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Reply #90 on: November 24, 2015, 11:42:06 pm
Well... here's the fact:

Born that way: 100%

This is NOT a choice

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Reply #91 on: November 24, 2015, 11:45:14 pm
http://www.biblebelievers.com/Cameron3.html

There you go.

About the author of this article:

In 1986 the American Sociological Association passed a resolution stating, “The American Sociological Association officially and publicly states that Paul Cameron is not a sociologist, and condemns his consistent misrepresentation of sociological research

In 1996, the Board of Directors of the Canadian Psychological Association approved a position statement disassociating the organisation from Cameron's work on sexuality, stating that he had "consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism"

Which was the result of an investigation against Cameron because of articles that had the same base as the one you linked. One article from 1997 from a person with such subjectivity cannot be seen as a reliable source.

Seems you missed this post; your link was more useless than a McDonalds menu in a sewer.



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Reply #92 on: November 24, 2015, 11:46:12 pm
Why dont we guys just put a lit on this topic...Its getting pretty harsh here..
Im sorry if I offended anyone with my personal opinion about adoption.

Please can someone close this topic?



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Reply #93 on: November 24, 2015, 11:48:24 pm
Well... here's the fact:

Born that way: 100%

This is NOT a choice
Ok then let's say that's true. Since this is not a choice, how are you born differently then?

NONE is born gay or straight.

Im sorry if I offended anyone with my personal opinion about adoption.
I clearly don't mind being hated for my beliefs. I'm sorry if someone felt offended but yet I cannot say I'm sorry for expressing it.





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Reply #94 on: November 24, 2015, 11:51:05 pm
Ok then let's say that's true. Since this is not a choice, how are you born differently then?

NONE is born gay or straight.

Sure professor/doctor. Your site is still garbage along with all of the information on it.



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Reply #95 on: November 24, 2015, 11:52:21 pm
Why are you against love?

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Reply #96 on: November 24, 2015, 11:53:34 pm
Why dont we guys just put a lit on this topic...Its getting pretty harsh here..
Im sorry if I offended anyone with my personal opinion about adoption.

Please can someone close this topic?
Clearly, in such topics like these we can see several different types of people, those who agree with it, those who don't(it's their opinion we got to respect it), and those who are too immature to even discuss about such topics, and the last type of people is what makes such topics to be locked.

There is no need to close this topic, but if people continue to aggressively pose their opinions and try to force it on others then it should be instantly closed.


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Reply #97 on: November 24, 2015, 11:54:13 pm
Ok then let's say that's true. Since this is not a choice, how are you born differently then?

NONE is born gay or straight.

WRONG No one is born good or evil
Society helps you build character

Cant say that about sexual attraction toward someone or something.
Personaly I like oral sex more than penetrating sex,Im born that way and even if i was born 5 times more that would be the thing i like more..

When it comes to taste and sexual arousing there is not much room for choice that thing turns you on and thats it



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Reply #98 on: November 24, 2015, 11:54:51 pm
Why are you against love?
I swear to God I'm not. I have nothing against you nor anyone here about being gays/bisexuals and I mean that from the bottom of my heart. I just can't support gay marriage adoption.





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Reply #99 on: November 24, 2015, 11:55:45 pm
You know... IF I was a kid and given a choice, to be raised by gay parents that would love me a lot, or to live alone without family, I think I'll be happy with my same sex parents. :)



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Reply #100 on: November 25, 2015, 12:03:05 am
Homosexual behavior is a bad habit that people fall into because they are sexually permissive and experimental. This view holds rat homosexuals choose their lifestyle as the result of self-indulgence and an unwillingness to play by society rules.

Another view is that homosexual behavior is a mental illness, symptomatic of arrested development. Probably because they have unnatural or perverse desires as a consequence of poor familial relations in childhood or some other trauma.



I am sure these lions are adopted and isn't willing to play by the society rules.



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Reply #101 on: November 25, 2015, 12:25:59 am
Spoiler for Hiden:
That's a funny way to show dominance! :lol:

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Reply #102 on: November 25, 2015, 12:28:31 am
The thing is, you may have your own opinion when it comes to same-sex marriage/adoption. Sure, you may agree or disagree - that's the right every human being on this planet has. But that doesn't mean that you can go around insulting people because you believe those religious-based studies. You may see it as the truth or as a valid scientific study, but to others it might be insulting. Would be nice to think about that before joining a discussion like this instead of randomly posting quotes from a webpage and labeling it as a fact.



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Reply #103 on: November 25, 2015, 01:01:59 am
Homosexual behavior is a bad habit that people fall into because they are sexually permissive and experimental.
The thing is, you can post stuff this like and claim that it is your opinion and is therefore in some way protected, but statements like these are harmful because some people will actually read them and believe them, and eventually someone who actually has a say (like a politician, or indeed the majority of the electorate as a group) could feel this way and lead to discrimination with no actual basis. Of course people will attack you for saying that married gay couples should not be able to adopt, because frankly it's a stupid position to hold with no real sociological basis that could, if spread to the right place, cause many couples to not be able to adopt and leave many kids in orphanages for no good reason.

Suppose I was to say something outrageous like: Greek families should not be able to adopt children. Even if it's my opinion and I could "back it up" using some kind of economic argument relating to falling average household income (complete with technically factual stats and graphs), it would be absolutely legitimate to attack that opinion, and attack me for having it, because it's stupid and harmful and if I was to say it enough someone else will believe it, and it could cause actual harm.

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Reply #104 on: November 25, 2015, 11:51:38 pm
The thing is, you may have your own opinion when it comes to same-sex marriage/adoption. Sure, you may agree or disagree - that's the right every human being on this planet has. But that doesn't mean that you can go around insulting people because you believe those religious-based studies. You may see it as the truth or as a valid scientific study, but to others it might be insulting. Would be nice to think about that before joining a discussion like this instead of randomly posting quotes from a webpage and labeling it as a fact.
I don't give a shit about those so called religious-based studies. I didn't even notice the link was called "bible believers", I was just reading few researches and articles regarding homosexuality/bisexuality due to the fact we had those arguments. My opinion regarding the whole thing differs from many in here and I do not feel sorry about expressing it, not at all.

However, I did not point any fingers, but yet I got so bad girled regarding my thoughts and beliefs. Here's a bit of info, in case you have not noticed. On the following quote, it's me just saying that I do not support adoption, since when expressing your opinion in the best possible way is insulting? It's not, right?

As long as their not allowed to adopt kids, I'm fine with it.

After that reply, here's some responses which look kind of disrespecting if you ask me.

What surprises me is that you actually think you're not a bunch of discriminating homophobes.

Well I hope you two never gets children. :)

I had no intention of insulting or provoking anyone here. I started out saying that I'm against adoption. The link I shared with you was just mentioning few possible explanations regarding the whole thing. Some of its content might look harsh but most of it contains legit points. I did not point fingers to anyone and my message was not directed to anyone of you, it was just an answer to Skyhawk's question. I do not say it was right or wrong but I will say this; I'm not against homosexuality/bisexuality. For the last time again. Nevertheless, I just can't support adoption for my reasons and I did not mean to offend anyone here.











 


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