Criminals: stop and think about this

[.Matthew.]

When did the case you keep mentioning happen? 2012? did I just not write a whole essay few pages behind and say how people have to stop taking things and situations that happen personally and stop dragging them along for years to come and have to stop considering old and new generations the same?

You need to drop the attitude that you need to win all the time in every situation, the attitude that you always must have a way to escape being caught. There are many who do it nowadays without being caught, without any script changes, advantages and so on. What's your problem in doing it? Just cannot accept to lose for once and end up in court?

[TrotlDebilni]

@TonySforza
Oh, I thought that was just a funzie roleplay, what's the point of getting caught if they will take your life anyway, and I do agree, I wouldn't trust anyone to take a CK decision, we would basically be getting CKed daily.

I think the punishments should be lighter, it's fun to bribe the judge, the jury, finding loopholes, but it isn't fun to get fully wiped. The only thing on the line should be your notoriety and maybe like a max 100k fine.


But there has to be some benefit for doing it (if people for some reason aren't doing it to roleplay) because it's ridiculous to see the owner of a giant mafia kill himself, respawn and walk it off like "lel FBI git gud".


@.Matthew.

I am the first person to roleplay with the FBI, but let's not make accusations on who doesn't want to roleplay when you are asking for someone to get totally wiped like he is a money hacker, when I got unbanned Teddy wiped my account of like 15k and I was miffed, I can't imagine how pissed someone would be losing like 130mil over a court case when he voulentarely instead of killing himself like everyone decided to roleplay with you.

Why would the person role-playing be punished more than the person ignoring roleplay?

[Teddy]

We have a proposed solution to this that I like, note this is proposed and not official:

Quite simply if you elect a character kill for immunity from rp routes, you must contact staff to reset your account back to default. When you die, you loose everything. All items, all properties, all vehicles, all money, ALL assets. Your character is truly killed off.

I know many of you will reject this because of your fucking pathetic "winning" complex. However if you can propose a better solution to close the gap of abuse on the rules I suggest you do so now.

[TrotlDebilni]

Quite simply if you elect a character kill for immunity from rp routes, you must contact staff to reset your account back to default. When you die, you loose everything. All items, all properties, all vehicles, all money, ALL assets. Your character is truly killed off.

SCREW THIS RULE I HAVE A WINNING COMPLEX!

I totally agree with this.. as long as there will be an actual discussion had over the death, not just an one sided argument. But at that point why even CK yourself because you will be arguing over it anyway!

This is a brilliant solution because it will make lazy people do something! But than again I'm not a criminal so I really have no argument in this case.

[TiMoN]

I know many of you will reject this because of your f**cking pathetic "winning" complex. However if you can propose a better solution to close the gap of abuse on the rules I suggest you do so now.

New name, can't roleplay with same group or the same path.

[Manoni]

If the "winning" complex doesn't jumps to the stage what will happen instead is that we will have all mafias going against other mafias with their "rp" attempts to character kill them all until there's nothing left.

The mentality of several players here is not capable enough to handle such rules without wanting to take advantage of it.

[Norrage]

New name, can't roleplay with same group or the same path.

Won't work. Would require way too much administration since players will always try to interact with their previous group.

[Mark_DeCaval]

Maybe there should be more emergency related rp, so when you are badly wounded you cant shoot anymore, same as tazer animation, but you can get revived at hospital if rescued on time.

It should be like you fall down when your hp goes below 30 percent or something without any futher complicayions with bodyparts damage system. If you get shoot on the ground you still die.

 Also adding some revive time if you die for good would be nice to prevent returning after death for both sides. So you will actually start to care if you die or not.

Edit: During waiting for revival of your character you wont be able to type to prevent for example cops calling for backup after they already died or notyfying other units of other people involved in it. Same for criminal or civilian to prenent calling friend for revenge, good for cooling down and thinking of the fact thats its all just a game.

[TrotlDebilni]

The mentality of several players here is not capable enough to handle such rules without wanting to take advantage of it.

Hopefully there will be managers that will decide if it's a valid RP argument for CK, although it is a bit of an overkill I don't think it should be used for every minor thing, but totally if you are clearly evading roleplay.

I mean we could go in the other way and instead of punishing people ignoring roleplay we could reward the ones that roleplay.

New name, can't roleplay with same group or the same path.

Okay, calm down satan

[Ramo_Hawk]

If the "winning" complex doesn't jumps to the stage what will happen instead is that we will have all mafias going against other mafias with their "rp" attempts to character kill them all until there's nothing left.

The mentality of several players here is not capable enough to handle such rules without wanting to take advantage of it.

I'm not sure if they speaking about character killing other groups' mafias, if so, its bollocks. You can only character kill your own group players and not even if that is so should his entire account be resetted.. people put a lot of hard work into gaining virtual money which is already pointless to me, and killing them afterwards? nah.

Maybe there should be more emergency related rp, so when you are badly wounded you cant shoot anymore, same as tazer animation, but you can get revived at hospital if rescued on time.

It should be like you fall down when your hp goes below 30 percent or something without any futher complicayions with bodyparts damage system. If you get shoot on the ground you still die.

 Also adding some revive time if you die for good would be nice to prevent returning after death for both sides. So you will actually start to care if you die or not.

No fuck that, if I lost a war, I lost, simple. I ain't spending a lifetime waiting for a medic to come and save me, I died, screw it.

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I don't get how you people managed to start this conversation, why not leave it as it is?

[Mark_DeCaval]

No fuck that, if I lost a war, I lost, simple. I ain't spending a lifetime waiting for a medic to come and save me, I died, screw it.

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I don't get how you people managed to start this conversation, why not leave it as it is?

This is the exact kind of thinking that forced us to discuss all of it in the first place.

[Ramo_Hawk]

This is the exact kind of thinking that forced us to discuss all of it in the first place.

Lol? You're trying to change the entire bloody gameplay with your stupid methods fam. You want this kind of bullshit? Change communities. I joined this community 8 years ago because it didn't limit people to what they can do. Your method will basically get people to call for back up over skype in order to have more manpower and just more blood baths.

[Rei]

We have a proposed solution to this that I like, note this is proposed and not official:

Quite simply if you elect a character kill for immunity from rp routes, you must contact staff to reset your account back to default. When you die, you loose everything. All items, all properties, all vehicles, all money, ALL assets. Your character is truly killed off.

I know many of you will reject this because of your f**cking pathetic "winning" complex. However if you can propose a better solution to close the gap of abuse on the rules I suggest you do so now.

Hell no.

[TruthSvensson]

Why don't you punish those people according to the rules instead of calling them "shits"?

[Huntsman]

There have been enough military groups in Argonath that failed and brought nothing but issues and trouble.
Not happening again, got that confirmed 

That's because of the questionable selection of leaders and the fact that none of those groups have been properly interpreted into the constitution which would describe their rights and conduct. Such group should be created by the HQ, not some wannabes.