Current issues

[Whiteman]

I tried contacting the groups and families board administrators about cleaning up the board with inactive topics or as the rule states "Topics which haven't been posted in for 90 days". Hope it gets cleaned up soon, no results yet!

[Devin]

IV Corruption and Abuse
   With every social system there will be corruption and abuse. On servers like this one, sure, an admin might give his good friend a cheeky teleport every now and again. That’s not what I’ll be talking about here though, this appears to be much, much worse. It has recently come to my attention that certain groups have an incorrect status. One of these groups is TheodoreEnterprise. It is a group that is listed as the protector on many of the prime properties throughout the map which hold a great value and even more unused RP potential. This group has  six members only one of which is showing activity in-game. It has official status. Another group is TEResearch, RPly a department of the previously mentioned group. This group doesn’t have it’s own topic but is mentioned in the Theodore Enterprise topic. It is mentioned in the topic 7 times, one of which was to establish its existence, two were job listings, three hiring notices and the last was a progress update. It’s your run of the mill corporate group with little to no activity. This group has official and criminal status which is odd since it doesn’t meet criteria to even be recognised and is nowhere even hinted as being a criminal group. Another interesting thing is that one of the members of the group is Grandpa Corleone who is set as rank 71 (high enough to have drug market access with the highest prices possible). This individual is nowhere mentioned in the forum topic. Clearly there’s been a gross misuse of power here and it needs to be investigated thoroughly to determine who has and in what way made all of this possible and has profited from it.

I have began addressing issues just like the one you stated here, sadly I can't be everywhere all of the time to monitor everything going on around the server both ingame and on the forum. The issue brought up here however has already been partially resolved however there's still more to deal with. Regarding a group being listed as a protector hardly means anything so I don't exactly know why you bring this up. The property owner themselves set whoever they want as a protector.

[djole]

Fearfully avoiding the fourth paragraph? No... it's because nobody who had answered can answer that question yet.

Then who can?

In regards to the group topics, we have NEVER restricted a forum board to strictly IC, because, you know what, it kinda sucks to be honest with you. I never personally liked the idea of using an out of game medium to carry on IC.

The forums are currently riddled with posts alike “good luck”, “thanks”, “hey hi hello”, “hey guys just checking in”, “y0 chek out dis sick tune lads <ytvid>” etc. The forum administration could write up a set of rules the users must abide by e.g. no off topic OR even any unnecessary OOC content in the Groups and Families board, zero tolerance for provoking or flaming of any sort etc.

I didn't suggest OOC communication be barred completely I merely believe it would be a good idea to somehow lower the amount of spam.

Haha, I'm going to focus on Para 4, and only Para 4.
Don't worry yourself about it, and enjoy your own gameplay. There's things in life you should worry about...but this isn't one of them.

I find it funny!

I find it funny when majority of players are called abusing cunts for cmd or group abuse while the rest isn't doing or showing a good example. This sure is a small thing that tbh most of people won't even care about, too bad , someone should remember it the next time he will be called cunt or abuser.

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You don't need a jungle of rules or a 600 page book to list them all.

Most servers survive with 10 listed rules with outlined punishments, if it ever comes to an skin's decision, it's probably a special scenario.

I do realise that. However I do believe that there is a set of extremely common circumstances which could be further abstracted to form a rule of the aforementioned rulebook. Maybe this isn't the greatest idea, it just often seems so to me. It's equally counterproductive to have three different administrators give a rulebreaker a pass, warn and ban.

Where exactly did you see me advocate for a jungle of rules or a 600 page book? In fact your own suggestion seems to be in line with mine... Perhaps instead of 10, we could have 20 or 30 rules or however many necessary to describe to most common scenario types.

I have began addressing issues just like the one you stated here, sadly I can't be everywhere all of the time to monitor everything going on around the server both ingame and on the forum. The issue brought up here however has already been partially resolved however there's still more to deal with.

I'm glad to hear it. I hope you will not stop until everyone involved in this instance of profiteering script abuse is discovered and punished justly. Perhaps the scripting team could put into place certain alerts for actions that aren't performed very often but can be detrimental to the servers economy e.g. changing groups' statuses, spawning items, money..

I urge everyone to read the topic in its entirety and also the replies that have already been posted before replying themselves.

[Julio.]

Then who can?

Theodore Enterprises -> Teddy

[Luke]

I'll do once I announce the moderator wave tomorrow.

said that on monday m9

[TheGreasyChopper]

The punishment a staff member issues is their own decision, if you don't like a decision a staff member has made the best option for you is to send a report in to server management.  I wouldn't go calling out the administration team in this topic based on decisions that you didn't think were justified.  Again if you have problems with administration, you know who to go to.

What happens when the admin you report is the one who handles the report? Or when the one who handles it is good friends? I don't say that admins shouldn't be friends but you gotta put work infront of personal relations. And there should be a rule that a member of the administration can't handle reports against him or members of his groups.

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As for the group problem, the only way that I see the issue being fixed is a modernization, return and update of ARUN, in which some members of it(or all of them) become some sort of "Head of Groups"/"Head of Clans" etc. position, in which your task is to maintain the general affairs of groups. (And perhaps limit the number of groups who can take part of it and raise the requirements of one joining.

[TiMoN]

In fact your own suggestion seems to be in line with mine...

Because it is, sherlock.

[Marcell]

It's rather interesting how you complain about redundant groups owning big amount of properties when you own 1/4 of Los Santos yourself and I've never seen you organize any mass RPs.....
That being said I do think official groups are a joke, you know something is wrong when a group that's been around for just 1 year and has only 10 topic pages has an official status.

[strik3r]

It's rather interesting how you complain about redundant groups owning big amount of properties when you own 1/4 of Los Santos yourself and I've never seen you organize any mass RPs.....

Not roleplaying with "everyone" doesn't actually mean that he doesn't roleplay. we (as GSF) and Araatus do roleplay with barabe. your group does not have to be popular in game to notice if they roleplay or not. And yes he does own most of downtown due to his "RP" scenes which he use probably. you dont have to rp with every single person in server so they judge if they rp or not. besides its clearly 3/4 of role plays end with DM even for "car accidents"

[Marcell]

Not roleplaying with "everyone" doesn't actually mean that he doesn't roleplay. we (as GSF) and Araatus do roleplay with barabe. your group does not have to be popular in game to notice if they roleplay or not. And yes he does own most of downtown due to his "RP" scenes which he use probably. you dont have to rp with every single person in server so they judge if they rp or not. besides its clearly 3/4 of role plays end with DM even for "car accidents"

Yes I agree with that, but he basically threw the same accusation in his first post at other people.

[TiMoN]

Not roleplaying with "everyone" doesn't actually mean that he doesn't roleplay. we (as GSF) and Araatus do roleplay with barabe. your group does not have to be popular in game to notice if they roleplay or not. "

I haven't seen a Barabe, GSF, or Araatus online this whole month, less for RP scenarios.

[FARQ3X]

Yes I agree with that, but he basically threw the same accusation in his first post at other people.

He owns downtown the place no one wants. Teddy owns all the wanted poperties. Also Djole bought it with legit cash.

[strik3r]

I haven't seen a Barabe, GSF, or Araatus online this whole month, less for RP scenarios.

Yes. if you noticed, players online this month has decreased, but this is due to exams. we do try to get on when we have  free time to do so. i'm not sure of other groups.

[TiMoN]

legit cash

can someone emphasize on how theodore enterprise got their "legit cash"
thx

[Mark]

I haven't seen a Barabe, GSF, or Araatus online this whole month, less for RP scenarios.

Nope i won't let you talk like that about us if you don't know anything.


Most of us are inactive for school, we all got final exams to attend and others got real life issues to deal with. Two of us got no PC at moment and they are doing their best to come back as soon possible. Even tho me and others got exams, we still come in-game to roleplay with others, the screenshots in our topic are just a part of what we do in-game.
I have no intention to come in-game and fuck around just to keep the activity of my group up. I hope i won't have to explain again the reasons behind the inactivity, it's obvious every group got ups and downs, we are still kicking in.