Protest (SAPD)

[Mark_DeCaval]

As a member of SAPD, I Marcus Ferreira herby protest against Argonath State treating SAPD members as trash. People that are working for ARPD are serving the state in any way they can, while the state is doing everything to make this job worst and worst.

Many of you don't know that but here is how things look like from our perspective:
- Chasing down criminal (that don't appear so often) takes about 20-30 minutes, depending on how well he was prepared for it (many times it's pursuit of only 2 avalible PD cars against an NRG) and even if we somehow manage to get the guy so he won't kill anyone else we get 100$!!!! If we fairly split it among pursuing officer, everyone gets 25$ or less, some don't even share it, so whoever didn't shoot him is left with his PD car to be rapaired so he's LOOSING money because he was working hard to catch criminal!!!!
- We are here to RP, fact, but for some time we are not even getting ticket money- it turnes into additional tax not being handed out to any government group(maybe beside FBI), there are times we want to go off duty, buy cars or houses or buisness- we simply can't even enter building with higher entry fee, being a cop is decreasing your budge day by day
- criminals are armed better and better while the officers- recently even outnumbered by organized criminal groups- have the same gun they were carring since the start of SAPD- deagle, baton and spray (10 years of working unaffected by progress)
- suspect processing- after we will catch the criminal, we want to provide him the treatment he won't have to complain about ((We simply like RP of investigation and other processing))- if we will somehow manage to even force him to surrender, that along with processing takes about 1 hour of our work and around 2 officers- for simple criminal we get 500$
- Off duty officers can't commit any crimes, so they are law respecting citizens, that are fighting cops vs robbers mentality

We agreed to our role in this state, but we did not agree to our working conditions to decrease day by day, the demands are:
- restoring of SAPD paychecks
- Bring some form of payment for SAPD recruits (a.k.a Freecops that are poorly equiped first line infantry)
- payment for the time paychecks were not handed out by government
- body armour for duty- or anything else to prevent other officers getting killed

Without this it will become harder and harder to recruit new members into department.

Without government reply to this protest it will become more then clear they will rather see us doing oil worker job than protecting this state, that we love so much.

Before anyone starts complaining, we are asking for about 15k for each member of SAPD(depends on rank) per month of working- which is less than you can get from 30 minutes of oil worker or mining job.

[Stivi]

But if you're protesting, who will protect us citizens?

[Mark_DeCaval]

Officers that will not join the protest.

[Sawyer]

But if you're protesting, who will protect us citizens?

Officers that will not join the protest.

Such a genius. 

[Mark_DeCaval]

Our brothers are getting killed for free. When will government respond?

[.Matthew.]

I'm more of a realistic person and I think it'd be better if:
- SAPD Cadet and higher gets shotgun or MP5 as standard duty weapon, and armor.
  - This can be vehicle based, each cruiser, rancher and so on has a gun rack with either two shotguns or two MP5s in it, and the officers can take it when needed.
- SAPD Recruit gets armor as standard equipment.

- Roleplay to be defined to what's acceptable and what not.
  - Unrealistic things like double characters, being five people and switching between whenever and however you feel like it.

- Rewriting the way suspections and MDC works.
   - Suspection shouldn't be a challenge and cops and robbers based thing where you need to catch x in y time or he'll escape. Crimes and charges should go on your record.
   - Record can be viewed in MDC, it would show all past and current charges, jail sentences, fines and so on.
   - To clear the record you have to submit an appeal on the ARPD forum / court.

- Rewriting the way notoriety works.
  - Gaining notoriety should be made so it's increased by committing crimes secretly / away from police, not by being wanted / charged and then running around to middle of nowhere to escape.

- Modernized equipment.
   - Drone at the moment is nothing but chat spam, it should be an actual RC vehicle like baron / goblin / bandit that can be controlled in certain diameter.

And with all that, the paychecks on monthly basis for the members.

[Mark_DeCaval]

For now we are just asking a a little bit of dignity, so we won't be doing everything for free. FBI is free to tag along. The equipment will be added.

[Marcell]

Here we go again 

[Mark_DeCaval]

Here we go again 

The only joke in all this is cop with deagle vs RPG.

[.Matthew.]

Here we go again 

Should be said every time you and your boys do it with RPGs at City Hall 

[Vaeldious]

Finally a cause that the Nomads can support

[TiMoN]

i think protests should be rp, no?

[Marcell]

Should be said every time you and your boys do it with RPGs at City Hall 

I wish that was true, we're too poor for that. It kinda shows human behavior by the way; a urban myth was created making everyone say we have 5000 RPGs, while the only ones used at CH and after that were owned by outsiders :P

Anyway, regarding your suggestion.
MP5 for cadets or freecops is always a no-no in my book. It degrades the need for honing an officer's skills with his sidearm (Deagle) as spamming MP5 everywhere with another officer is way easier than accurately placing your shots. It also creates a danger risk for citizens (in non-roleplay terms - civilians getting their armor shot off) because from my personal experience (and video footage) non SWAT/FBI units are usually apparently untrained in usage of automatic weapons, spraying it everywhere instead of using bursts.
I'd support free armors for any cops only if you weren't already getting free 2k armors.
Suspection and notoriety systems both need a drastic overhaul that would take away some aspects of the stone age, but to be honest - I think if it gets made, you guys will end up wanting it back after a while. It's already quite possible to rob someone in front of LSPD without any repercussions, so you could pretty much just go on huge gang war sprees with other groups as criminal without any repercussions from the police's side..... which sounds very tempting since pseudo stealth could come into play.
I'm not sure about drones since if you'd make them too useful they would basically end up as a legal camhack. Would be really easy to just patrol every weed spot using it for example, without bothering to go there.

[Mark_DeCaval]

i think protests should be rp, no?

Rp can't happen over forums. If you will encounter any officer taking part in protest, trust me, you will know it.

[Monty yate]

Supported. But there's no govt, or inactive  govt? :o