[ELECTIONS] Mayoral Candidates

[Mikal]

So much bickering going on over all this mayor stuff.

[Johan_S]

So much bickering going on over all this mayor stuff.

What makes the game more interesting and entertaining for all players, as long as rules are being followed, as long as no one takes the things more than just roleplay, as long as we be friends with each other outside-inside.

[Mikal]

What makes the game more interesting and entertaining for all players, as long as rules are being followed, as long as no one takes the things more than just roleplay, as long as we be friends with each other outside-inside.

Except it's all being taken out of roleplay to a point where everyone is just b!tching about each other.

[Johan_S]

Except it's all being taken out of roleplay to a point where everyone is just bad girling about each other.

I don't think so, beside few individuals which made some mistakes in the previous posts, I think otherwise. This is the "home" of the transition, and after all everyone which is commenting here is voicing the pure love that they have for community, to go forward more and more. Starting from the main writers finishing to the readers.

[Teddy]

The FBI will take 1m from all candidates during the course of the interview process. These funds will be examined by the FBI and will be returned when elections begin. You will then use these funds to campaign and rally support during the period provided. The elections beginning date and time span; along with news on additional political roles will be announced Sunday.

Mayoral candidates; please begin considering candidates for your City Clerk and Tax Collector position. You can have at most 3 clerks and at most 1 collector.

[SkyHawk]

I can't say this was an unexpected move from ''the other side'', for the public this news won't come as a shock either, considering your background as director of Theodore Enterprises as well as being the financial manager of SLB, which pretty much completes the triangle. Apart from that there is no reason why you shouldn't have signed up for candidature, except that this alliance is controlled by one person, whom for a while now has looked like the center to the public as well. Everyone knows very well that you're one of the most inactive players in the server, for whatever reason, yet you still decide to run for mayor. Must've been a very strong individually made decision, right?


Regardless of that, I wish you good luck. I hope the FBI will not just check the criminal records of a candidate, but also the origin of the campaign money. The investors must reveal the resources of the money to those institutions responsible for making things fair for all citizens of Argonath.

You're right I was in a directorship position with Theodore Enterprise, however don't remove key elements of what my position actually entailed. I wasn't involved in the important decision making that other individuals were responsible for. I was solely in charge of handling all of the legal aspects that pertained to the company, working closely with the Argonath Judicial System. So in that sense you're right, it shouldn't be a surprise that someone like myself who has experience working in the both the public and private sector run for a public office that involves important political policy decisions.

Second of all, you're correct my ties to the Santos Liberal Party are made as public information, there isn't any hiding of that information, hence the reason why it was made publicly available to everyone. I'm not sure what significance you think any of that plays in my decision to run for mayor. You're basing your arguments off of my success, but you also fail to realize that I was born and raised in Las Venturas, that has been my character story for 6 years since I started in Argonath, it makes sense for me to run for a city that I've identified with.

You of all people have no room to discuss inactivity, or activity purposes at all. The fact, that I am making the time and the effort to put forth to this election which is reflected in my activity, juggling all the life events I have shows how serious I am about pursuing this. If this wasn't something that I was truly interested in I wouldn't waste my time bickering with you, and your parties policies. But as you stated good luck to you as well, may the best man suitable for the job win the chair.

Joseph Hawk

[Mikal]

How come they must have 1mil in order to run though? Seems a bit restrictive if you ask me.

[Teddy]

How come they must have 1mil in order to run though? Seems a bit restrictive if you ask me.

This was already covered in the beginning of the topic. No need in bringing it back up.

[Mikal]

This was already covered in the beginning of the topic. No need in bringing it back up.

I see that now, but campaigns don't have to cost a single penny... You could literally do all your advertising and such on social media and through low cost public events, obviously the people with the money will usually do the best, but 'realistically' you don't need to be rich to run for anything or to start a campaign, it shouldn't be wealth that counts, it should be who the 'public' support, this just seems very roleplay restrictive if you ask me.

[Marcel]

I see that now, but campaigns don't have to cost a single penny... You could literally do all your advertising and such on social media and through low cost public events, obviously the people with the money will usually do the best, but 'realistically' you don't need to be rich to run for anything or to start a campaign, it shouldn't be wealth that counts, it should be who the 'public' support, this just seems very roleplay restrictive if you ask me.

Good suggestion actually. Maybe the Dutch approach is a good one: in order to be put on the voting ballot, you need to produce evidence of supporters (usually signatures) in every voting district of the country. If you get enough signatures, you can run for whatever the election is for.

[Mikal]

Good suggestion actually. Maybe the Dutch approach is a good one: in order to be put on the voting ballot, you need to produce evidence of supporters (usually signatures) in every voting district of the country. If you get enough signatures, you can run for whatever the election is for.

That sounds good actually, if people were elected in through signatures on one of their own campaign topics it would be easy to see who has the most support and wether or not their supporters are valid, though roleplay campaigns should be completed before signatures are allowed to flow in.

The current system seems too 'celebrity', or almost American, (no offence to America, but your politicians are over-idolised celebs) where the best way to get in is to sell yourself (literally), in many democratic countries politicians are not rich celebrities, they are people who got where they are through the public supporting their views and actions.

[Teddy]

I see that now, but campaigns don't have to cost a single penny... You could literally do all your advertising and such on social media and through low cost public events, obviously the people with the money will usually do the best, but 'realistically' you don't need to be rich to run for anything or to start a campaign, it shouldn't be wealth that counts, it should be who the 'public' support, this just seems very roleplay restrictive if you ask me.

We're not changing the system now. There is actually a restrictive element so that way not everyone and their 3rd cousins are running for mayor. As realistically you don't hear about the poor candidates because they can't campaign and advertise. The 1m is a measure to ensure that the player is established, committed, and able to fund a notable campaign within the state. In addition, sure people could've started campaigning almost a month ago without the 1m requirement; they could've done fundraisers it's not my fault nobody took the consideration to do this since fundraisers are how most "realistic" political figures earn money to fuel their campaign.

[Axison]

I agree with Mikal here, despite being an American

[Mikal]

We're not changing the system now. There is actually a restrictive element so that way not everyone and their 3rd cousins are running for mayor. As realistically you don't hear about the poor candidates because they can't campaign and advertise. The 1m is a measure to ensure that the player is established, committed, and able to fund a notable campaign within the state. In addition, sure people could've started campaigning almost a month ago without the 1m requirement; they could've done fundraisers it's not my fault nobody took the consideration to do this since fundraisers are how most "realistic" political figures earn money to fuel their campaign.

Not everyone will run for mayor in my eyes, the same as not everyone wants to open and run their own group, not many people know enough about politics to have a campaign even worthy of bothering, if 'campaigns' were seen as groups which required tidy topics in City Hall and a certain numbers of members/supporters before a topic could be posted I think that would remove the element of everyone spamming different campaigns, right now it doesn't look like there's enough competition for the super rich who currently do have campaigns going.

[Teddy]

right now it doesn't look like there's enough competition for the super rich who currently do have campaigns going.

because nobody did fundraising other than one person I know of. Lawrence did and I gave him a quarter of the minimum. Those who were truly wanting to achieve this could've done so by honestly what is democracy in today's standards... making deals with the super elite to get backing and funding.