[ELECTIONS] Mayoral Candidates

[.Mario.]

I'm a big bad wolf now who abuses everything and is corrupt as fuck... simply for trying to help.

[Salmonella]

However the non-admin account was designed specifically to allow users the ability to roleplay freely without having to worry about responding to reports.

Exactly this. The issue however, lies in that it is being used as an ADDITION to all the ranks and positions already claimed on his admin account. He's doing things he normally wouldn't be able to do in RP, had he not had his non-admin account for recreational use.

On one account he is going to have to inspect/vet the mayors, and on the other he is being one. Seems like a pretty obvious conflict to me where enter a situation where he's pretty much judging himself.

The whole "one roleplay character" thing for players is bulshit. This is Argonath, you are permitted to change your RP character freely. I just happen to do it with another account; which I never even use. I haven't logged into [WS]Teddy since like early summer. There is no advantage to this at all. On my EvilTeddy "character" I know of a leak in the FBI; but don't act on it using my Teddy character because he doesn't have evidence of it. So, I see no real advantage.

By this logic you can apply for FBI and get accepted while also being in GSF, AoD and Gvardia. Multiple characters are allowed but they have never been allowed in law enforcement. FBI requires full clearance and in the SAPD you couldn't be involved in a criminal group if you wanted a rank above Senior Officer.

The obvious advantage is that you couldn't do this if you didn't have a non-admin account, is that so hard to get? Apart from that you also have the advantage of vetting yourself and making sure your ''twin brother'' makes it through the selection process.

And Sal, saying it didn't happen a few years ago is funny. I guess you weren't aware the true volume of how often this actually happened. Don't worry, can't blame you for not knowing something people were secretive about. The difference is, I am being fully transparent about it and not hiding it from anyone or in anyway trying to cover it up. You should consider this a good thing.

I bet you knew more about what happened in the admin team 3 years before you became a part of it when you didn't even play on Argonath yet.

The difference is, I am being fully transparent about it and not hiding it from anyone or in anyway trying to cover it up. You should consider this a good thing.

best meme yet

[MrTony]

I just happen to do it with another account

Oh, so you can have multiple personalities within the same account? Well, kind of renders the non-affiliation rule a bit useless doesn't it?

[Teddy]

I bet you knew more about what happened in the admin team 3 years before you became a part of it when you didn't even play on Argonath yet.

Can you tell me the exact date I joined Argonath? I don't think you can because you don't know me. So don't tell me what I do and don't know and when I did and didn't play.

you also have the advantage of vetting yourself and making sure your ''twin brother'' makes it through the selection process.

Except I wouldn't do this. You see, me and you are very different. You would abuse this fact; I don't and wouldn't. This is why we haven't let players yet create multiple accounts for multiple characters. While some can properly hold barriers between their RP characters, most people can't and wouldn't.

[Benn]

The whole "one roleplay character" thing for players is bulshit. This is Argonath, you are permitted to change your RP character freely. I just happen to do it with another account; which I never even use. I haven't logged into [WS]Teddy since like early summer. There is no advantage to this at all. On my EvilTeddy "character" I know of a leak in the FBI; but don't act on it using my Teddy character because he doesn't have evidence of it. So, I see no real advantage.

And Sal, saying it didn't happen a few years ago is funny. I guess you weren't aware the true volume of how often this actually happened. Don't worry, can't blame you for not knowing something people were secretive about. The difference is, I am being fully transparent about it and not hiding it from anyone or in anyway trying to cover it up. You should consider this a good thing.

Yes. This is actually the only reason I applied. When I closed the apps I noticed nobody applied for this city and setup simply to fill the vacancy.

I'm a big bad wolf now who abuses everything and is corrupt as fuck... simply for trying to help. #ArgonathProblems

If you're going to compare having another account and using it for different roleplay purposes with the ability to ban atleast do it right...
"/Ban" is a very restricted command that can be used only in a few situations
Having Another account purpose is to break the tense from the admin duty and have some fun
Using the Non-admin account for another purposes is like using /ban for another situations...

[Mang]

So we shouldn't give admins access to /ban? It is after all a privilege that players don't have.

Without that command admins wouldn't be able to do their duties, whereas you don't need 2 different separate rp characters to do admin duties(if you must have a non admin account atleast you can rp the same character, like the rest of us are forced to do).

The whole "one roleplay character" thing for players is bulshit. This is Argonath, you are permitted to change your RP character freely. I just happen to do it with another account; which I never even use. I haven't logged into [WS]Teddy since like early summer. There is no advantage to this at all.

The problem is you don't need to change your character, you can just make a new one. If I for example wanted to apply for mayor or run a criminal organisation, I would have to leave FBI, while you can remain the director, I guess the rules are different for high ranked administration and organisation members.

P.S.: Nice job spinning that to make yourself look like a victim.

[Teddy]

If you're going to compare having another account and using it for different roleplay purposes with the ability to ban atleast do it right...
"/Ban" is a very restricted command that can be used only in a few situations
Having Another account purpose is to break the tense from the admin duty and have some fun
Using the Non-admin account for another purposes is like using /ban for another situations...

That isn't the point I was trying to make. The point I was trying to make, forgive me for thinking you could comprehend, is that admins are privileged, the entire process of becoming part of the team is having the ability to have additional privileges over players. While, yes, admins are simply players with additional responsibilities; they also do posses additional privileges to facilitate those responsibilities.


If it's such a big deal, as long as someone comes forward today for a LV Mayoral position... I'll give it up. I only wanted to do it as a need, as in there was nobody else when the deadline closed. I had no intentions of getting everyone's panties all bunched up.

[Salmonella]

Can you tell me the exact date I joined Argonath? I don't think you can because you don't know me. So don't tell me what I do and don't know and when I did and didn't play.

It says right here on the forums when you registered. Apart from that you and I both know we go way back to USAA/ADF times when you first joined the community. I know you and I know when you joined. Regardless of that one thing is for sure, you weren't a part of the admin team when I was and therefore you couldn't really have ''known more'' about how stuff went with accounts I was allowed to have at that point in time and how others ''secretely'' use it.

This is of course assuming confidentiality was kept within the administration team, which I'm sure it was, that is why I'm telling you what you do and didn't know, but hey, maybe I was wrong about that?

Except I wouldn't do this. You see, me and you are very different. You would abuse this fact; I don't and wouldn't. This is why we haven't let players yet create multiple accounts for multiple characters. While some can properly hold barriers between their RP characters, most people can't and wouldn't.

I didn't even say abuse, thanks for assuming I'd abuse your rights though, very mature. I also like how you're implying you're any better than any other community member that would have access to a second account with different roleplay abilities, which is pretty unrelated since the only argument you could give on this is that they're going to do money transfers or something.

What I said is that you're still Tedd and you're going to roleplay TWO characters that have to work together and one of them pretty much being in charge of whether or not the other can go through with his mayor campaign. It would be really great if you the first person in the world to be a genius at mastering schizophrenia so you could somehow forget you are the ''twin brother'', but let's not pretend.

Let's just say I don't think Mr. Theodore Rosso will have any issues passing the FBI vetting stage.

[MrTony]

forgive me for thinking you could comprehend

Is being condescending a self triggered defense mechanism that you always use while arguing?

[Salmonella]

If it's such a big deal, as long as someone comes forward today for a LV Mayoral position... I'll give it up. I only wanted to do it as a need, as in there was nobody else when the deadline closed. I had no intentions of getting everyone's panties all bunched up.

Your name: =AV=Salmonella (Salvatore Monella)
The city you wish to run for: Las Venturas
Your campaign slogan: Argonath Awakes
Your campaign manager (if applicable): [WS]Frank_Neville (Frank Neville)
Any mission statement or short introduction (less than 300 words):

Mr. Salvatore Monella is aged 59, was born and raised in a town in the middle of Bone County that goes by the name of Fort Carson. Salvatore, whose ancestor migrated out of Italy into the United States of Argonath before the civil war, always knew he wanted to be a civil servant. He finished sheriff training aged 21, and was a deputy in Fort Carson for a year. Soon thereafter he felt that the quiet town of Fort Carson no longer needed him, and requested to be transfered to Los Santos, where he rose to the rank of SAPD Sergeant in the 80s. Through an internal application process, he was eventually transfered to the United States of Argonath Army as a Captain, in the lure of the cold war. Eventually he became what most people nowadays remember him as: General Salvatore Monella. Having retired from law enforcement two years ago, Salvatore now wishes to serve the citizens of Argonath in a different department, after founding the National Socialist Argonath Labor Party, more suitable for his age.

It's a principle thing, though.

[TheGreasyChopper]

 Teddy, you're just starting up another endeavor you will finish after a long time, if even finish it at all. Don't you have enough things to worry about? Scripts that should be updated? Systems to be added? 3:RL? And you want to become a mayor on top of all this?

 Forgive me if I don't fall for your "I'm too busy" card next time you play it...

[Teddy]

It says right here on the forums when you registered. Apart from that you and I both know we go way back to USAA/ADF times when you first joined the community. I know you and I know when you joined.

So the forums dictates the entire community? Interesting. Let's get a few things clear. You don't know me at all and I only joined SA:MP back in the USAA/ADF times, not the community.

Regardless of that one thing is for sure, you weren't a part of the admin team when I was and therefore you couldn't really have ''known more'' about how stuff went with accounts I was allowed to have at that point in time and how others ''secretely'' use it.

You are right in a few ways. I wasn't apart of the admin team and when I wasn't a developer, no I didn't know it was going on anymore than you didn't. However once I became a developer during the RS4 era, I had access to everything and yes I am a naturally curious person. It was only after that I became aware of how much it took place.

I didn't even say abuse, thanks for assuming I'd abuse your rights though, very mature. I also like how you're implying you're any better than any other community member that would have access to a second account with different roleplay abilities, which is pretty unrelated since the only argument you could give on this is that they're going to do money transfers or something.

you don't need to say abuse, the idea of letting myself allow my other account to special access would be abuse. No need to say it. Actually, you are right, we have no idea how it would turn out.

What I said is that you're still Tedd and you're going to roleplay TWO characters that have to work together and one of them pretty much being in charge of whether or not the other can go through with his mayor campaign. It would be really great if you the first person in the world to be a genius at mastering schizophrenia so you could somehow forget you are the ''twin brother'', but let's not pretend.

It's all about control and knowing what to act on. As I said, I know of a leak in the FBI that Mr. Theodore knows of. However, the director doesn't know so that person is untouched, even got a promotion after knowing. Entirely unaffected by the knowledge. Could you do that? Honestly?

Let's just say I don't think Mr. Theodore Rosso will have any issues passing the FBI vetting stage.

Let's just say you are wrong.

[Benn]

That isn't the point I was trying to make. The point I was trying to make, forgive me for thinking you could comprehend, is that admins are privileged, the entire process of becoming part of the team is having the ability to have additional privileges over players. While, yes, admins are simply players with additional responsibilities; they also do posses additional privileges to facilitate those responsibilities.


If it's such a big deal, as long as someone comes forward today for a LV Mayoral position... I'll give it up. I only wanted to do it as a need, as in there was nobody else when the deadline closed. I had no intentions of getting everyone's panties all bunched up.

You're cute when you try to offend me...
From now on we should all call you god, you would do whatever you want without considering other's opinion, yeah I am sure that's something people would love to know about a mayoral candidate, enjoy abusing your privileges and good luck with your campaign mate

[Teddy]

Teddy, you're just starting up another endeavor you will finish after a long time, if even finish it at all. Don't you have enough things to worry about? Scripts that should be updated? Systems to be added? 3:RL? And you want to become a mayor on top of all this?

 Forgive me if I don't fall for your "I'm too busy" card next time you play it...

You are right, I am far to busy. and I honestly don't have the time to do it. However, if nobody else was available I simply would have to suck it up and deal with it to ensure things keep going forward. That's how I am. Sorry for being me.

It's a principle thing, though.

You posted after the deadline, after I did. It was drowned in everyone venting their frustrations. Very well, I withdraw from the race as I'll let your be counted into the final draft.

[Teddy]

You're cute when you try to offend me...
From now on we should all call you god, you would do whatever you want without considering other's opinion, yeah I am sure that something people would love to know about a mayoral candidate, enjoy abusing your privileges and good luck with your campaign mate

Not trying to offend anyone. If you got offended, that's your fault and I do apologize. I'm no god. I don't do whatever I want otherwise we'd have a very different conversation going on. I love when people say I don't consider other's opinions. Yep, look at all the recent changes that people in the past ignored that I decided to listen to and implement. Ignorance is bliss.