FLA vs ARPD - Let's talk

[Arslan]

You are and you did. If you took that as I am angry then you lack the skills of having a hard argumentative discussion which is actually needed in here. I am just taking the chance of this being dropped out into the public face and the naked truth being shown to everyone to ensure keeping FLA's newly role-play style within the server. Like I said earlier, I've played with the 3 role-play faces; the top criminals, the innocent citizen and the top cop. I know all the old tricks and tools on how each side work which is rather disgusting to.., nvm you won't understand anyways.

Point of topic is to reach common ground and how we can improve interaction not to close FLA and nor do my posts suggest that so I actually have no idea what you're talking about.

Again I will quote my previous post, I think this can be a good way to make nice RP scenarios in-game which involve big numbers:
I am actually in favor of group leaders talking to each other in trying to create a good RP scene together if there are mass numbers on both sides if there is like a confrontation of FLA V Cops. Like explain to each other how we gonna play it out and reach common grounds on the end. Of course I am talking about like BIG RPs where there are big numbers involved which end up in DM.

[Mikal]

don't make the FLA the next one, at least for the damn sake of what's left in this SA:MP division.

I had forgotten that CIA were in a similar position, I guess FBI couldn't handle having a similar organisation about?

Regardless, FLA is rooted deep in the server now, it's not going anywhere.

Also we've also tried a traffic stop, all they do is /engine and vanish.

Get some faster cars or better drivers then?

Please, be my guest and tell me how that action of tevins differs from when FLA was surrounded by cops and tased without a word said by the cops even after Mikal tried to speak with one of the officers and was plainly ignored? If you want to say tevins actions are wrong then in the same light all of the officers that tased FLA members at their HQ are in the wrong too.

Oh thank you Devin! First time I've seen any HQ member mention that situation in a way which details how sort of wrong it was...

The fact that they were warned several times on the way to the barn and that there was interaction within the situation beforehand?

Warned? You followed us for like 20 minutes around Los Santos, rammed the crap out of Dan/Hubbe's truck at the toll, did the same up until the barn then just parked up staring at us, when I attempted to communicate you guys, you completely ignored me, instead just tasing the fuck out of us and then acting like it was a normal day at the office where everything was handled properly, it's all on video, why try to say anything otherwise?


As I have said, perhaps we can arrange some sort of ceasefire in-game via RP methods, there's no point carrying on the argument on the forums, it's just flooding the forum and making the community look even more unstable.

[Devin]

I do accept there are errors on both sides. What is needed is stronger management of groups from both sides. Any flaws, the people responsible should be pulled out after and explained what to change after by their leaders.

Indeed people make mistakes, now can we get to the point of the issues between parties? This is a roleplay server and everyone is here to be entertained and have a good time. When issues like this arise no one has a good time.

[Arslan]

Indeed people make mistakes, now can we get to the point of view the issues between parties? This is a roleplay server and everyone is here to be entertained and have a good time. When issues like this arise no one has a good time.

I believe the next step in this topic is not to say you did this or that but suggest how things can change. I've posted a suggestion above, I hope others can too or add to my idea.

[Marcell]

Let's just sort this out in roleplay manners, make a pseudo meeting/conference or something.

[Arslan]

Let's just sort this out in roleplay manners, make a pseudo meeting/conference or something.

I had an idea of FBI+SAPD/SWAT heads some how contact FLA leaders through whatever RP means we'll see. Have a long debate in-game/meeting with really right security on what bothers them, what changes they want to see and what laws they are against etc and see how many changes can be made and reach common grounds on laws and make proposal to Supreme Court.

Though since FLA is a rebel group I'm not sure achieving peace is a goal on their objective list.

[Khm]

I'd rather see HQ/ government officials (like mayors, supreme judge) taking action in this to cease fire instead of LE heads as it will only be ink on papers, we've proved countless of times that they are not capable in doing such stuff, the plans behind the scenes will always make sure to have personal advantages in the whole situation.

[Marcell]

I'd rather see HQ/ government officials (like mayors, supreme judge) taking action in this to cease fire instead of LE heads as it will only be ink on papers, we've proved countless of times that they are not capable in doing such stuff, the plans behind the scenes will always make sure to have personal advantages in the whole situation.

I think the judge should be present yes, wouldn't make sense if only law enforcement would decide what to do about a territorial government case.

[Luke]

I had forgotten that CIA were in a similar position, I guess FBI couldn't handle having a similar organisation about?

Detective Bureau also buddy, don't forget the days of my regin. 


We don't need no cease fire or shit, what we need is things roleplayed more and actully effort put in rather then shot on sight or "his wearing a mask instant FLA"  there is loads of ways this whole situation can go down and there are ways very simple ones that can make it that little bit better.

- Don't provoke eachother before/after a gunfight
See this to much, someone dies and the whole of the side where not roleplaying or DMing, not the case you was easily overwhelemed simple as.

- Don't go looking for trouble
If FLA are all at Angel Pine so fucking what leave them be, they aint doing shit, no need to go snooping or sending someone over every 5mins. (Constantly)
Same applies on the other side.

- Don't get personal
This seems to be over and over again also people provoking eachother personally in hate over the mainchat and forums rather then saving it for the ingame argument, use all your rage in RP 

Just following them three things could make this whole situaiton alot better.

[Arslan]

I think the judge should be present yes, wouldn't make sense if only law enforcement would decide what to do about a territorial government case.

The idea was to reach common ground first then it would go to a judge. Law enforcement doesn't decide what would happen but it could be discussed to reach a common ground since the reason FLA want that territory is because it has an issue with the justice system and law enforcement.

[Drix]

Detective Bureau also buddy, don't forget the days of my regin. 

That was on you, buddy.

[Luke]

That was on you, buddy.

Sure was but it didn't help with the assistance of other little BUDDIES. Buddy.
(This aint about me so lets not turn it to that)

[Drix]

Sure was but it didn't help with the assistance of other little BUDDIES. Buddy.
(This aint about me so lets not turn it to that)

You made it about you. Buddy!

[Devin]

You made it about you. Buddy!

Spoiler for Hiden:

[Luke]

You made it about you. Buddy!

Yeah let's not Mr Chief. After all I can be tossed to the side and easily replaced, dpmo.