Player base

[Devin]

Players that come to roleplay get pushed away from the server by other players obsession to cause shootouts and "wars" between groups over non-roleplay reasons.
Sadly people call killing others a victory on a roleplay server instead of seeing roleplay interaction as a victory where both sides can be entertained and have a good time.

[Pizza4_Games]

Players that come to roleplay get pushed away from the server by other players obsession to cause shootouts and "wars" between groups over non-roleplay reasons.
Sadly people call killing others a victory on a roleplay server instead of seeing roleplay interaction as a victory where both sides can be entertained and have a good time.

And how can you change that when people just want to be that way no matter what.

[Devin]

And how can you change that when people just want to be that way no matter what.

Remove those unsuitable people from the server if they are not willing to follow the rules and actually put roleplay before shooting everything and everyone.

[Pizza4_Games]

Remove those unsuitable people from the server if they are not willing to follow the rules and actually put roleplay before shooting everything and everyone.

In the end they'll spam the unban request even if they get denied multiple times. I think there should be a roleplay guide to every new player to read, and a skip button if already knows how to roleplay.

[Kaze]

Devin is right. There's not a day when I am not armed because I expect the other party to take out a lethal weapon after an interaction

[Devin]

In the end they'll spam the unban request even if they get denied multiple times. I think there should be a roleplay guide to every new player to read, and a skip button if already knows how to roleplay.

Sadly the mentality of some players can't be resolved; I'll give you this example from an actual semi-high ranked member of a criminal group.

What is the problem of accepting new players in our family?
We trust players and we invite them to teach them.
To make an army.

An army? On a roleplay server... The goal here is to roleplay not "win" in a shootout that has no actual roleplay behind it.

[Kaze]

I have mentioned multiple times to make this into a 18+ community but that would lose the player base significantly. 80% of the server are under 18 so you can see where this mentality comes from.

From the HQ side, make a new Argonath vision and a 3 strike system. Once a player is on his 3rd strike thats a year's ban (subject to reason). That will eventually increase the RP within the server.

Yes, I know we're at the point to suggest BANNING to mature these players.

[Pizza4_Games]

Some people from the same criminal group or other are just there to kidnap and kill enemies as a retaliation every time. We're here to roleplay and enjoy it not act badass and not fear 100 guns pointed at me and rather just run away because I don't care. Alot of killing happens, I'd support legal roleplay to reduce the deathmatching punishments.

[Devin]

From the HQ side, make a new Argonath vision and a 3 strike system. Once a player is on his 3rd strike thats a year's ban (subject to reason). That will eventually increase the RP within the server.

I would personally say 3 strikes and you're out for good, find a new server. But that's just me. I am sure some people can't survive without being banned at least once a year.

[Kaze]

I would personally say 3 strikes and you're out for good, find a new server. But that's just me. I am sure some people can't survive without being banned at least once a year.

Both suggestions are good enough but I like yours better. Right now these lot have nothing to lose. Get banned, cry and apologise on unban req and get unbanned in a month's time. Using your idea, they would actually have something to lose and would think twice before saying anything in /p let alone /l

Also, it would actually help them develop in real life. I'm sure every workplace im real life has a 3 strike method. Damn, we're actually playing mommy and daddy now.

[Pizza4_Games]

Lets think about how we can raise SAMP's player base, there are loads of roleplay servers that are populated in SA:MP. How can we get others' interest in coming, enjoying the roleplay and actually staying without rage quiting everytime they log in, yet again, you can't make everyone happy. Sometimes I think new players who are willing to learn roleplay just get drafted into 'that' criminal group and just go down the hill. I wonder why these groups aren't down yet.

[eymas]

80% of the server are under 18 so you can see where this mentality comes from.

Neither does that automatically imply people 18+ can behave better, i've seen examples where they can behave just as horrid as those you despise.

Problem lies in what people like to do, those who want to cause trouble end up meeting our hammers as we are there to keep the atmosphere enjoyable for all.
So far none seem happy in the server as the only thing happening is people killing each other and/or then bitching about being dead and accusing others of breaking rules.

[Devin]

Both suggestions are good enough but I like yours better. Right now these lot have nothing to lose.

Perhaps they could lose some money or assets when they get banned too. Maybe that will be incentive enough to behave ingame.

[Kaze]

I'm on my phone so expect some errors

@ leon - 18+ are generally more mature. If you want a debate with that i'll be happy to do so when I finish work.

@ devin - yeah, people get too happy over pixelated money. You have players like j3rry Allegedly hacking 5mill like why? Dusty is self explanatory as you were there that night. Im not saying im perfect but i been here for years and to see this community degrading hurts. Yeah I appreciate the new scripts but thats irrelevant. You can even have candyland scripts, the mentality of majority players will still bring down the scripts

[Pizza4_Games]

More strict rules for groups please.