Law&Rule Suggestions for IV:MP

[Danny Soulson]

Hello!


These "Ideas" Are supposed to increase Roleplay on IV:MP. - Danny Soulson a.k.a. Scrylex

Addon suggestion for the server:


When LCPD Member types something in Radio it will add LCPD:
When FBI Member types something in Radio it will add FBI:
When NOoOSE Member types something in Radio it will add NOoOSE:
Allowing evading with boats.
Adding Police Boats.
When someone jails someone the whole Police force will get paid. (If someone abused this system he would be punished).
Adding that you need to exit the vehicle to buy fuel at gas stations and it should take 15 seconds.
Removing "Force-RP".

Server Rules that should be added:


If someone Endangered your life (Such as having a gun on you) you must comply as your life is in danger.
Using /pm for roleplay is Counted as Meta-Gaming.
Over exaggerated RP is not allowed unless both parties comply.
Money Hunt (Running for money,Stealing Suspects, Not working Together) is not allowed.
You are not allowed to be AFK as Emergency Jobs.



Traffic Laws that should be added:


Reckless Driving - Code Red (Driving on Sidewalks) Will be counted as Terrorism.
Reckless Driving - Code Blue (Driving on Left Lane and endangering civilian lifes)
Reckless Driving - Code Yellow (Not stopping on stop signs)
All Stops signs & Traffic lights require the driver to slow down to 20km/h


Law Enforcement & Emergency Service Rules that should be added:

ARPD Officers (Freecops) - Must use Official Vehicles.
ARPD Officers (Freecops) - Must follow traffic rules unless in Emergencies.
ARPD Officers (Freecops) - Must follow orders from higher officials.
LEO - Are not allowed to use guns unless its necessary.
ARPD Officers (Freecops) - Breaking traffic laws will be dealt with as normal citizens and recieve a fine(They can be pulled over by LCPD,FBI,NOoSE).
LCPD,FBI,NOoSE - Breaking traffic laws or state laws (While not in emergency) Should be reported to their Supervisor.
Paramedics,Firemans - Are not allowed to break laws.
Paramedics,Firemans - Must respond to All dispatches (Includes Kidnappings,Robberies though they can arrive after the Police secured the perimeter).
In Police Radios its not allowed to discuss, Its made for Reporting/Emergencies/Communication.
ARPD,LCPD - Members must do traffic stops, Unless it will be counted as Corruption.
In Terrorist situations Law Enforcement is allowed to use annihilator. Though usage of guns will be only allowed when there is a suspect using a boat to escape. Or the suspect is endagering public safety and annihilator can be used on the suspect only with civilians away from the fire at least 20 buildings.
ARPD,LCPD Must Patrol unless there is a good reason behind it. (On foot or with a vehicle).
Law Enforcer that uses his weapons on a other Emergency member without a reason to do so will be removed from the force for 30 days.[/li][/list]


For the "Force RP" People:
If you are saying anything of this is Force RP then Passports&Driving license is also Force RP.




My English isn't the best though i tried to make it clear, Thanks for reading. Please post your opinions for the ideas  

[Matt]

Removing "Force-RP".[/i]

Over exaggerated RP is not allowed unless both parties comply.

looks similar

[Danny Soulson]

looks similar

Force RP on IV:MP is a different thing. Its like If someone wants to kidnap someone and he says i dont wanna rp then there is no roleplay as its counted as Force RP

[superh2o]

Hello!

Addon suggestion for the server:


When LCPD Member types something in Radio it will add LCPD:
When FBI Member types something in Radio it will add FBI:
When NOoOSE Member types something in Radio it will add NOoOSE:

Should not be added for Noose, as its a must that you are eather FBI or ARPD in order to join or even apply for Noose

Still think there are client limitations here.

Allowing evading with boats.
Adding Police Boats.
When someone jails someone the whole Police force will get paid. (If someone abused this system he would be punished).
Adding that you need to exit the vehicle to buy fuel at gas stations and it should take 15 seconds.
Removing "Force-RP".[/i]

Ever tried to flip a boat? Its very hard, rule should not be removed nor LCPD Boats added.

The whole Police getting paid is just absurd, you will get paid for being AFK on duty??

Even if not AFK, you will get paid for 0 contribution in catching/killing the wanted player.

A very big NO.

Fuel system as it is now is ok, you move your car from gs before you fill up you get a small amount of fuel, you dont get a instant full gas tank, don't know why it seems not good for you.

Force RP part is Argonath Vision related, so not gonna happen.

If someone Endangered your life (Such as having a gun on you) you must comply as your life is in danger.
Using /pm for roleplay is Counted as Meta-Gaming.
Over exaggerated RP is not allowed unless both parties comply.
Money Hunt (Running for money,Stealing Suspects, Not working Together) is not allowed.
You are not allowed to be AFK as Emergency Jobs.[/i]

Its up to players to decide what kind of approach in RP will they pick, cooperate or die while running away.

Argonath dosnt support OCC/IC/powergaming/metagaming again players are free to take there pick what will they use and how.

Again up to players in RP

This one is common sense one, but if you have problems like this PM Staff members on forums it will be taken care off.

Again up to players,but yeah as little afk time as possible while playing is ideal, still this should never become a rule.

Traffic Laws that should be added:


Reckless Driving - Code Red (Driving on Sidewalks) Will be counted as Terrorism.
Reckless Driving - Code Blue (Driving on Left Lane and endangering civilian lifes)
Reckless Driving - Code Yellow (Not stopping on stop signs)
All Stops signs & Traffic lights require the driver to slow down to 20km/h

New traffic laws are in the making, but still this is too extreme.

Law Enforcement & Emergency Service Rules that should be added:

ARPD Officers (Freecops) - Must use Official Vehicles.
ARPD Officers (Freecops) - Must follow traffic rules unless in Emergencies.
ARPD Officers (Freecops) - Must follow orders from higher officials.
LEO - Are not allowed to use guns unless its necessary.
ARPD Officers (Freecops) - Breaking traffic laws will be dealt with as normal citizens and recieve a fine(They can be pulled over by LCPD,FBI,NOoSE).
LCPD,FBI,NOoSE - Breaking traffic laws or state laws (While not in emergency) Should be reported to their Supervisor.
Paramedics,Firemans - Are not allowed to break laws.
Paramedics,Firemans - Must respond to All dispatches (Includes Kidnappings,Robberies though they can arrive after the Police secured the perimeter).
In Police Radios its not allowed to discuss, Its made for Reporting/Emergencies/Communication.
ARPD,LCPD - Members must do traffic stops, Unless it will be counted as Corruption.
In Terrorist situations Law Enforcement is allowed to use annihilator. Though usage of guns will be only allowed when there is a suspect using a boat to escape. Or the suspect is endagering public safety and annihilator can be used on the suspect only with civilians away from the fire at least 20 buildings.
ARPD,LCPD Must Patrol unless there is a good reason behind it. (On foot or with a vehicle).
Law Enforcer that uses his weapons on a other Emergency member without a reason to do so will be removed from the force for 30 days.[/li][/list]

ARPD Free cops can use any vehicle they judge can help them carry out there dutys best, but they cna only suspect and pullover from Police owned vehicles. Thats how it is, and how it should stay.

LEO part, yeah that exists as well its the DM rule, that prevents use of guns for none to little RP reason.

LCPD officer have internal control higher ranked members and FBI agents who can do that. *both for freecops and higher ranked members of LEO*

EMS and Fireman should only come on scene when they are needed to avoid chaos.

Just use common sense in /r having a small talk in /r its fine, as it helps players connect and learn from others.

ARPD and LCPD regulary do traffic controls, use of anni is regulated by Noose, and guns on anni cant be used under any conditions atm.

Officer using guns on civilan players
Again it falls under DM unless is RP in that case courts are the place where you wanna go.

[CoolGuy295]

When someone jails someone the whole Police force will get paid. (If someone abused this system he would be punished).

Too easily to be abused by ARPD cops. There hasn't been many admins in-game during the weekdays too.

Adding that you need to exit the vehicle to buy fuel at gas stations and it should take 15 seconds.

No improvement needed. Currently, suspects need to stop completely at any gas station in order for the /fillup script to be executed, which in turn gives an opportunity for any and every LEO to carjack the suspect.

If someone Endangered your life (Such as having a gun on you) you must comply as your life is in danger.

What if the "victim" is armed too? I'm sure he can retaliate against the robber or LEO, yes?

Reckless Driving - Code Red (Driving on Sidewalks) Will be counted as Terrorism.

In my own opinion, driving on the sidewalks is simply reckless driving, civilians may be Driving under the influence. How is it classified as Terrorism? Can you elaborate on this?

[Danny Soulson]

ARPD and LCPD regulary do traffic controls, use of anni is regulated by Noose, and guns on anni cant be used under any conditions atm.

I've never asked is it allowed or not. I know its not allowed atm thats why i made a suggestion.

Its up to players to decide what kind of approach in RP will they pick, cooperate or die while running away.

What if they say i don't want to rp?

ARPD Free cops can use any vehicle they judge can help them carry out there dutys best, but they cna only suspect and pullover from Police owned vehicles. Thats how it is, and how it should stay.

People keep abusing the fact they can use civilian vehicles. Why not letting firemans use civ vehicles like before? If someone wants to be on duty he should be using the job vehicles it doesnt make sense. Everyone got a opinion if they want to be a cop he should be using a police car. Also many freecops break the laws 24/7 And the thing ---> "ARPD Officers (Freecops) - Breaking traffic laws will be dealt with as normal citizens and recieve a fine(They can be pulled over by LCPD,FBI,NOoSE)." (If the police officer keeps breaking the laws he should be removed from the force)

You are right about the court but there is like 5 new players everyday, Do you think it will mean anything to post a court report on everyone of them?
Punishments for laws being broke by the police should be strict, I've been here 2 years and Freecops have been abusing their job for a long time and it keeps going. (I'm talking about the new players).

ARPD and LCPD regulary do traffic controls,

I've seen so many times people breaking traffic violations and not being pulled over in front of a police officer.[/list][/list][/list]

[superh2o]

I've never asked is it allowed or not. I know its not allowed atm thats why i made a suggestion.

Give me one reason why use of heavy weapons on anni that cant be destroyed or slowed, be allowed?

What if they say i don't want to rp?

Fine, we are a light RP server, its not a must you should RP.

People keep abusing the fact they can use civilian vehicles. Why not letting firemans use civ vehicles like before? If someone wants to be on duty he should be using the job vehicles it doesnt make sense. Everyone got a opinion if they want to be a cop he should be using a police car. Also many freecops break the laws 24/7 And the thing ---> "ARPD Officers (Freecops) - Breaking traffic laws will be dealt with as normal citizens and recieve a fine(They can be pulled over by LCPD,FBI,NOoSE)." (If the police officer keeps breaking the laws he should be removed from the force)

You get abused /report, no admin is online screen and pm to admins, so they will take care of the abusing officers.

Fireman must use Firetruck for mission, cuz all things that can be used for firefighting are in the trucks, besides duty and fireman are not even similar jobs to use in comparison

Im telling you once again LCPD has internal control to prevent law breaks on duty, there are officers who can policeban other officers and pull them over  suspect or fine depending how bad was the law break.

You are right about the court but there is like 5 new players everyday, Do you think it will mean anything to post a court report on everyone of them?
Punishments for laws being broke by the police should be strict, I've been here 2 years and Freecops have been abusing their job for a long time and it keeps going. (I'm talking about the new players).

I've seen so many times people breaking traffic violations and not being pulled over in front of a police officer.

It wont mean much to new players, but if you just talk to the new players and how them how tgins are done the right way, they will follow or abuse duty and get punished by admins.

Its takes time to learn, and there are so much exceptions on duty when to do something, and when not to, none player abused duty for long before he ether stopped or was stopped by admins or LCPD HQ

Again its up to players (officers) to decide will they pullover players or let them be and keep doing what they were doing.

RP is all about freedom, to do as you wish, and IVMP supports that, as long as its RP you can do anything and i mean anything.

[Norrage]

I'll give my opinion about your suggestions aswell.

When LCPD Member types something in Radio it will add LCPD:
When FBI Member types something in Radio it will add FBI:
When NOoOSE Member types something in Radio it will add NOoOSE:

Should be fine in my opinion. I think NOOSE is not needed since NOOSE is a part of LCPD. Tho I think it would be good to see who is FBI and who is LCPD in the police chat (also for the new players to recognize who is who).

Allowing evading with boats.

Client is too unstable for this. It would be impossible to catch someone who is escaping via boat. And what happens if the suspect exits? Punish him for evading in water? We would need to change too much rules / regulations if we want to make this happen.

Adding Police Boats.

Look above. If there are no boats there are no need for police boats (would be cool tho). But I think it better to invest more in cars for new players around the city than police boats / civilian boats.

When someone jails someone the whole Police force will get paid. (If someone abused this system he would be punished).

Maybe. I think it would be too easy to earn money as a police officer then. People will just drive around as a cop and do nothing other than patrol, waiting for other to kill / jail a suspect to receive money.

Adding that you need to exit the vehicle to buy fuel at gas stations and it should take 15 seconds.

Hmmm I think this is quite good actually. Atleast walk towards the actual pump and type /fillup or something. Would increase roleplay and would stop suspects (abusing?) the pump.

Removing "Force-RP".

Not quite sure about that. Up to managers if they want to implement this.

If someone Endangered your life (Such as having a gun on you) you must comply as your life is in danger.

I don't like the word 'must'. If you are a decent roleplayer you would comply either way. I am a total fan of this because we are a roleplay server, and this means you cannot pull out a bazooka and kill the person endagering your life.

Using /pm for roleplay is Counted as Meta-Gaming.

Completely agree with this point. Should not be allowed. /cb and /r should be fine since these are normal roleplay things. Tho if they are taken away via roleplay you should not be able to use them anymore. Maybe a new command? /takeradio or something, to take away all chats (must be confirmed by the one getting 'kidnapped' or something).

Over exaggerated RP is not allowed unless both parties comply.

Not quite sure how this is a problem. Over-exaggerated roleplay isn't such a big problem on the server right now, is it?

Money Hunt (Running for money,Stealing Suspects, Not working Together) is not allowed.

/report should do. Or atleast inform someone from the LCPD command staff if you see someone abusing this. Same for EMS / FD if they implement high ranked ones aswell.

You are not allowed to be AFK as Emergency Jobs.

Agree on this point. Civilian and others should be fine, but AFK-ing as a police officer, firefighter or medic should be prohibited indeed.

Reckless Driving - Code Red (Driving on Sidewalks) Will be counted as Terrorism.
Reckless Driving - Code Blue (Driving on Left Lane and endangering civilian lifes)
Reckless Driving - Code Yellow (Not stopping on stop signs)
All Stops signs & Traffic lights require the driver to slow down to 20km/h

Up to managers and LCPD Chief. @Kerbe

ARPD Officers (Freecops) - Must use Official Vehicles.
ARPD Officers (Freecops) - Must follow traffic rules unless in Emergencies.
ARPD Officers (Freecops) - Must follow orders from higher officials.

Freecops are new players. Giving them these rules are only more reasons to report them to administration and get them punished. Giving rules to new players is quite a problem I think.

LEO - Are not allowed to use guns unless its necessary.

Is a rule already.

ARPD Officers (Freecops) - Breaking traffic laws will be dealt with as normal citizens and recieve a fine(They can be pulled over by LCPD,FBI,NOoSE).

See the above point. This should be a thing to /report or report to upper LCPD command (atleast)

LCPD,FBI,NOoSE - Breaking traffic laws or state laws (While not in emergency) Should be reported to their Supervisor.

Already a thing.

Paramedics,Firemans - Are not allowed to break laws.

Quite logical.

Paramedics,Firemans - Must respond to All dispatches (Includes Kidnappings,Robberies though they can arrive after the Police secured the perimeter).

Quite logical in a roleplay perspective. If all parties are fine with this its logical the kidnapped person needs to be treated by EMS.

In Police Radios its not allowed to discuss, Its made for Reporting/Emergencies/Communication.

True. Agree with this. Tho a little respond to a new player requesting feedback should be fine.

ARPD,LCPD - Members must do traffic stops, Unless it will be counted as Corruption.

This should be up to LCPD command. Will discuss this with upper command. @Kerbe

In Terrorist situations Law Enforcement is allowed to use annihilator. Though usage of guns will be only allowed when there is a suspect using a boat to escape. Or the suspect is endagering public safety and annihilator can be used on the suspect only with civilians away from the fire at least 20 buildings.

No. Annihilator should be only accessed by ranked cops, knowing how to fly it and knowing regulations about the annihilator. There would be no other use for NOOSE and FBI if any law enforcement can use it.

ARPD,LCPD Must Patrol unless there is a good reason behind it. (On foot or with a vehicle).

Same as above, this should be up to LCPD command. Will discuss this with upper command. @Kerbe

Law Enforcer that uses his weapons on a other Emergency member without a reason to do so will be removed from the force for 30 days.

Quite logical. This should even be called deathmatch and should be reported to administration via /report. If there is a roleplay reason behind it, it should be reported on the ARPD forums via the 'reporting an officer' form.


I like the ideas, tho not all should be implemented.

[Joey]

Carjacking a suspect shouldn't be allowed.

[Spike.]

Too bad for Kanye no one else does, pursuits would never end if that'd be the case.