[Cannabis] Questions about ilegal farming.

[Link9rly]

Keep the system as it is and introduce growing weed in your own house, it will produce less(fertile land weed harvestshould go back to original) but a lot more risk free.

I agree with this. I also think that cops should be able to raid and seize elaborate operations with this system but agree none-the-less. There should not be a risk-free way to produce illegal substances but it shouldn't be like it is now. It's just blatant camping without roleplay at spots.

[Julio.]

Depends where you grow it. Recently somebody thought it was a great idea to plant an entire stash of seeds at LSAP, which was obviously a completely stupid idea.

Grow it somewhere not obvious, there are plenty of places people literally don't go at all, explore the map at bit. Then don't sit there waiting for it to become ready, set your alarm for 2 hours 55 minutes or something and drive/fly back when it's done...

Of course if you sit at a field for 3 hours as a blip in an obvious location you're going to be caught, call yourselves criminals? 

[Johan_S]

System indeed is incredible and i'm very happy with it, I enjoyed a lot the planting. The problem is that thanks to non-roleplay ways we are easily caught, it's just a minimap blip far away from a rigorous camping which have only one orientation, sadly.

Depends where you grow it. Recently somebody thought it was a great idea to plant an entire stash of seeds at LSAP, which was obviously a completely stupid idea.

Grow it somewhere not obvious, there are plenty of places people literally don't go at all, explore the map at bit. Then don't sit there waiting for it to become ready, set your alarm for 2 hours 55 minutes or something and drive/fly back when it's done...

Of course if you sit at a field for 3 hours as a blip in an obvious location you're going to be caught, call yourselves criminals? 

I think you're wrong. Doesn't matter where you are, a blip will pass by and wait a convoy.

[Link9rly]

...as a blip

I think we found the problem.

[Julio.]

System indeed is incredible and i'm very happy with it, I enjoyed a lot the planting. The problem is that thanks to non-roleplay ways we are easily caught, it's just a minimap blip far away from a rigorous camping which have only one orientation, sadly.

I think you're wrong. Doesn't matter where you are, a blip will pass by and wait a convoy.

Wrong? You're telling me the SAPD is going to come across a few weed plants sitting on their lonesome in Whetstone when there's no blip by them to give them away?

And what sort of dope puts every single plant in the same location:
    A) A cop/civilian can more easily see a large group of plants
    B) When you lose one plant, you lose everything

I don't see how this is a difficult concept to grasp. If you were growing marijuana in the open would you grow it on a local playing field?? NO!

[Julio.]

I think we found the problem.

What fool camps for 3 hours by their weed spot anyway?

[Ben.]

I think we found the problem.

I'd say it was less of a big problem and more like a little blip.

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Apologies, that was a terrible joke. 

[Johan_S]

Wrong? You're telling me the SAPD is going to come across a few weed plants sitting on their lonesome in Whetstone when there's no blip by them to give them away?

And what sort of dope puts every single plant in the same location:
    A) A cop/civilian can more easily see a large group of plants
    B) When you lose one plant, you lose everything

I don't see how this is a difficult concept to grasp. If you were growing marijuana in the open would you grow it on a local playing field?? NO!

I respect your opinion very much logical, but what I am trying to point out with my comment in this topic is that the origin is not roreplay but is a blip in the minimap which raises the curiosity of the players.

[Link9rly]

You're telling me the SAPD is going to come across a few weed plants sitting on their lonesome in Whetstone when there's no blip by them to give them away?

blip by them to give them away

blip

Congratulations. You're just proving my point.

I don't see how this is a difficult concept to grasp. If you were growing marijuana in the open would you grow it on a local playing field?? NO!

The point is that you wouldn't have found it without blips.

[Julio.]

I respect your opinion very much logical, but what I am trying to point out with my comment in this topic is that the origin is not roreplay but is a blip in the minimap which raises the curiosity of the players.

You're just proving my point.
The point is that you wouldn't have found it without blips.

This isn't real life. If we were replicating real life then lets limit growing of weed to purchased properties, with heaters, and make them take a real length of time to grow shall we.



The blip issue is off topic. Want to raise it as an idea? Create a new topic.

[Ben.]

Would it be worth shutting down the blip discussion and taking it elsewhere?
Its sort of in the context of this but is really a wider discussion.

If it is discussed elsewhere, I'd love to put some input into the conversation and hear other people's thoughts.

[Mikro]

Removing the blips does not even matter in this case. Just like how criminals know the places, cops will also know. They will come anyways. So don't even try to turn this into a bullshit "remove blips" discussion.

For all I know the best solution is to disable the whole system. Everyone seems to be just driven by way too much greed. The Argonath mentality.

[Devin]

Q1: If I'm at the planted field and someone come, can I shoot him if he doesn't leave or he threats me?
Q2: Can I fight against the police to protect my plants if they catch me growing/harvesting or if I catch them taking my plants?
Q3: What would I do if police catch me near planted fields? (Might not be mines)
Q4: Police might be camping fertile lands and go after each blip in map to catch weed growers, what should I do to proect my weed? They can see the bush and stay there till it becomes ready to harvest.
Q5: To steal someone's weed. I kill the farmer who has grown fields. Can I take his plants after 3h? Is he avaliable to take the weed again if dead?
Q6: If someone is harvesting, am I allowed to go and steal his plants even just bcz I want to?
Q7: In which cases is police allowed to block the fields and take the plants?
Q8: Am I allowed to STOP others grow weed at my property?

• Roleplay with the person, see what you can do without just going ahead and killing a person for not leaving such as threats or anything roleplay related
• Growing weed is illegal therefore you would not want to be assocaited with a field, anyone with any logic would cut their losses and move on if a field of narcotics that they planted ended up seized by the police. There will always be a risk when it comes to drugs, in this case it is losing products due to police finding it when people get greedy and plant far too much in an area.
• If police catch you near the field it is as simple as 1+1, a person near narcotics would be assumed to be the person responsible for growing it. Up to the cops how they deal with it in roleplay.
• Protecting weed? That is not the case if police find it and go to the spot, no one with any logic would run up to police threatening them with guns when their plants have been confiscated or seized unless they have a death wish.
• It's not as simple as just killing a person and taking the drugs, we have rules against returning to a roleplay after death. Seeing as it takes so many hours for drugs to grow I see no reason why they can't just take the drugs. It isn't like you are going to sit there for 3 hours waiting for the plants to grow. It all comes down to greed vs roleplay and it seems greed is the only thing that matters now.
• Do you even roleplay? You don't simply run up and take something from a person without roleplay.
• In any cases cops can seize a field in roleplay, growing weed is illegal, it is essentially part of their job to keep drugs off of the streets and that begins with the production of the drugs.
• Weed fields aren't owned by anyone, they are all public land. But of course, you could always roleplay.

[Link9rly]

This isn't real life. If we were replicating real life then lets limit growing of weed to purchased properties, with heaters, and make them take a real length of time to grow shall we.
The blip issue is off topic. Want to raise it as an idea? Create a new topic.

I guess in real life, I can only grow weed indoors.

Would it be worth shutting down the blip discussion and taking it elsewhere?
Its sort of in the context of this but is really a wider discussion.

If it is discussed elsewhere, I'd love to put some input into the conversation and hear other people's thoughts.

It's the elephant in the room. I'm glad to see that others are beginning to see how those tiny squares on the map ruin roleplay scenarios, including those pertaining to weed farming.

Removing the blips does not even matter in this case. Just like how criminals know the places, cops will also know. They will come anyways. So don't even try to turn this into a bullshit "remove blips" discussion.

For all I know the best solution is to disable the whole system. Everyone seems to be just driven by way too much greed. The Argonath mentality.

It was a great idea but it seems like it just led back to camping. Really sad. I wouldn't have a problem if the cops found the place via their own intuition but the point is that they didn't. They found it through what's technically considered metagaming. It's contradictory. I'll stop evangelising "no blips" in this topic but I'm hoping the discussion starts again elsewhere.

[.Matthew.]

Agree with Mikro, people going too crazy over weed and are ignoring most attempts of roleplay at the weed fields, rather keep jumping around harvesting as much as they can until they get tempbanned by an admin. Script changed, mentality didn't. As cool as the script may be, it must be more challenging and harder to avoid what happens now.