[Unbanned] Charlie_Corleone banned by Marcel

[CharlieKasper]

Your in-game name:
Charlie_Corleone

Ban reason as was stated in-game:
Deathmatching

Admin who banned you:
Marcel

When you were banned:
20:18 GMT +5:30

Additional notes:
Approached Monte in the alley behind the businesses in pershing square, asking him to stop. He ran over Richard in an attempt to escape to only stop infront of LSPD. There Monte was hit by Richard's car when he exited his car and later when we were several meters away from him he aimed/shot at us. We went to him when he entered LSPD and killed him. Some time later Marcel asked me why did we kill Monte to which I replied that he aimed at us right infront of LSPD. Got banned a minute or two later.

[Marcel]

For reference:

You were banned due to what happened during your 'interaction' with Monte that you mentioned above. You clearly were out to kill him. Once he fled you gave chase without any roleplay involved at that point besides "/s stop!". Even though he did aim at you, that wasn't a valid reason to kill him. Therefore, your actions are classed as deathmatching and have resulted in a ban due to you being a veteran who should be aware of the rules we have in this community.

You were banned due to being involved in the situation as described above. While you were not at the center of this (which should have resulted in a lighter punishment), I expected you to not engage in the DM (as Richard did). You went inside LSPD which begs the question: did you intend on participating in the shootout or did you blindly follow Richard?

[CharlieKasper]

You clearly were out to kill him.

If we were clearly out to kill him we wouldn't have left him after he reached LSPD. He aimed at us AFTER we left him whilst infront of LSPD. I just happened to have a working mouse to look around after leaving him at LSPD.
Don't assume anything, please.

Once he fled you gave chase without any roleplay involved at that point besides "/s stop!"

FYI, we said stop after he attempted to drive away from the situation, then he ran over Richard.

I would like to know how to roleplay a chase when he drove away without giving us a chance to say anything else. And then the chase was so small I don't think we could say anything while just driving for about 100 meters. As I said, we left him after he reached LSPD. After that, he aimed/shot.

Even though he did aim at you, that wasn't a valid reason to kill him.

A group of class A mobs who attempted to rob you but left you alone after you run over one of them and reach LSPD, yet you still decide to aim at them while you are not even out of their sight. Nope, not a reason.

did you intend on participating in the shootout or did you blindly follow Richard?

He aimed at me and my mobsters, I had the complete intention of killing him.
EDIT: (But would probably have taken him away if I had entered earlier and seen him surrender in some form)

[Marcel]

Allright, since you have indicated you had the intention to kill him, this is now up to a manager.

[Devin]

The evidence provided by both parties shows that Charlie hadn't even shot therefore any form of punishment is seen as unnecessary.
One can't simply be punished for intent (to attack/kidnap a person) without doing something otherwise that would result in most players being banned for thinking about killing others.

Unbanned.