains are all representatives, just as the Commissioner is. Currently there is a Commissioner, Battalion Chief, and 1 Captain among the ranks. I don't see where you get that from.
2. Which is something I've been trying to overcome for years, yet every single time ideas have been turned down by those developing for or leading the server, or were never implemented when agreed upon.
3. There is a huge ideas topic on ARFD Forums for ANYONE registered on the forum to contribute to. I don't see what you are referring to here.
4. That is among the issues that clearly needs resolving. Thank you for the response.
5. I care about the group. I don't know what is going on with the remaining Command Staff, but I am trying to find out now. Thank you again.
6. Same answer as above regarding the other Command Staff.

As for the EMS thing, it doesn't belong in this topic, but I will look into that shortly. Thank you for letting me know.

1. And where can we find them, when are they going to assist the actual ARFD staff that want to role-play but are new and are unaware of how instead of just showing around with their rank.
2. I do agree that in the past ideas were just ignored. But if you would've paid attention you would've seen that the current developer team actually listens to the players and is assisting official factions (again one of the command activity issues).
3. 2014, really? And all I see there is 'more vehicles', no role-play ideas.
5. If you would've actually cared  you WOULD know what is going on, it currently just looks like you are around for the rank.
6. Remember you also fall under that, and yes I am aware your GTA doesnt work on W10

[Johan_S]

Edit: You can create unofficial groups if you wish. We have always supported them as long as they don't conflict with the official ones. Some have even gained official status under SAFD before.

This would be the best solution.
Everyone who feel that things need to change and government doesn't act to improve to current situation; create your own battalion and structure to light up this important part of roleplay and 1/5 of scripted jobs that our server contains.

[SugarD]

In 6 pages...

I asked regarding the recent complaints. This topic was revived after a period of inactivity during which I thought the issues had been resolved.

I still don't know why small groups with minimum activity need a seperate forum.. it's nonsense, same as 10.000 ranks for 5 active members.

1. Again, EMS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS TOPIC.
2. Private groups can do however they please. Argo specifically allows that by design as long as they don't break the rules. It has always been that way.

1. And where can we find them, when are they going to assist the actual ARFD staff that want to role-play but are new and are unaware of how instead of just showing around with their rank.
2. I do agree that in the past ideas were just ignored. But if you would've paid attention you would've seen that the current developer team actually listens to the players and is assisting official factions (again one of the command activity issues).
3. 2014, really? And all I see there is 'more vehicles', no role-play ideas.
5. If you would've actually cared  you WOULD know what is going on, it currently just looks like you are around for the rank.
6. Remember you also fall under that, and yes I am aware your GTA doesnt work on W10

1. I am the Commissioner. You have found me already. The Battalion Chief is Allison_Watters. The Captain is Jeff_Retwy. You can find them here. I am trying to find out what caused this mess to arise as we speak.
2. I am aware of what they are doing. Contrary to popular belief, I have been in contact with some of them, as has Allison_Watters. Allison has even had several things fixed that were previously granted to us, and later accidentally changed. My point was meant as an overall answer to your question, not as something specific to this very moment in time. My apologies for not clarifying this before.
3. 2014 is the last time someone publicly posted an idea in there. As I said before, anyone is welcome to. I cannot help that others have not come forward with anything new yet, nor do I have control over what gets implemented. I tell people all the time to post their ideas there.
4. I do care. As I said previously, I have to oversee all of the servers as a whole. If a server's leadership isn't reporting issues to me, and no one is coming forward about the issues, I have no way of knowing about them if I am away or busy with focusing on another server. That is why I am surprised that no one has bothered to post about these issues on ARFD Forums. People have had no issue with posting about PD issues on ARPD Forums, so why not post about FD issues on ARFD Forums?
5. I am aware, and I agree with you. It is something I am trying to resolve, but that is also why I'm relying so heavily on the server's leadership to do their jobs properly. I created this group with Rory years ago for people's enjoyment. The last thing I want is for all that work to blow up in my face. That is why I need to know what is going on so I can try to get things resolved.


Again, I encourage anyone who has ideas to post in that topic mentioned before. Anyone and everyone registered on the forum has the ability to post there if they wish. Although I discourage repeating ideas already listed to avoid spam, if you have an alternate version of an idea, feel free to post away. Just remember that it is meant for scripted and/or roleplayed ideas. Things related to structure, recruitment, training, and the like should be put into a new topic.

[Traser]

1. Again, EMS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS TOPIC.
2. Private groups can do however they please. Argo specifically allows that by design as long as they don't break the rules. It has always been that way.

I am talking about ARFD.

[SugarD]

I am talking about ARFD.

It is an official government group, as appointed by the President.

[Traser]

It is an official government group, as appointed by the President.

Who tells you to make a external forum? for those 5 active members, That does not work.
It's exciting to make it, then work in it a few months, then it dies out..

Still you are trying to take control, over something i did not see you doing for a long time, so maybe, make it smaller, easier to use, use a forum topic?

[SugarD]

Who tells you to make a external forum? for those 5 active members, That does not work.
It's exciting to make it, then work in it a few months, then it dies out..

Still you are trying to take control, over something i did not see you doing for a long time, so maybe, make it smaller, easier to use, use a forum topic?

ARFD has existed since 2009. At one point it had over 30 members in SA:MP alone. The President is the one who granted that forum for its exact purpose.

I am not trying to take control over anything. I founded the group with Rory years ago. Gandalf is the one who granted the power I have. I owned the group when it was still private, long before it became an official government group.

[Traser]

ARFD has existed since 2009. At one point it had over 30 members in SA:MP alone. The President is the one who granted that forum for its exact purpose.

In 2009, correct, Though it doesnt work anymore does it? You have 30 members in total on a evening at SA:MP, I would like to see you step of your high horse
and start actually doing something, i have only see you commenting here and moaning, instead i see 0% change on that external forum 0% change in your
behaviour and 0% change of ARFD doing anything positive, roleplay or whatever.

Start doing something, don't rely on others or ideas. Make a forum topic, on forums and actively recruit players there, and go find a solution to fix your GTA SA on W10 issue.

I am not trying to take control over anything. I founded the group with Rory years ago. Gandalf is the one who granted the power I have. I owned the group when it was still private, long before it became an official government group.

Sop saying how you were in control with whoever, You are barely now, but you aren't doing anything, work on it, make yourself proud at actually leading this group.

[Brian]

1. I am the Commissioner. You have found me already. The Battalion Chief is Allison_Watters. The Captain is Jeff_Retwy. You can find them here. I am trying to find out what caused this mess to arise as we speak.

What I ment is, where can we find them in-game. I saw Allison once, and she was a civilian. I don't know who Jeff Retwy is, I saw him on the forums a few times though. Why is it that people just sit there with ranks. If you want to do desk work I suggest you to find a job in-real life that'd let you to, we need you people in-game.