Going to build a new computer soon...

[brian1996]

Kingston HyperX is a good choice as well, however you need to change the kits since you're are looking at 2 sticks with 4GB each (totaling 8GB RAM total). If you want 16GB in your system look for a kit with 2 8GB sticks.

[Mikal]

I actually used this site when I first begun building my computer as I were a freshie and it gives you any errors if you have something that don't match up.
It also tells you how much watt your current build is going to use.

https://pcpartpicker.com/

Just create a build and choose the parts

Edit: Would have gone for the HyperX FURY Series :P

Thanks I'll throw everything into that site when I'm done adding to my list to see if it all looks good, and yeah I think the HyperX Fury Series look good and saves a few quid, so I'll buy them for sure!

Kingston HyperX is a good choice as well, however you need to change the kits since you're are looking at 2 sticks with 4GB each (totaling 8GB RAM total). If you want 16GB in your system look for a kit with 2 8GB sticks.

Good thing you said, didn't notice I had the 2x 4GB selected

Think I've got everything I need done now, except the CPU cooler which I'm still debating on... Really don't know what to do, water cooling or air cooling, and I still want something that looks nice.

[brian1996]

I've gone ahead and put together a basic system for you including the case you already ordered.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RHRh4D
This is just for basic functionality and allows upgrades in the future such as a proper CPU cooler, you can pretty much use the stock one for a while until you have money again right?.
The cost of this would be ~$960. I went ahead and instead put a 970 in it. If you went with a 960 with 4GB VRAM you would be paying around ~$875.

[Omri]

Think I've got everything I need done now, except the CPU cooler which I'm still debating on... Really don't know what to do, water cooling or air cooling, and I still want something that looks nice.

If you got the money and you want to have something to look good I would say totally go for water cooling so when one day you choose to overclock your CPU you are more than good to go and don't have to spend further money to keep it cool.

Edit: As I said earlier, the 970 is worth the extra buck so the build Brian made is not that bad again.

[Mikal]

I've gone ahead and put together a basic system for you including the case you already ordered.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RHRh4D
This is just for basic functionality and allows upgrades in the future such as a proper CPU cooler, you can pretty much use the stock one for a while until you have money again right?.
The cost of this would be ~$960. I went ahead and instead put a 970 in it. If you went with a 960 with 4GB VRAM you would be paying around ~$875.

Thank's for that but it is a huge price leap (especially with the 970), is the motherboard I mentioned not very good or?

If you got the money and you want to have something to look good I would say totally go for water cooling so when one day you choose to overclock your CPU you are more than good to go and don't have to spend further money to keep it cool.

Edit: As I said earlier, the 970 is worth the extra buck so the build Brian made is not that bad again.

I know the 970 is worth it but I really can't afford the extra £90, I'll be happy running alot of the newer games on atleast medium settings, I'm not a huge graphics freak, I just want better FPS which is why I've chose to go from a GTX 650 to a GTX 960, should be a hugely noticeable jump.

And as much as water cooling does look good (especially with the lights on some of the CPU coolers) I think I'll be sticking to air cooling for now, I can always change that in the future if I wanted to do some seriously over clocking, but for now a fan will do right? Should be able to overclock with one a little bit if I really wanted to?

Appreciate the help

[brian1996]

Thank's for that but it is a huge price leap (especially with the 970), is the motherboard I mentioned not very good or?

There's nothing wrong with the motherboard, I just decided to go with Asus since they are legendary regarding motherboards. I went with a Z97 board since they have more features and support overclocking, H97 is basically a barebones board. Keep in mind that the motherboard is one of the most important components in your PC, it's the backbone of everything. Check the features it has, see if it has what you want (USB ports, connections, headers, etc.) and perhaps get opinions on it. I'm kind of amazed that MSI actually advertise that board as "overclocking ready" considering that none of the H97 chipset boards support overclocking. I highly suggest you to switch to Z97 tho' because you will regret it in the future when you want to do more things with your PC.
Anyway it's your choice with the GPU but at least you have an estimate now on how much you will be spending.

[DarkPower202]

I might build a new computer too

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zrkyvK

What you think? My Budget is below $600

[Luke]

I might build a new computer too

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zrkyvK

What you think? My Budget is below $600

Bit of a old build I had that CPU and it pretty much bottle-necked most new end GPU's.

[rid]

Do yourself a favour and skip to Skylake, no real reason to stay with the older socket since it only costs a bit more yet you get some gains.
Links from amazon.co.uk, I guess you're from the UK (Wales!). Unfortunately things are more expensive than in the US.

Pleeeease ignore the fancy looks, don't pick just because "it's red", "it's blue", etc. You want performance. As long as your PC doesn't look like a clown, you'll be fine, but that is just my opinion.
It's because being on a budget means you have to give up on some commodities that people with a ton of money have - such as matching colour theme for all your PC parts. Unless you want to pay the same and get a lower end PC just because it looks a little better, which goes a bit against the budget philosophy.
You'll be looking at your monitor most of the time

Also, the build names are just a joke.


Build #1 - "El Cheapo Poorfag":
Computer Case: Corsair Carbide Series 100R - £42.95
Motherboard: AsRock Z170M Pro4S - £78.45
CPU: Intel Core i5 6600K - £206.57
CPU Cooler: Scythe Katana 4 - £25.45
RAM: 2x 8GB HyperX Fury DDR4 2666Mhz (16GB total) - £77.40
GPU: PNY GTX 960 OC 4GB - £159.00
HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - £57.50
PSU: Corsair CX600 - £51.99
Total: £699,31
You could cut a few pounds off this build, by selecting slower & cheaper RAM and, if you don't plan on overclocking, cheaper CPU (non-K variant) and cheaper motherboard (with lower end chipset)

Build #2 - "Casual Poorfag":
Computer Case: NZXT CA-S340 Black/Blue - £63.90
Everything else same as Build #1
Total: £720,26

Build #3 - "I just want a 970 and my pretty case":
GPU: EVGA GTX 970 Superclocked 4GB - £268.98
Everything else same as Build #2
Total: £830,24

Build #4 - "Git Rekt, u Fukin Skrub":
Computer Case:NZXT CA-S340 Black/Blue - £63.90
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z170-HD3P - £94.68
CPU: Intel Core i5 6600K - £206.57
CPU Cooler: Scythe Katana 4 - £25.45
RAM: 2x 8GB HyperX Fury DDR4 2666Mhz (16GB total) - £77.40
GPU: Gigabyte GTX 970 Gaming G1 4GB - £274.98
HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - £57.50
SSD: Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB - £65.00
PSU: XFX TS 550W - £70.93
Total: £936,41
Things in bold were added/changed when compared to the other builds.

For all these builds, assembly costs are not included, and the CPU cooler comes with thermal paste.

I might build a new computer too

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zrkyvK

What you think? My Budget is below $600

Just terrible, please at least get rid of that extremely outdated (and expensive!) CPU, motherboard and RAM.

[brian1996]

Do yourself a favour and skip to Skylake, no real reason to stay with the older socket since it only costs a bit more yet you get some gains.

Such as the requirement to use windows 10 in order to get security updates, hell no. The entire line of CPUs is shit.

[Mikal]

Erm so, the reason I chose this is because it's the 'most bought' with the Intel Core i5 4690K which I'll be buying, the fact that it's blue (the colour I wanted) is just a good coincidence.

As for the memory I'm happy sticking with the SSHD for the (what I assume to be) huge boost in loading speeds, and it's also pretty much the same price as the normal HDD you listed, so that's an obvious choice right?

Also, can somebody tell me the difference between these 3 GPU's?

1. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-Nvidia-PCI-E-Graphics-Card/dp/B00SKWIISQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1455737949&sr=1-4&keywords=GTX+960+4gb

2. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-GV-N960OC-4GD-Express-Graphics-Cards/dp/B012G7VCGU/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1455737949&sr=1-2&keywords=GTX+960+4gb

3. http://www.amazon.co.uk/PNY-GDDR5-Ge-Force-Graphics-Card/dp/B016XK8WPU/ref=sr_1_5?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1455737949&sr=1-5&keywords=GTX+960+4gb

They are all 4GB VRAM, I know the first one is 'stock overclocked' and seems to have bigger heat pipes, wouldn't that make it the better choice?
Thought I do like the blue on the 2nd one, sorry, I'm a sucker for looks.

[rid]

Such as the requirement to use windows 10 in order to get security updates, hell no. The entire line of CPUs is shit.

You can't expect legacy support for legacy OSes in everything that is new. Windows 7 was released in 2009, it's been almost 7 years. I see no reasons to not use Windows 10 instead of Windows 7, but that is my personal opinion.
But please go ahead and define what makes "The entire line of CPUs is shit" true with an objective review, showing pros and cons of each side. Otherwise it's just a "ps3 is shit x360 is good" and "x360 is shit ps3 is good" kind of opinion.

Erm so, the reason I chose this is because it's the 'most bought' with the Intel Core i5 4690K which I'll be buying, the fact that it's blue (the colour I wanted) is just a good coincidence.

As for the memory I'm happy sticking with the SSHD for the (what I assume to be) huge boost in loading speeds, and it's also pretty much the same price as the normal HDD you listed, so that's an obvious choice right?

Also, can somebody tell me the difference between these 3 GPU's?

1. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-Nvidia-PCI-E-Graphics-Card/dp/B00SKWIISQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1455737949&sr=1-4&keywords=GTX+960+4gb

2. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-GV-N960OC-4GD-Express-Graphics-Cards/dp/B012G7VCGU/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1455737949&sr=1-2&keywords=GTX+960+4gb

3. http://www.amazon.co.uk/PNY-GDDR5-Ge-Force-Graphics-Card/dp/B016XK8WPU/ref=sr_1_5?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1455737949&sr=1-5&keywords=GTX+960+4gb

They are all 4GB VRAM, I know the first one is 'stock overclocked' and seems to have bigger heat pipes, wouldn't that make it the better choice?
Thought I do like the blue on the 2nd one, sorry, I'm a sucker for looks.

If you're staying with the i5 4690K, sure, that motherboard is decent and the price is not bad for what you get. I still think you'd be better served with Skylake, though.

I really recommend you to use a HDD instead, SSHDs are glorified in their product pages but real world usage doesn't improve that much - the SSD portion of it is only used for caching,they just store the most commonly accessed files in the SSD part. General consensus is that hybrid HDDs kinda suck - better save up a bit more and buy a SSD later. The SSD part of that HDD is only 8GB anyway, so it can actually be considered expensive, 8GB doesn't even fit all Windows files, so the caching won't be that good. Plus, you get no real control of what gets cached.
It costs more than double the price of the normal HDD I mentioned in my builds - keep in mind that hybrid is 1TB, where the HDD is 2TB. Really recommend to either: get SSD + HDD, get just a SSD and live with small storage and later buy a HDD, or get just a HDD and later buy a SSD.

Out of these 3 GPUs, the Asus one is the fastest, performance wise. There's other factors such as noise, the PNY will probably be the noisiest on load, but I haven't checked reviews between these 3, so don't take that for granted.

Also, I wouldn't pay £48 for that fancy ass cooler (it sure looks fancy) you mentioned a few posts below, I'd rather spend some of that money on better things. For a bit more you could buy a 250GB SSD instead of that cooler.

[Fuzzy]

Such as the requirement to use windows 10 in order to get security updates, hell no. The entire line of CPUs is shit.

[brian1996]

But please go ahead and define what makes "The entire line of CPUs is shit" true with an objective review, showing pros and cons of each side. Otherwise it's just a "ps3 is shit x360 is good" and "x360 one is shit ps3 is good" kind of opinion.

The fact that skylake processors are known to bend (contact pins and such) when a custom CPU cooler or water block is attached to it. Performance wise, there isn't any gains, in fact it's worse. My 4790K and my previous 5960X smokes the flagship models.

Also, can somebody tell me the difference between these 3 GPU's?

1. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-Nvidia-PCI-E-Graphics-Card/dp/B00SKWIISQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1455737949&sr=1-4&keywords=GTX+960+4gb

2. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-GV-N960OC-4GD-Express-Graphics-Cards/dp/B012G7VCGU/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1455737949&sr=1-2&keywords=GTX+960+4gb

3. http://www.amazon.co.uk/PNY-GDDR5-Ge-Force-Graphics-Card/dp/B016XK8WPU/ref=sr_1_5?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1455737949&sr=1-5&keywords=GTX+960+4gb

The difference is cooling solution and clock speeds. The third one is a reference card with a reference cooler (blower style) which I do not advise on using.

[rid]

The fact that skylake processors are known to bend (contact pins and such) when a custom CPU cooler or water block is attached to it. Performance wise, there isn't any gains, in fact it's worse. My 4790K and my previous 5960X smokes the flagship models.

Whatever you're smoking, I want some of it. The 4790K does NOT smoke the 6700K.

Now instead of just saying "x is faster than y", I'll show you some tangible results. i7 6700K wins in pretty much every benchmark even though it has a slightly lower clock.
Here's some evidence instead of just words, gaming:



Here's the article from that video: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-intel-skylake-core-i7-6700k-review
And here's an excerpt of it:
"Even so when looking at average frame-rates in titles where we are truly CPU-bound for the majority of the duration, there are some notable results: in GTA 5, the 6700K is 20 per cent faster than the 4790K, (...) Also noteworthy is Far Cry 4: 17/40/43 per cent faster respectively than its predecessors - Devil's Canyon, Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge."
That article has a table with a few games on it, there's not a single game in it where the 4790K wins when against the 6700K. It's not just averages too, the min fps is better too, with the exception of one game where it loses by 1fps, which is just an odd sample out of all the others:


The bending issue is real though, and I won't deny that. Although from what I read, only a few coolers seem to have caused it when moving out your PC from one place to another (typically in vehicles). I'll let you know, though, that my 6700K, which has a Scythe Katana 4 cooler, has been moved 4x so far (about 2 hours each ride, and it has some shitty roads) and it is absolutely fine.


The 5690X is a different kind of beast, typically aimed at servers or workflows that make good use of multi core systems:


But the price tag on it is insane, you could get a complete build with a 970 in it and all that shizzle for the price of a 5960X, so you can't even complain about any skylake CPU vs 5960x, it's a whole different level.