ignore rp, avoid rp, not rping = worse than hacking, get banned

[Que]

Well done, guys!

[Link9rly]

The players on the server tonight (just now) have demonstrated perfectly what the new rule is about: a large gathering of criminals (50+ players online) from different families having a clean interaction with not a single shot fired. This is what roleplay is about, well done guys!

Good shit, guys. Let's all keep at it. This is a team effort. It doesn't matter if you're a criminal, cop or anything else.

[Devin]

Is it too soon to celebrate? What I can say is that I am glad to see how sensible the situation was earlier on the "island" involving multiple criminal groups and even police. Even the situation after that was rather calm until the end. Either way it is safe to say it was something motivating to witness.

[Jay42]

The players on the server tonight (just now) have demonstrated perfectly what the new rule is about: a large gathering of criminals (50+ players online) from different families having a clean interaction with not a single shot fired. This is what roleplay is about, well done guys!

Why i'm not there when i started it!!?? Joking hahaha, good game boys, let's keep this up YET it ended in a shootout, but a strategist, cool and fully RP one. Never seen so many guys in the same RP/Scenario since i logged at RS5. We are Argonath! Let's get it activity back!!!

[brian1996]

Way to kill off the community.

[Teddy]

Way to kill off the community.

Yes, enforce roleplay in a roleplay server, HOW COULD WE DO THAT?

[Teddy]

@Teddy.

I just want to say one thing.....never trust your feelings! hahaha =)

I don't. I trust my brain, much more reliable.

pls tell me this is a rule that will STAY and is not something to get more players IG...

Go refuse to roleplay and find out

My God, I didn't expect to see so many retards complaining about RPing in a RP server, good for this damn server for finally making a stance, Jesus f**cking Christ.

Did you forget which forums you were on? I expected this. I actually looked forward to it and I have a list of people who will be watched now extra closely so they can join my fuck off list. Those who don't deserve to be here stood up nice and tall for us to identify within this topic.

I applaud those that took this and went in-game and took charge to promote that new frontier of actually interacting and roleplaying in-game. That is what this community should be about. Players creating unique stories and memories here. It's sad we have to do it by force but hopefully with this we can keep those here who want it and leave them undisturbed by the morons who forget what kind of server this actually is and what it means to be in one.

[Solis]

Brian's a turd, don't mind him.

The problem isn't that this rule is too vague, although more clarification would certainly be appreciated since players here are notorious for finding loopholes to every rule and script. The problem is that people are taking it to the extreme and thinking they made a point. I saw the same thing happen in the "no blips" topic where some folks answered to that proposal with "well you might as well remove public chat and name tags while you're at it". Stop being a myopic idiot who only sees this in black-and-white terms. Enforcing role-play more strictly doesn't mean we have to become stricter than even LS:RP or that we have to start banning people for every little trivial detail that common sense dictates won't be punishable. We don't have to choose between your extremes. There's a lot of room in the middle where this rule is supposed to be enforced but the black-and-white thinking of some players prevents them from using common sense.

[Manoni]

This is a great and it was more than necessary. Hope to see how the new rule makes some changes within the players and their interactions in roleplay.

[Devin]

At times it takes an extreme move to resolve a stagnant issue, in this case it is fair to say it has started to work. And as long as it continues to work we will keep enforcing it.
The only way to get banned is by not giving a damn, so anyone that does get banned for not following this change must not want to play.

[beLTa]

This gotta be a great rule. Cool addition!

[Johan_S]

We've been living with this rule since time ago, after few scenarios and few clarifications although few managed to escape its consequences but many got temp-banned and overall received the lessons.

Currently for my opinion this rule is announced to create the server-wide impact and to inform everyone that once you refuse the roleplay scenario which the other party is attempting by interaction would lead to insta-ban once a player report.

From my experience (not trying to bullshit to anyone okay) this rule has its benefits and consequences (not really sure but few clarifications are needed to define). Its true that obligates the roleplay by this increases the roleplay in large scale but my doubts still remain: what will happen or how will be treated the repetitive roleplays (designed from bunch of peoples which the only objective is to get rid from other groups) such as constant robbery, constant kidnaps for weak reasons and other lame excuses to harass psychologically certain players and probably to get them banned. (this is nothing new, and HQ is aware.)

How will administration handle a player who refuses to be robbed/kidnapped for the fifth time in 30 minutes?

Yeah I got my own ideas, and who's thinking about the "also called Common sense" must think again because doesn't apply equal within Argonath.

I think again that such scenarios must be built in complex confrontation and with more than two or three(or more) episodes which would require effort from both parts who are in. Its very popular the strategy i mentioned above for /id xxx /area id ANA /cbalert spam /s pull over, pull over - fire - /cbmission. So if we're enforcing the roleplay we must enforce it from the seeds that we're throwing to build an roleplay, therefore, a clarification regarding "lame excuses" would be great for our knowledge.


Regarding to the roleplay of yesterday which is in here as example of this "new" addition, I really doubt if was result of this topic since I was the one in charge (on few sectors) but we had lack of players (lately inactive) which don't have limit or boundaries of gaming or roleplay and take things way to serious and personally (turning even to RL events) which at first sight would set the fire for the lamest excuse ever. It's not the first time we set up huge confrontations between many groups but never lasted so long. Just adding an example here: was a guy yesterday (2 minutes before the moment of the picture) badly wanting my attention provoking all-in and the mutual luck of everyone was that in that moment I was completely alone in front of the "enemy" camp. So no one from my side heard or saw his behavior toward me. With this i mean that is just needed an little negative point to burn in seconds everything. I mean no one would tolerate a stranger go hard on his leader, but argonath doesn't have limits of character development, everyone can do everything at any moment, you're boss and homeless in change of seconds. A guy who was all day fireman left the duty and got himself in front of two large camps going hard leader of the enemy will probably cause mayhem, not because his abilities are limitied but that is what he wants, therefore, I totally ignored him.

I swallowed my pride, and focused on roleplay for the sake of the roleplay, and the moment when the picture was taken was the WIN. It lasted 2:30-3:00 hours and seems like everyone enjoyed.

[Devin]

How will administration handle a player who refuses to be robbed/kidnapped for the fifth time in 30 minutes?

There should always be a means to get out of a situation via a roleplay means, those running around doing the same thing like going after a person to kidnap them for no reason would also warrant punishment of sorts if the only thing they can do is kidnap or rob people with little to no roleplay.

People need to realise it's not all about winning, if you want to roleplay robbing someone don't just expect them to let you rob them, obviously people would do what they can to avoid it. The biggest factor is to not force the roleplay, don't do something foolish like expect them to just give up if you write *takes the car keys* or something.

[Mr. Goobii]

My activity has shrunk quite a lot, but I find it nice to hear such good statements from the administration. I'll be glad to visit soon again! 

[brian1996]

Yes, enforce roleplay in a roleplay server, HOW COULD WE DO THAT?

I do understand your point but what's is being enforced now is against argovision afaik.