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The tragedy in Paris causes paranoia in Lithuania

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Reply #15 on: November 17, 2015, 01:05:21 am
To be honest I don't understand why Lithuania would be so paranoid, they are tucked up right out of the way on the European continent, they have only taken in 1,007 refugees, they don't have a very large Islamic population nor a very large population themselves and to top it off, they have taken no military action against ISIS and I doubt they ever will due to lacking the technology required.

Lithuania is one of the last countries in Europe which should be panicking about an attack.

their way of the islam
I don't think anyone can define the 'right' way of Islam nor any religion, pretty much every religion preaches to kill non-believers whilst at the same time preaching about how to treat everyone as you wish to be treated yourself, it's pointless going into it but I think it's pretty obvious ISIS would insist their way is the right way, and who can argue against that when all religious books are just giant cluster fucks of contradiction and confliction.

I don't agree with 'their way' of Islam though, NATO needs to come together (with Russia) to completely obliterate their 'regime', time for some carpet bombing. :janek:

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Reply #16 on: November 17, 2015, 01:14:33 am
What does our priest has to say?
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Reply #17 on: November 17, 2015, 01:32:26 am
I don't think anyone can define the 'right' way of Islam nor any religion, pretty much every religion preaches to kill non-believers
That simply isn't true. For most religions including Islam. The fact some morons are    interpreting their religion that way is another problem. But most popular religions by its origin and original point, is far away from that, on a contrary.
Just like Christians were "interpreting" inquisitions as something define by God and Christianity, these guys are doing the same with Islam today.

ISIS doesn't have anything to do with ideology anyway. Not even hard core Islamic one. Its a organization build for a purpose to cause mess in that region, and being used when convenient for the attacks such as Paris, Russian plane, and many larger ones in the  region itself  They are a organization wiith a developed economy based on the oil filed they conquered in Iraq and Syria, and an army mostly made of mercenaries, not volunteers, like people usually think.
Everything else is just a charade to give some false meaning to the whole deal.

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Reply #18 on: November 17, 2015, 01:35:01 am
This whole thing  was a tragedy obviously but all this #prayforparis, facebook french profile pictures everywhere? 

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Reply #19 on: November 17, 2015, 01:51:27 am
This whole thing  was a tragedy obviously but all this #prayforparis, facebook french profile pictures everywhere?
Ye it's getting beyond pathetic, it's almost always the same case with every tragedy. Tragedy happens > show interest for 2 weeks > "What attack on France?"
I seriously can't stand such people, unless you've been there, unless you're involved in some way or another, then you're supposed to actually do it. Nothing wrong with condolences and such tho'.


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Reply #20 on: November 17, 2015, 01:55:04 am
Ye it's getting beyond pathetic, it's almost always the same case with every tragedy. Tragedy happens > show interest for 2 weeks > "What attack on France?"
I seriously can't stand such people, unless you've been there, unless you're involved in some way or another, then you're supposed to actually do it. Nothing wrong with condolences and such tho'.


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Reply #21 on: November 17, 2015, 02:18:47 am
pretty much every religion preaches to kill non-believers

with all my respect Before you say anything about any religion go and read the religion book or something to have some knowledge,  instead of just saying something you heard it from someone or read it in internet.

those who call themselves Muslims(ISIS) and kill citizens and innocent people, i won't call them that. cause in Islam book(Quran) is forbids to killing of innocent people.


watch it to know what i'm talking about  :)




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Reply #22 on: November 17, 2015, 02:23:49 am

It's obviously not helping anyone to change your profile picture to the French flag, but it's a way of saying I'm not supporting any of this shit, I'm with the French as we are united Europeans and if they somehow need the Swedes support, we are there to help out.

Do you think that you stating your quite negative and left analytic status of your attitude to profile pictures is going to change jack shit or is it only the way of showing support over internet that is bothering you? If you're on Facebook trying to find solutions to this whole mess, you're honestly on the wrong page. It's social media. Do you expect brain experts and rocket engineers? Lol.



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Reply #23 on: November 17, 2015, 02:26:49 am
They are not against humanity (well partly) but against anyone who opposes their "regime", particularly the west. It doesn't matter if you're a muslim or not, if you do not believe their way of the islam you are marked as an infidel and bound to be dead.

In islam killing infidel armies not innocent people....believe that or not ....it's your point of view.....and Islam is just one religion but the terrorists they got wrong and strange interpretations of Quran and Sunah of my messenger...like Crusaders in the middle ages....And i think you didn't read my post...no problem...but ISIS is an enemy for more than 99% of Muslims population ...what are you saying man?!...really non sense


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Reply #24 on: November 17, 2015, 02:33:45 am
That simply isn't true. For most religions including Islam. The fact some morons are    interpreting their religion that way is another problem. But most popular religions by its origin and original point, is far away from that, on a contrary.
Just like Christians were "interpreting" inquisitions as something define by God and Christianity, these guys are doing the same with Islam today.

ISIS doesn't have anything to do with ideology anyway. Not even hard core Islamic one. Its a organization build for a purpose to cause mess in that region, and being used when convenient for the attacks such as Paris, Russian plane, and many larger ones in the  region itself  They are a organization wiith a developed economy based on the oil filed they conquered in Iraq and Syria, and an army mostly made of mercenaries, not volunteers, like people usually think.
Everything else is just a charade to give some false meaning to the whole deal.
Cofi you were right in everything but the plane accident ...the truth of the accident will be in a week... don't say things to panic people from Egypt man.... i live in Egypt



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Reply #25 on: November 17, 2015, 02:45:34 am
Actually i am really sad..why you judge Islam cuz of ISIS or any terrorist groups like them....but i didn't judge christianity because  of crusaders what have done to us arabs in middle ages...and... .i didn't judge jews what they have done in palestine...Guys please read about Islam not media...



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Reply #26 on: November 17, 2015, 02:46:22 am
with all my respect Before you say anything about any religion go and read the religion book or something to have some knowledge,  instead of just saying something you heard it from someone or read it in internet.

those who call themselves Muslims(ISIS) and kill citizens and innocent people, i won't call them that. cause in Islam book(Quran) is forbids to killing of innocent people.
My knowledge will be facts. In 2014, 104 terrorist attacks were related to Islam or had Islamic "background", as in a religious group, person or someone taking responsibility. 121 terrorist attacks were not perpetrated by any group (unknown), yet 162 attacks in total did occur in the Arab world and 54 in Africa. 10 attacks in Asia and only 19 occurred in the rest of the world, India included.

This is pure stats and you can find the source of each attack if you would like to look a bit on statistical sites, but my point is - Islam as a religion and the believers need to condemn all kinds of extreme Islam, because it's a growing "side" division of Islam. This including the oppression towards women, especially in the Arabian peninsula, where women cannot even drive vehicles or people (as couple) holding each others hands without getting fined or arrested. You can't take away the fact that most of the Muslim population is far beyond in the development when it comes to adapting to a more democratic and more humane world. And that's my biggest concern when it comes to Islam.

Don't take me wrong, I got lots of friends who are Muslims and most of them are disgusted by the acts of Daesh, while there's still a few which have the attitude of this being right. Gothenburg, where I live, is the biggest importer of European soldiers to Daesh per capita and also a big stronghold of returning soldiers. My concern is not if they are going to do an attack here, because I find it hard to believe because you get everything for free here and we are not involved in the war whatsoever, but for the extreme Islam they are bringing back and spreading out to others without other Muslims in general giving them the hard hand, showing that it isn't okay to behave in such ways and do such idiotic and anti-democratic acts. Giving the hard hand, I literally mean being completely open with this not being "OK".

Thanks for the video, though. Enjoyed watching it.



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Reply #27 on: November 17, 2015, 02:50:46 am
My knowledge will be facts. In 2014, 104 terrorist attacks were related to Islam or had Islamic "background", as in a religious group, person or someone taking responsibility. 121 terrorist attacks were not perpetrated by any group (unknown), yet 162 attacks in total did occur in the Arab world and 54 in Africa. Only 19 occurred in the rest of the world, India included.

This is pure stats and you can find the source of each attack if you would like to look a bit on statistical sites, but my point is - Islam as a religion and the believers need to condemn all kinds of extreme Islam, because it's a growing "side" division of Islam. This including the oppression towards women, especially in the Arabian peninsula, where women cannot even drive vehicles or people (as couple) holding each others hands without getting fined or arrested. You can't take away the fact that most of the Muslim population is far beyond in the development when it comes to adapting to a more democratic and more humane world. And that's my biggest concern when it comes to Islam.

Don't take me wrong, I got lots of friends who are Muslims and most of them are disgusted by the acts of Daesh, while there's still a few which have the attitude of this being right. Gothenburg, where I live, is the biggest importer of European soldiers to Daesh per capita and also a big stronghold of returning soldiers. My concern is not if they are going to do an attack here, because I find it hard to believe because you get everything for free here and we are not involved in the war whatsoever, but for the extreme Islam they are bringing back and spreading out to others without other Muslims in general giving them the hard hand, showing that it isn't okay to behave in such ways and do such idiotic and anti-democratic acts. Giving the hard hand, I literally mean being completely open with this not being "OK".

Thanks for the video, though. Enjoyed watching it.


Okay, You are right... but Muslims are not perfect but Islam is perfect.......



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Reply #28 on: November 17, 2015, 03:11:12 am
Actually i am really sad..why you judge Islam cuz of ISIS or any terrorist groups like them....but i didn't judge christianity because  of crusaders what have done to us arabs in middle ages...and... .i didn't judge jews what they have done in palestine...Guys please read about Islam not media...
Are you serious? You're comparing what Muslims do today to what Christians did 1,000 years ago when pretty much everyone was cutting each other up for any reason they could find?

I'm an atheist so I don't care either way but come on, think before you speak...


Okay, You are right... but Muslims are not perfect but Islam is perfect.......

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Reply #29 on: November 17, 2015, 03:16:07 am
Are you serious? You're comparing what Muslims do today to what Christians did 1,000 years ago when pretty much everyone was cutting each other up for any reason they could find?

I'm an atheist so I don't care either way but come on, think before you speak...
okay in that time Muslims built a big civilisation and they were civilised like the west now.... And Europeans were killing each other in that time....you are athiest....did I insult or disrespect you...so respect my religion a little please



 


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