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IV:MP Needs to Improve.

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on: September 19, 2015, 10:30:39 pm
Hello fellow argonathians and IV:MP players. As you may know IV:MP is falling apart these days, as there aren't many players playing as there used to be. Let me also start this by making the point saying this is my opinion in why it needs to improve. Some of you may agree and some may disagree about some of these points.

Player Activity.

Player activity is not what it used to be. Many old players that were active a few months ago and years ago don't even exist here anymore. I do realize that this has to do with their life problems, getting banned, ect. But, in my opinion this isn't the main reason.

Rulebreakers.

There are lots of rulebreakers on IV:MP now. This has to do with new players not being helped by players who know the server and how it is played. I have to say, I am guilty of this as well, as I have not had any intention of helping them, but I try my best. I am hoping to improve myself and others in helping the new players.

Administration.

While the Administration is very good on IV:MP, I think it has much to improve. To my experience, most of the rulebreakers don't understand NOT to do something because a administrator and or moderator is not on to help them understand how the server is played. What I think should happen is replace current inactive administration with new ones that are willing to help, instead of adding more and them becoming inactive. In the past, this was never a issue but, these days its even rare to get a moderator on the server to watch over and keep everything in check.

Scripts and Server Reliability.

The scripts on IV:MP are very well done by our developer, Armelin. But it seems now-a-days there is always an issue with the server / script that breaks the server and causes a administrator+ to come on and restart the server, which wastes their time and players time. What I think need to happen is recruit some more scripters and or developers to keep the server in correct order to prevent these kind of things from happening.

Some of you may agree about these things, and some of you may disagree. If you have anything to add or would like to talk about what you agree and or disagree about, leave a reply below.

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Reply #1 on: September 19, 2015, 10:54:06 pm
Lets face it, GTA IV is kinda worst MP then any other GTA MP, plus the client isnt any better.

After almost 2 years now, i done pretty much all i can in IVMP, my old friends are inactive with some exeptions, all family members are fighting there own battles in life and cant find much time for games, but are on Skype pretty much daily, i my self atm cant spare more then 1h daily for IVMP, Time waits for none.

While i had far less obligations and work i used to play a lot, now well at 21 life hits you hard, work, college and investments in future (language classes. seminars) take all the free time i have.

Thats just how it is, IVMP is getting old so are the veteran players, hope you guys who are still free to play games will make most of your gaming and motivate some new players to stick around.
Pretty much its all up to active players atm, will or wont IVMP grow.


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Reply #2 on: September 19, 2015, 11:19:11 pm
Player activity, I tried all i can to get my friends back on , NisanZ, Stefanos, Ramis, George, Ninda, Alot more. First common thing i heard was Server is boring, no much players on , if each single player said that , no one would ever go online , other than that , Real Life is the problem , alot of my Lucchese Veteran friends ,  other players, Real Life problems , cant find free time to play.and The AD-Team is trying its best to get new players.

Rule breakers, Everytime i see one , i try my best to explain to him , to let him stay on the server.

administration, I agree with you, we need new Admins to replace inactive ones, The chaos of new players in the server with no admins online is just unbelievable, special thanks to Brian Gale and Nicole , MAne Lucchese.


Scripts , i cant say anything on armelin, Great guy, But i dont think we need more scripters , but why not ? if its better, sure.



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Reply #3 on: September 20, 2015, 08:16:24 am
From what I've seen, most of the players who used to be active left the server because of various other reasons. Also, ever heard of the idiom "Too much of a good thing"? If you have too much of a good thing, something pleasant becomes unpleasant because you have too much of it. Just like how IV:MP is the food you're so sick/tired of eating everyday. Unfortunately, most humans will never be satisfied with one thing and won't stick with it for long as it is in our nature to easily move on. Also, it is inevitable that the server will always have rule breakers. For now, I don't really see them as a primary concern for IV:MP's disintegration although we have always tried to help them out as much as we can. As for the administration and scripts reliability.. it is easier said than done. Dedication is hard to find for those sort of duties. And the reason for the server issues nowadays is because there are way too many scripts for it to handle. Another thing which is inevitable is individual inactivity. Just like every other player, admins will also lose interest in helping the players someday; some earlier than others as each person has their own lives to mind.





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Reply #4 on: September 20, 2015, 09:31:43 am
I Agree with the Adminastration Point as well
Almost the Adminastration members are inactive as i have seen ,It's not logical :(
Also Busy IRL And such things.... Dosen't make a sense, You got the right to serve the server then Do !



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Reply #5 on: September 20, 2015, 09:42:56 am
I Agree with the Adminastration Point as well
Almost the Adminastration members are inactive as i have seen ,It's not logical :(
Also Busy IRL And such things.... Dosen't make a sense, You got the right to serve the server then Do !
Its not a right, its a duty.
Also we do that when we can, anyone saying we don't is a lier.


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Reply #6 on: September 20, 2015, 09:45:36 am
Main issue for me is school, i've got to focus on it much more this year. I can still play up to two hours per day but to be honest i find it boring when the only thing that happens is a bunch of players provoking each other on the main chat for every stupid reason. In terms fo RP, i tried different things without success, it always been like that. Take an infernus/comet/sultan rs and start speeding all over the map, if you're that lucky someone will pull you over and then you can evade. I have seen regulars who have no idea of how to roleplay and when i tried to approach them they said "Sorry im not good, i can't rp". Well that's so wrong, we used to have some groups roleplaying, where are they gone now? One is banned because of the leader, of course back to that time someone thought that also the members of it were a trouble and decided to shut it down. Another group, APT is gone after Victor's departure, they have been roleplaying alot and welcoming lot of newbies, they did a good job imho.  What are we doing now? We're showing newcomers that speeding infront of the cops and not even trying to roleplay with them is a good thing.
Some players went inactive also due this, there is no roleplay scene, most of those who claim they're still roleplaying are doing something else. I've heard many stories, it always been like this, there always been someone ruining every scene (a recent example few days ago when i got approached by undercover cops and a guy straight carkilled us). We need serious people to teach the newcomers, it's not all about speeding around the map trying to get police attention and then evading and once captured trying to rape F instead of roleplaying as injured or captured. You don't always win, this is a roleplay server or we forgot it? I remember our approach , as group, we were roleplaying with everyone but lot of times we were facing this big issue that is main concept of what is a roleplay and what is a "reason to kill you the fastest way possible".
We have some groups today but tbh i find them weird. A group of bikers does not go around in a comet or patriot, they try to stick as much possible on bikes, don't they? We used to use only gangster vehicles in SFC, we sure had fast vehicles but we were "obliged" to use the cars that suit our roleplay at most! Try to do something different, stop the continuos speeding and reckless driving and the shootouts with lame reasons, we have had enough. We have many players joining even though ivmp client is almost dead, let's show them the correct way to play. See ya soon


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Reply #7 on: September 21, 2015, 12:27:30 pm
Agree For me  :cop:



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Reply #8 on: September 21, 2015, 12:31:42 pm
Well .. Very Agree in the (Administration Stuffs ) , I saw sometimes there .. that they cant explain the rules to new players ..( DOnt know how to Speak English ) , They just Kicked it .. !  :mad: :mad:



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Reply #9 on: September 21, 2015, 12:36:39 pm
Well .. Very Agree in the (Administration Stuffs ) , I saw sometimes there .. that they cant explain the rules to new players ..( DOnt know how to Speak English ) , They just Kicked it .. !  :mad: :mad:
Communicating with non-English persons is very hard. They break a rule, they get frozen and talked to. But because they don't understand why they are frozen and what the admin says, they often start flaming (which apparently they can in English) and then they get kicked. So that is a difficult matter if you cant understand each other. Do you know another way how that would need to be handled?



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Reply #10 on: September 21, 2015, 02:03:44 pm
Ok, So just to remind everyone

Administrators are not paid for their work its their will to help and we should all be gratefull for their work, Its quite rare seeing them offline tbh.

Ok So IV:MP all it needs is RP Its so boring lately i didn't see a Roleplay for 3+ Months so far.  :(
And Yes im inactive , Cause noone is Roleplaying.

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Reply #11 on: September 21, 2015, 02:54:42 pm
@SuchAnAngel , If you cant explain to the non-english rule breaker, How do you expect the Administration Staff to do it? do you think they have super communication skills? They know their mother language and the 2nd Language which is Probably English, So As Argonath Uses english as its well known language, Admins cant do anything about it, they are not forced to learn languages or something , they try their best , The admins we have are Perfect for their Duty ( even  while not pair too). We need RP, We dont need to only come up to New comers saying what things are, we need to show them how too. We Need Real RPs



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Reply #12 on: September 21, 2015, 03:13:31 pm
i totally agree Mr.Kewl .


Communicating with non-English persons is very hard. They break a rule, they get frozen and talked to. But because they don't understand why they are frozen and what the admin says, they often start flaming (which apparently they can in English) and then they get kicked. So that is a difficult matter if you cant understand each other. Do you know another way how that would need to be handled?

then Mr.James , if you see language as important thing? why recuiting A-team members is not based on `` how many languages you speak `` then?




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Reply #13 on: September 21, 2015, 03:57:10 pm
i totally agree Mr.Kewl .


then Mr.James , if you see language as important thing? why recuiting A-team members is not based on `` how many languages you speak `` then?

No, Its not like that, Argonath has A communication language that it choose that is english, The A-Team Staff should not know many langauges as the server itself uses english.All the admins we have are the right people for their duties.So The problem is not from the admins.And English is a well known language world wide, in addition, Argonath cant Recruit a whole new Admins just because one out of each ten players does not know english Well. and that happens Really Rare.

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Reply #14 on: September 21, 2015, 04:00:20 pm
i totally agree Mr.Kewl .


then Mr.James , if you see language as important thing? why recuiting A-team members is not based on `` how many languages you speak `` then?

You expect us to accept admins based on their langauge?



 


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