Cops and robber's Server.

[Camels100s]

Hello all guys, i'm again here to talk about some servers "problems". First of all, is that we have a Scripter/Admin team focused on Police and other Law Enforcement Agencies, How you can notice by EMS Forum and EMS IG group, if that was not a Cops and Robber's based server HQ would take measures, same would have done for SAFD if i was not here to "try" managing it with SugarD. Second, Everytime somebody ask for something "new" about SAFD/EMS the answer is always the same "No" "not now" "We're busy" But, if i ask somethign new for police, after a week, max 2 week you will see that idea added IG. Third, have you took a look on /wear? Why it's full of Criminal/Police items and not for example an AED? or a SCBA pack?. fourth, after centuries of gaming, /ladder was removed due some technical issues.. really? These are only 4 examples, maybe is this a Cops and Robber server? Cause i only see Mafia members and Police officers. AND.. i see a lot of interest about Mafia/Police by the administration then EMS/SAFD. Oh, that's my opinion of course, i don't wanna offend nobody, just telling my opinion. thanks for reading.

[Celso]

To be honest, I do agree EMS should get a big more attention.
But the bellow post is not even correct, make sure you don't spread false information...

But, if i ask somethign new for police, after a week, max 2 week you will see that idea added IG

[Devin]

/ladder was removed due some technical issues.. really?

Sounds like you think it was removed because we thought "Hey, what shall we do today? Oh I know! Let's remove ladders that will be brilliant!" when they were actually removed to assist with server stability and to address a lag issue caused by a bug in the coding for the ladder portion of script.

[Camels100s]

Sounds like you think it was removed because we thought "Hey, what shall we do today? Oh I know! Let's remove ladders that will be brilliant!" when they were actually removed to assist with server stability and to address a lag issue caused by a bug in the coding for the ladder portion of script.

And what about the other 3 Examples? I can make an endless list lol, just check the Changelogs and see how much effort is done about SAPD and how much is done for other Emergency services..

[Dean.]

Because the activity of the other groups are larger. You're the only one who actually roleplays EMS/Fireman. Sure there are some people who do it from time-to-time but 98 percent is in it for a quick buck.

[Devin]

As we are on the topic of EMS, I am sorry to inform you but SugarD was given two weeks recently to resolve the member issue regarding the EMS group in-game which was no resolved.
As a result of that the EMS group was actually deleted from the database around a month ago.

If a group should want actual support as EMS seems to want, a presence needs to be displayed to show it is worthy of having custom script support.

[Camels100s]

As we are on the topic of EMS, I am sorry to inform you but SugarD was given two weeks recently to resolve the member issue regarding the EMS group in-game which was no resolved.
As a result of that the EMS group was actually deleted from the database around a month ago.

If a group should want actual support as EMS seems to want, a presence needs to be displayed to show it is worthy of having custom script support.

I took EMS as an example, i'm talking about GENERAL. By the way already heard about it, unfortunally.. EMS it's dead now, hope for a sort of... well, "rise" maybe?.

[Huntsman]

Well maybe that's because the PD has capable leadership while the ARFD does not?

[Hevar.]

FBI and SAPD got biggest attention, they get all lateste stuff and all that.

I feel sad for EMS, they just have same mission (Same fire spots) its kinda getting mainstream, i remember [Rstat]Louis gave LSFD new fire spots every month...so they had new challenges everytime.

Also EMS could earn more money by do another stuff, like heal in the ambulance instead to bring the person to any hospital for full health.

The shouldn't only get /ladder back, they should even get more stuff.  EMS deserve higher payment.

[Hevar.]

Well maybe that's because the PD has capable leadership while the ARFD does not?

Well....if LSFD get more attention maybe they can create a good leadership with ranks and all that just like ARPD have =)

[Dean.]

Well....if LSFD get more attention maybe they can create a good leadership with ranks and all that just like ARPD have =)

It takes more than a set of ranks. An actual leader with the required qualities, activity, motivation and experience.

[Dylan]

Third, have you took a look on /wear? Why it's full of Criminal/Police items and not for example an AED? or a SCBA pack?.

Because the /wear command isn't completed yet?

fourth, after centuries of gaming, /ladder was removed due some technical issues.. really?

Yeah, @Mikro put it back so we can enjoy the server lag.

Cause i only see Mafia members and Police officers. AND.. i see a lot of interest about Mafia/Police by the administration then EMS/SAFD. Oh, that's my opinion of course, i don't wanna offend nobody, just telling my opinion.

I have to agree with this. All I see is people care only about either the cops or criminals side.

[Seskom]

Guy has a great point. Though the answer from Devin was suprising to me-...

If a group should want actual support as EMS seems to want, a presence needs to be displayed to show it is worthy of having custom script support.

As it should be the goal of this server to step away from the traditional "cops and robbers" and make the roleplay more diverse, they should somehow initiate the process. Yes there are practically no firefighters or EMS because the motivation to do such a thing is practically close to zero as nobody ever requires EMS or firefighters except for the bot missions which equal completing singleplayer 10 times in a row.

If you want people to roleplay more diverse you should motivate them to do so. I undrestand that building a script and then starting to promote it is going to take alot of time and you would need to see if there's a need for that script, but you could temporarily motivate the players to play as EMS or Firefighter. Right now I'm brining out the worst motivator possible, but if you'd increase the income of EMS and Firefighters - people would try it out once again. Some people might find it suitable for themselves as when they roleplay they're able to make some money and put it into circulation within the economy. That would increase the demand issue, groups would be present, they would propose proper ideas related to their jobs and which they see necessary for improvement.

On other hand if you'd like people to fill the spots of SAPD and Criminals you continue on the track you've been so far, increase script support for these sectors and leave the other ones in background. I know it's up to the players which way they want to roleplay, but a motivational speech won't make someone EMS if nobody is interested in their services, on other hand forcing on EMS while they basically don't earn shit brings up a situation where nobody is part of the EMS, yet if you pay them too much, you'll end up with guys running around "HEAL?!!". The point is that you need to find the silver lining and promote more diverse roleplay within the community. It is up to players mostly, but someone needs to give them the kick which makes them move towards that direction.

[Sawyer]

All I see recently is no matter what the HQ does, no matter what differences they make, we keep moaning about something new. Let's just cool our jets for a while, we all have a real life.

[Spike.]

As it should be the goal of this server to step away from the traditional "cops and robbers" and make the roleplay more diverse, they should somehow initiate the process. Yes there are practically no firefighters or EMS because the motivation to do such a thing is practically close to zero as nobody ever requires EMS or firefighters except for the bot missions which equal completing singleplayer 10 times in a row.

If you want people to roleplay more diverse you should motivate them to do so. I undrestand that building a script and then starting to promote it is going to take alot of time and you would need to see if there's a need for that script, but you could temporarily motivate the players to play as EMS or Firefighter. Right now I'm brining out the worst motivator possible, but if you'd increase the income of EMS and Firefighters - people would try it out once again. Some people might find it suitable for themselves as when they roleplay they're able to make some money and put it into circulation within the economy. That would increase the demand issue, groups would be present, they would propose proper ideas related to their jobs and which they see necessary for improvement.

On other hand if you'd like people to fill the spots of SAPD and Criminals you continue on the track you've been so far, increase script support for these sectors and leave the other ones in background. I know it's up to the players which way they want to roleplay, but a motivational speech won't make someone EMS if nobody is interested in their services, on other hand forcing on EMS while they basically don't earn shit brings up a situation where nobody is part of the EMS, yet if you pay them too much, you'll end up with guys running around "HEAL?!!". The point is that you need to find the silver lining and promote more diverse roleplay within the community. It is up to players mostly, but someone needs to give them the kick which makes them move towards that direction.

The guy's got a good point right here.