Player base

[Devin]

Well its understandable that sometimes RP whispers may go throught PM.. besides that theres absolutely no reason to RP throught pm.. however i dont think it should be punishable... but should simply not be considered RP.. at least i wouldn't ever consider PM as RP (besides the whisper thing).  I think that for new players they should simply be taught to reach people rply..

Everyone has the ability to send a PM and use it properly. If people wish to show their lack of RP ethic by PMing others for help so be it. Soon enough they may realize why people react the way they do to them. It is entertaining when those preaching about increasing roleplay quality are also those calling for help over PM in situations where they should have no means of contacting others.

It all comes down to individuals mentality, for example if you're on a cop duty and someone PMs saying "Help im kidnapped" why respond to it as if it was a roleplay call for help? Tell that person to roleplay or not bother calling for help.

Push them off the diving board if they refuse to jump off the edge voluntarily.

[Mikal]

You know, the low player base might just be linked to all the people sat around here moaning about stuff that really isn't a problem, every week there's a new topic bringing up something completely stupid that should just be left as is, infact I think those people need a topic entirely dedicated to them, a topic where all of those who want to be baby sat can loiter and pretend they are a special experienced veteran of the community who has had enough with all their imaginary problems which so desperately need to be solved.

One thing I liked about RS4 is that people didn't give a shit, they just got on with what they wanted to do, they didn't sit on the forums all day explaining why they don't go in-game, it's the 'veterans' that are the problem nowadays.

[Devin]

If people could put in their part towards improving roleplay ingame instead of preaching on the forum, I am fairly certain change would be visible.
I guess it's easier to post on the forum however.

[Kaze]

If people could put in their part towards improving roleplay ingame instead of preaching on the forum, I am fairly certain change would be visible.
I guess it's easier to post on the forum however.

When I try to roleplay with a 'Civilian', 9/10 times I get a firearm up against my throat. When I try to roleplay with the law.. self explanatory. When I make a discussion like this on /p I get told to 'drop it' by the admins in the game and/or 'go post on the forum stop spamming /p' so I don't know how else can we get our message forward.

I made this topic because I have the obligation to bring back Argonath to it's former glory. I joined this community because how it was back in 2009. The way it's going it will last for a maximum of 2 years. My days here are numbered sadly so I'm trying my hardest to leave some sort of sustainability in this community for the new players ala 2011 players and above.

[Que]

If people could put in their part towards improving roleplay ingame instead of preaching on the forum, I am fairly certain change would be visible.
I guess it's easier to post on the forum however.

You summed up how life is. You can't expect any difference on a gaming community.
If people were as good as they thought, solving every problem with every answer, no matter how little knowledge you basically have regarding the subject, the world would be a much better place right now.

One thing I liked about RS4 is that people didn't give a shit, they just got on with what they wanted to do, they didn't sit on the forums all day explaining why they don't go in-game, it's the 'veterans' that are the problem nowadays.

You remember incorrectly. The forum was even more active back then, with even more topics related to ADMINS ABUSE or whatnot. Today is a piece of cake if you compare those times.

[Cofiliano]

You know, the low player base might just be linked to all the people sat around here moaning about stuff that really isn't a problem, every week there's a new topic bringing up something completely stupid that should just be left as is, infact I think those people need a topic entirely dedicated to them, a topic where all of those who want to be baby sat can loiter and pretend they are a special experienced veteran of the community who has had enough with all their imaginary problems which so desperately need to be solved.

Yep that's about it.

Attention whoring, talking about the "good old days", because they're bored at the moment, and have nothing else to do, then write topics to drag some attention, where in fact they haven't do jack shit on the server, not only nowdays yet back in the "good old days".

One thing I liked about RS4 is that people didn't give a shit, they just got on with what they wanted to do, they didn't sit on the forums all day explaining why they don't go in-game, it's the 'veterans' that are the problem nowadays.

Nah bro, there were a lot of these topics back in rs3 and rs4. Tho they were valid topics from people who wanted to change the server, and save it from dying out, but were served with "Argo vision" and "gtfo if u dont like it" and  "this aint RLRP SERVER ARGO UNIQUE" bullshit.

[Kaze]

Does someone HAVE to do something to qualify to say the term 'good old days?' Yeah you opened a group in 2009 and it managed to last till the present day big deal.. the old days simply put were better than now. You should admit it yourself the roleplay was better back then then it is now..

We had Box3r/Junaid/Brave4Arnold/Maniac Mike as the villains of the community with Daco being the one and only troll. Thats 5 people the HQ were monitoring. Now all hell break loose because of the new blood in the community.

[Devin]

Box3r please. 

[Cofiliano]

Does someone HAVE to do something to qualify to say the term 'good old days?' Yeah you opened a group in 2009 and it managed to last till the present day big deal.. the old days simply put were better than now.

Yes, someone should do, make, create, work hard on something, before he gets the rights to criticize other people who are doing that.

Those who don't, are just used to be baby seat by those same people in the "good old days", who are now gone for different reasons, and now that their babyseaters aren't around, they create moan topics about it, instead of becoming the babyseater after all these years and experience they gain with those people teaching them, and should focus on making something, recruting or teaching new guys, basically passing on their roleplay, business, and leading skills, being an example to new guys, just like those legends were examples to them.


But since they can't be annoyed with it, its easier to complain and act like a over grown baby, crying for its mommy.

You should admit it yourself the roleplay was better back then then it is now..

No its not lol, its just has less players then back then, but the quality of roleplay nowdays is way higher then back then.
And not only that, yet the rules are adjusted better then before, where you would get banned for "force roleplaying" when you try robbing a guy, while now days the guy can get banned for failure to roleplay.

We had Box3r/Junaid/Brave4Arnold/Maniac Mike as the villains of the community with Daco being the one and only troll. Thats 5 people the HQ were monitoring. Now all hell break loose because of the new blood in the community.

Daco was the only and ultimate troll in Argonath history, that's true. Everyone else are wannabes.

But that same Daco was an amazing roleplayer when he was serious, unlike people today.

I don't see much "new blood in the community" trolling, give some examples?

Its mostly some veterans, who think they became ultimate over lords of intelligence, maturity, and skills that goes beyond Argonath, just because they're 18-19-20 years old now, when actually they're the same morons they were when they were 14-15, proving to all of us with their behavior, that their maturity hasn't developed much.

[Luke]

If people could put in their part towards improving roleplay ingame instead of preaching on the forum, I am fairly certain change would be visible.
I guess it's easier to post on the forum however.

Was saying this with @Bruce. yesterday, everyone wants to moan and complain how role play is bad etc, yet they only air it on the forums and don't go in-game and actually do shit all about it. Thats the problem here. If time spent complaining on the forums was actually spent in game we wouldn't have to worry about player-count.

[Liviu.]

If time spent complaining on the forums was actually spent in game we wouldn't have to worry about player-count.

Mostly because the ones who moan didn't visit the server from RS4.

[[NP]Monte Montague]

Someone should do a strategic review of Argonath RPG SAMP.
It is in-need of one.

[Devin]

Someone should do a strategic review of Argonath RPG SAMP.
It is in-need of one.

Care to elaborate? If you have problems then voice them.

[[NP]Monte Montague]

Care to elaborate? If you have problems then voice them.

There are many problems. The problems must be identified and an actual plan with effort and thinking be put in place.

As you can see from this
 
 over a 30 day period the average is getting smaller and smaller.

Rapid decline coincidentally came about after the removal / leaving of  several noticeable figures, hissy fit allegations, general negative views and unfounded superstition etc. etc. 

The strategic "take out the leader and the others will disperse" battle technique is evident as being performed on what is known as Argonath RPG SAMP, of which community members are dispersing left right and center.

I can provide a list of issues that Argonath is facing.
 However if the leadership isn't present / does not exist then it's going to be pointless endeavor.

Management & leadership are different.
Something that Argonath RPG needs is clear leadership.

[Jay42]

There are a lot of players playing SAMP, and looking for servers etc.. IDK how but we need to do something about it, and make them lead theirselves to argo.
 Argo is the best server i've ever seen in my life, i don't want it to crumble down.
I really don't know what to do. I just want to see argo with more than 100 players daily.