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A mentally ill criminal steals AK47 in Lithuania - ridiculous drama

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Vilnius Police have detained a mentally ill man for drug related crime. As some of you might know, Lithuanian police of the capital Vilnius has been issued AK47's since the Paris attacks.
Under circumstances still uknown to the public, this handcuffed psychopath somehow managed to steal an AK47 and escaped the police vehicle. The police officers lost him.

The entire Lithuanian police force was risen on high alert. Over 3000 police officers, including the Lithuanian anti-terrorist force ARAS started a manhunt that lasted 5 hours.

After five hours search, the suspect was finally found and detained. No people were harmed, thankfully.

This is not the only incident regarding the issue of AK47's to the Lithuanian police. Few days ago a police officer has somehow managed to accidentally shoot a homeless man to the leg.

The General Commissoneer of the Lithuanian Police has stated that those officers whose carelessness has lead to such a risky accident that could have led to far more serious consequences will have to answer for unlawful neglect.

You can find more information in English on its Reddit topic:

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/3tgp5h/vilnius_lithuania_a_detained_mentally_ill/

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Police manhunt


Photos can be found here (just scroll down):
http://www.15min.lt/naujiena/aktualu/nusikaltimaiirnelaimes/policijos-pajegos-skuba-i-pelesos-gatve-manoma-kad-sulaikytas-igoris-molotkovas-59-544231#_


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UPDATE:

Minister of Internal Affairs has facepalmed on the public TV, called the entire incident "pathetic".

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lol....this is what happens when modern european police train firearms usage once per year just to go through some qualification test



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lmao issueing AK47 is a pretty big joke

other than that it just looks like the officers weren't following procedure because this guy shouldn't have been able to grab it of course



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AK47, you guys till in the mid-1900?

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AK47, you guys till in the mid-1900?
and what difference does it make if it's AR or AK? the general engangement ranges for cops will be most likely less than 150 meters most of times, as long as it's not a handgun it's good cause handgun accuracy statistically is 13% in shootouts..... unless you just mean the incorrect use of 'AK47' name, since those don't exist anymore and it's more likely just an AK or AKM.

Also I wouldn't say issuing AKs was a mistake, it's a very justified and smart move - first of all in case of an terrorist attack, a policeman with just a handgun poses virtually NO threat to a terrorist armed with a rifle-caliber weapon, unless his marksmanship is on a marvellous level - but it won't be, because european cops don't train as much as american cops do. The best example is that FBI shootout that happened in the 70s, 4 FBI agents with handguns and one shotgun vs a suspect with Ruger Mini-14. Spoiler: he wiped them all out except for one I believe. The most important thing is the intimidation factor however, a terrorist would be more prone to hestitate knowing that cops can actually fight back properly. I'd like to remind you all of the Charlie Hebdo incident (or w.e the fuck its called) where the cops outside just got obliterated as they only had handguns and barely any training, further proving my thesis



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lol....this is what happens when modern european police train firearms usage once per year just to go through some qualification test
Aye, don't put this on all of Europe, most European countries have highly trained and professional police forces.

and what difference does it make if it's AR or AK? the general engangement ranges for cops will be most likely less than 150 meters most of times, as long as it's not a handgun it's good cause handgun accuracy statistically is 13% in shootouts..... unless you just mean the incorrect use of 'AK47' name, since those don't exist anymore and it's more likely just an AK or AKM.
It's still an old gun mainly used by pirates, terrorists and rebels. :rolleyes:

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Idk who thought it was a good idea to issue assault rifles to most of the police, there's really no need for it and the cops are unqualified to keep and use them... It's beyond me how some random drug addict who was HANDCUFFED managed to steal an AK and escape from custody.....

P.S. It's most definitely not an AK47, just that the press doesn't really differentiate between weapons. It's probably an AKS-74U.



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Aye, don't put this on all of Europe, most European countries have highly trained and professional police forces.
It's still an old gun mainly used by pirates, terrorists and rebels. :rolleyes:
Especially UK with how cops have to wait for armed backup if there's a gunman, and have to use trashcan bins in self protection against attackers with knives, am I rite?
And yeah my bad, I just meant it's not produced anymore, not non-existent. Except for the khyber-pass copies still being made of course



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#USA Chiming in.

Since the Hollywood Shootout of (i think) the 90's, US police officers have been upgraded to assault rifles. The standards and core values remain the same, if there is an asshole or group of em, then by all means, especially if s/he is threatening the lives of innocents or those sworn to protect.

Maybe I took my oath seriously, but I swore for COUNTRY, not people. People are antagonistic and disappointing as a whole, but within individually, worth protecting. I can't speak for the UK, nor its politics, nor its policement. Most notably, after such a tragedy.

What remains when you detract all social, political, and selfish motives; what remains is people. We are all creatures of sin, and it should be expected. The gray line is the difference between protection and freedom. Every human being is ENTITLED to compassion, and social engineering is one of the greatest threats known to humankind. Our thoughts shouldn't be blame, or to declare responsibility; in fact, it should be to better ourselves as a whole.

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"...After all, we're all alike."


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Especially UK with how cops have to wait for armed backup if there's a gunman, and have to use trashcan bins in self protection against attackers with knives, am I rite?
And how did that situation end? Good, nobody injured, just a cop who got some pepper spray in his own eyes.

The UK's cops don't carry guns all the time making it hard for them to be exactly where they need to be when something does happen, but every force has it's own highly trained firearms unit, I guess it's better to have cops with guns who know what they're doing than every cop with a gun and losing it to, you know, mentally ill people...


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And how did that situation end? Good, nobody injured, just a cop who got some pepper spray in his own eyes.

The UK's cops don't carry guns all the time making it hard for them to be exactly where they need to be when something does happen, but every force has it's own highly trained firearms unit, I guess it's better to have cops with guns who know what they're doing than every cop with a gun and losing it to, you know, mentally ill people...

You are judging the entire police force by a mistake of one man. It is understandable that they do not know how to act with the assault rifle properly, there really has not been a need for one in Lithuania. Lithuania is a very peaceful country and police officers rarely have to use a firearm. All their need for their job is physical strength, and in very few cases, taser, since the worst they deal with are aggressive drunks. And unlike the US cops, our cops are actually physically fit and they dont need to grab for a gun everytime someone shows signs of non compliance. :D
As a Police Volunteer in Kretinga County, I've observed some officers voluntarily refusing to carry their firearms.

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Ak-47 Is one of the best assault rifles ever made. So what if they use them? They never jam

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You are judging the entire police force by a mistake of one man. It is understandable that they do not know how to act with the assault rifle properly, there really has not been a need for one in Lithuania. Lithuania is a very peaceful country and police officers rarely have to use a firearm. All their need for their job is physical strength, and in very few cases, taser, since the worst they deal with are aggressive drunks. And unlike the US cops, our cops are actually physically fit and they dont need to grab for a gun everytime someone shows signs of non compliance. :D
As a Police Volunteer in Kretinga County, I've observed some officers voluntarily refusing to carry their firearms.
So you b!tch at me about judging an entire police force because of one man then you admit yourself the entire police force has been issued equipment which they don't know how to use, if they don't know how to keep their weapons safe they shouldn't have them and it's as simple as that, I think your govt has over-estimated how much of a target Lithuania actually is and really overreacted just to look like a special little flower, seriously right now I think the UK is the 2nd biggest target after France and yet I have not seen a single cop with a gun, anywhere, meanwhile all cops in Lithuania have been issued assault rifles... You have to question your governments professionalism in a time like that, especially when one of the assault rifles ends up in the hands of a so-called mentally ill man, you might aswell tell your cops to give their guns to terrorists, atleast then they would have done it on purpose and not lost them. :lol:

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3,000 cops put on alert over this guy? Looks like he should be down at the market selling fruit.

Ak-47 Is one of the best assault rifles ever made. So what if they use them? They never jam
:lol: Meanwhile in Paris, video emerges of two women escaping death as the terrorists AK-47 jammed as he prepared to fire... gg

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