Changes to be made

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Stop this topic, and get ingame.

[Hevar.]

Only if we kept RS4 instead of this unfinshed RS5,

in RS4 we had everything, all type of scripting ALSO /TAXI <--- This has been requested so many times and atill not added,

Davis_Omid did in RS4 not only /taxi he even did /bus /tram /train, like really cmon? And there is no sense to make funny RP bank robbery since LS bank got a bad small interior.....and the maxium prison Mordor is still not finished , which we had alot of RP there in Rs4

I can make a huge list here, but just sgree with me...RS5 got released too early :/ and some changes in RS5 did it worse and made people to leave. This is so sad!

[Devin]

We really do not need to go over the reasons as to why RS5 was pushed out early, it has been stated more than enough times now.

[Khm]

LOL. Are you trying to say that whenever I am IG, I should go to LSAP and help every new player that logs in ? Veterans barrelly have time to go IG cuz you know they are grown now and have more busy life than the one 5-6years ago. They can't RP, take care of business and help new players, simple they don't have time for all that. What the server needs is a proper INTRO when you enter the server for the first time ( register ). You need to be guided in the things you can do to work and make money, because let's face it like 80percents of the new players that logs asks in /p What is the best job to make money?, the other 20percents are either cheaters or DMers ( rule-brakers ). You all talking about Role-Play is the thing to make the new players stay around, let's face it that is pure bullshit. Get back in time when you first time joined Argonath. I bet all of you were either rule-brakers or guided by some friend/member how to make money and you were doing just that. This will make new players stay around now too. One thing is that Admins have to be more kind and more in a talk-mode with the new players when they rule-brake ( warn them, ask them not to do that and similar, not just /ban them without a thing being said ). Second thing is to make one job that can pay off good by working it ( doesn't matter how much you hate money-hungry players, new ones will always want to work and get payed good for that ).  This two things will make new players stay around more, this was my opinion on how to improve the player-base.

Jesus, that's so selfish. As a new player I'd never interact with a robot, I am there to meet with people not a fucking interactive robot. Yes as a veteran you have to help the new players with a detailed introduction, if you will keep thinking like that we will have no SA:MP Argonath anymore.

[Luke]

What was the big difference from the jump from RS4 to RS5?
Hardly nothing if all RS5 has so many scripts what shit on RS4 14x over, the diffrence is everyone is so f**cking money motivated now-days that role-play is a thing of the past, everyone just wants to roll round with 500 properties 500 cars and loads of cash and guns acting to be the big I am, you don't need cash to role-play, imho this is the difference. People left in RS4 because they lost their cash, boo hoo, I for one stayed yes I lost everything yes I contemplated when I went to RS5 but this game aint about cash, its about the experience of friends, I don't join to farm cash, I join to have a laugh with my distant friends, thats why we are all here, no big changes to be made, all the issue is at the moment is everyone has become so distant from everyone, in RS4 I could name half the server as friends, RS5 I can only name a few, a few pop in from RS4 but that's the issue, the reason why I still play and still sit on these forums day in and day out, is for the friendship we all have built with one another within Argonath, the new players don't stay as they just don't have that, they join and feel isolated leave due to the boredom of being alone, yes we have guys join and bam they fit right in, @Kaseem is my prime example, he wouldn't have event thought about SAMP or Argonath if it wasn't for me introducing him and making him feel welcome, the guy who introduced me also did the same and the train follows. Point is the server at the moment ain't getting new players staying due to the fact well, there is no interaction or effort with them, everyone just expects players to join and know the game off the bat, we need to get involved get into the roleplays with the new guys, if it comes down to just going to LS/LVAP and saying "Ayo Welcome" or someshit thats a start, we all started off at that point, and its bloody hard to get started on Argonath, I joined myself and just went straight to the Ammu and began shooting everyone, because thats what everyone knew, it wasn't till my mate, came round to my house (not saying do this) to actully explain how it works, and he brought me to Roleplays etc. and thats where it all started. We cannot just expect a massive change all of sudden we just have to work towards it. Like it or not, we are all one big family.

[Devin]

What was the big difference from the jump from RS4 to RS5?
Hardly nothing if all RS5 has so many scripts what shit on RS4 14x over, the diffrence is everyone is so f**cking money motivated now-days that role-play is a thing of the past, everyone just wants to roll round with 500 properties 500 cars and loads of cash and guns acting to be the big I am, you don't need cash to role-play, imho this is the difference. People left in RS4 because they lost their cash, boo hoo, I for one stayed yes I lost everything yes I contemplated when I went to RS5 but this game aint about cash, its about the experience of friends, I don't join to farm cash, I join to have a laugh with my distant friends, thats why we are all here, no big changes to be made, all the issue is at the moment is everyone has become so distant from everyone, in RS4 I could name half the server as friends, RS5 I can only name a few, a few pop in from RS4 but that's the issue, the reason why I still play and still sit on these forums day in and day out, is for the friendship we all have built with one another within Argonath, the new players don't stay as they just don't have that, they join and feel isolated leave due to the boredom of being alone, yes we have guys join and bam they fit right in, @Kaseem is my prime example, he wouldn't have event thought about SAMP or Argonath if it wasn't for me introducing him and making him feel welcome, the guy who introduced me also did the same and the train follows. Point is the server at the moment ain't getting new players staying due to the fact well, there is no interaction or effort with them, everyone just expects players to join and know the game off the bat, we need to get involved get into the roleplays with the new guys, if it comes down to just going to LS/LVAP and saying "Ayo Welcome" or someshit thats a start, we all started off at that point, and its bloody hard to get started on Argonath, I joined myself and just went straight to the Ammu and began shooting everyone, because thats what everyone knew, it wasn't till my mate, came round to my house (not saying do this) to actully explain how it works, and he brought me to Roleplays etc. and thats where it all started. We cannot just expect a massive change all of sudden we just have to work towards it. Like it or not, we are all one big family.

 

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"Lead by example, and others will follow" @Luke

[Luke]

"Lead by example, and others will follow" @Luke

Couldn't agree more mate.

[Devin]

If there's no welcoming or friendly atmosphere on the server, it leaves no reason for new players to stay on the server. If they walk up to a player who just shoots them, which happens far too often, or that player straight up ignores them then why would they care about staying online?

It's all about the presentation of the players towards others, as well as the atmosphere within the server.

[Khm]

What was the big difference from the jump from RS4 to RS5?
Hardly nothing if all RS5 has so many scripts what shit on RS4 14x over, the diffrence is everyone is so f**cking money motivated now-days that role-play is a thing of the past, everyone just wants to roll round with 500 properties 500 cars and loads of cash and guns acting to be the big I am, you don't need cash to role-play, imho this is the difference. People left in RS4 because they lost their cash, boo hoo, I for one stayed yes I lost everything yes I contemplated when I went to RS5 but this game aint about cash, its about the experience of friends, I don't join to farm cash, I join to have a laugh with my distant friends, thats why we are all here, no big changes to be made, all the issue is at the moment is everyone has become so distant from everyone, in RS4 I could name half the server as friends, RS5 I can only name a few, a few pop in from RS4 but that's the issue, the reason why I still play and still sit on these forums day in and day out, is for the friendship we all have built with one another within Argonath, the new players don't stay as they just don't have that, they join and feel isolated leave due to the boredom of being alone, yes we have guys join and bam they fit right in, @Kaseem is my prime example, he wouldn't have event thought about SAMP or Argonath if it wasn't for me introducing him and making him feel welcome, the guy who introduced me also did the same and the train follows. Point is the server at the moment ain't getting new players staying due to the fact well, there is no interaction or effort with them, everyone just expects players to join and know the game off the bat, we need to get involved get into the roleplays with the new guys, if it comes down to just going to LS/LVAP and saying "Ayo Welcome" or someshit thats a start, we all started off at that point, and its bloody hard to get started on Argonath, I joined myself and just went straight to the Ammu and began shooting everyone, because thats what everyone knew, it wasn't till my mate, came round to my house (not saying do this) to actully explain how it works, and he brought me to Roleplays etc. and thats where it all started. We cannot just expect a massive change all of sudden we just have to work towards it. Like it or not, we are all one big family.

Good job chav, much luv.

[Kaseem]

@Luke thanks for all you done for me.

without Luke this wouldn't had happen the argonath communtiy and samp he was there when I really needed the help in the community and help me make new friends around the world and get me where I am now,

[brian1996]

Jesus, that's so selfish. As a new player I'd never interact with a robot, I am there to meet with people not a f**cking interactive robot. Yes as a veteran you have to help the new players with a detailed introduction, if you will keep thinking like that we will have no SA:MP Argonath anymore.

Since when is it the task for players/veterans to help new players. We don't have to do so, those who do are choosing for it. It's the staff's job to help them, not ours.

[Traser]

If there's no welcoming or friendly atmosphere on the server, it leaves no reason for new players to stay on the server. If they walk up to a player who just shoots them, which happens far too often, or that player straight up ignores them then why would they care about staying online?

Correctly, so YOU as player, you the person that's reading this, don't be like this, but actually teach

"Lead by example, and others will follow"

To finish with this:

It's all about the presentation of the players towards others, as well as the atmosphere within the server.

Stop moaning why, stop caring about your community, your bullshit here kills it, so your family that you cared about will vanish if you all just give up like this..
Start SA:MP, Join the server and START roleplaying, you don't have to.. but you can have fun! you could have fun in RS2, RS3, RS4, you can also in RS5.

[Brian]

Since when is it the task for players/veterans to help new players. We don't have to do so, those who do are choosing for it. It's the staff's job to help them, not ours.

It's the communities job to do so, we ain't forcing you, but there's enough people that don't mind doing it.

[brian1996]

It's the communities job to do so, we ain't forcing you, but there's enough people that don't mind doing it.

Exactly, there's enough people who are willing to volunteer their help to new players but don't go stating that every single player must help them (khm) because some simply don't care.