Peace Treaty 30/05/2016

[Julio.]

Yes, except the people that were engaged upon were

Ah, but how would law enforcement know that?

[Arslan]

Yes, except the people that were engaged upon were

Yes except that the treaty was for FLA related RPs, not for you to do whatever you want and claim to be some different character and five minutes later become FLA Sgt. because it serves you better. The point discussed in the meeting was the fact that other people would abuse it in this way but it isn't anyone else but FLA using it in the way it was said NOT to be used.

[TiMoN]

Ah, but how would law enforcement know that?

oh idk perhaps use /groups like you do everytime something is happening?

[taseen11]

Yes, except the people that were engaged upon were

But I thought that you weren't acting as FLA in LS so why would you go to use your immunity in Angel Pine?

[Ramo_Hawk]

Ah, but how would law enforcement know that?

With /groups, or with that logic, they can never actually enter Angel Pine because they'll never know if its Soldier+ or not. They clearly knew our /groups beforehand if they rushed to Angel Pine five minutes after we left, otherwise it would be impossible to figure out where we're heading to.

[[Rstar]Peter]

You were RPing as FLA then.
But...

Yes BUT no one from FLA was acting as FLA, at that very moment when an ally asked for back up, he asked his criminal friends to do so, and the peace treaty was done as a ceasefire and to keep both parties away from each other if possible, we defended an ally territory, and we left.

[Ramo_Hawk]

But I thought that you weren't acting as FLA in LS so why would you go to use your immunity in Angel Pine?

Because I still remain a FLA Sergeant, acting like or not, still am. You are trying to justify your acts because you knew our /groups before we even approached. And when we left, with no trails whatsoever, you just raided Angel Pine with no possibility of knowing we were FLA.

[Arslan]

With /groups, or with that logic, they can never actually enter Angel Pine because they'll never know if its Soldier+ or not. They clearly knew our /groups beforehand if they rushed to Angel Pine five minutes after we left, otherwise it would be impossible to figure out where we're heading to.

I don't understand why you're assuming AP to be some country for the whole server. That is only FLA belief and the agreements by law are for FLA related acts. If you weren't RPing FLA, you are still just in any like other place on the map where law enforcement can engage you. Which you weren't so shouldn't have done what you did.

[Ramo_Hawk]

I honestly give up on all of you, the stupidity in some of you is astonishing and I just can't deal with this anymore, do whatever you want, I couldn't careless. Just make a decision, clarify with everyone what it is and we'll act on what decision you come up with.

[Arslan]

Because I still remain a FLA Sergeant, acting like or not, still am. You are trying to justify your acts because you knew our /groups before we even approached. And when we left, with no trails whatsoever, you just raided Angel Pine with no possibility of knowing we were FLA.

We're not the ones justifying anything. What we did is engage suspects. It is you who are attempting to claim police should've called you and what not instead of doing what they did. And you are attempting to justify the reasons for that approach when clearly that situation did not deserve that response.

[Julio.]

So...

1. FLA Soldiers+ in /groupmembers FLA opened fire on law enforcement in LS
and then...
2. Law enforcement opened fire on FLA Soldiers+ in /groupmembers FLA

So that's it, no need to moan. Peace treaty is broken. Simply means that if we have any more complain topics like this then HQ is going to step in and take administrative action.

[Ramo_Hawk]

I don't understand why you're assuming AP to be some country for the whole server. That is only FLA belief and the agreements by law are for FLA related acts. If you weren't RPing FLA, you are still just in any like other place on the map where law enforcement can engage you. Which you weren't so shouldn't have done what you did.

That's why you should have clarified the treaty from the beginning. Not everyone was at this meeting so there's no possibility of what you actually expected from us. And I am assuming AP is with a different boarder is because HQ asked us to roleplay it that way, and that is exactly what we are doing. They did not want it officially, this is what happens.

[Arslan]

That's why you should have clarified the treaty from the beginning. Not everyone was at this meeting so there's no possibility of what you actually expected from us. And I am assuming AP is with a different boarder is because HQ asked us to roleplay it that way, and that is exactly what we are doing. They did not want it officially, this is what happens.

1. Common sense.
2. It isn't my job to keep FLA up to date with what their leaders have agreed upon.

You can roleplay it however you want. Just don't bring the treaty into it then and claim law enforcement can't do this or that since that isn't why it was made.

[TiMoN]

why can't we just get along

in an alternate universe FLA is patrolling an independent FC when suddenly they receive a radio call from SAPD regarding an escaped felon who entered their boarders, FLA being a reputable ally to SA immediately chase down the felon, capture him and deliver him to justice in los santos

but noo we just have to keep bitching on forums and "threaten" to quit argo if FC becomes independent, real fucking pathetic

[Ramo_Hawk]

1. Common sense.
2. It isn't my job to keep FLA up to date with what their leaders have agreed upon.

Why is it in the constitution, you clarify things out? Because when it was made, not everyone was there. It was whoever have created it, which I assume was you or HQ, to do it, and you failed to do so. And if its common sense to actually write it up properly and not just assume people know what you expect from us.