[SA:MP] In-Game Server Rules - Q&A

[Rusty]

You may discuss, suggest or query any of the in-game rules here.  Topic will be moderated to remove anything unrelated.

[Stivi]

Is /su abuse script abuse? The officers are esentially abusing a script given to them for whatever reason, no?

[TiMoN]

When is it okay to shoot on sight?

Shouldn't scammers be forced to hand back scammed goods script wise should they be confronted about it and left no choice?

[Marcell]

Shouldn't people be punished for roleplaying having no money on them, no guns, etc, when you can clearly see they have 2k armors + sports car + had weapons in hands 1 min ago? It's kinda abusing lack of proper scripts to never 'lose'. During a robbery or a frisk that is.

[Rusty]

Is /su abuse script abuse? The officers are esentially abusing a script given to them for whatever reason, no?

Should be treated as such yes.  If a cop roleplayed corrupt and the suspected player didn't mind the suspection then w'ere fine with that, though the cop may be open to a copban for it.

When is it okay to shoot on sight?

Shouldn't scammers be forced to hand back scammed goods script wise should they be confronted about it and left no choice?

Seeing a fellow faction member being shot at while you are present is fine enough, it's a tricky one to answer but have some decency and ask yourself if you think it's right. 

Yeah they should that is unless they roleplayed tossing the items away and can prove such action was done.  It's common courtesy to hand back what you stole if caught soon after.

Shouldn't people be punished for roleplaying having no money on them, no guns, etc, when you can clearly see they have 2k armors + sports car + had weapons in hands 1 min ago? It's kinda abusing lack of proper scripts to never 'lose'. During a robbery or a frisk that is.

We won't be punishing for this, even though it's pretty much the player being selfish and not giving someone a little something.

[Stivi]

Should be treated as such yes.  If a cop roleplayed corrupt and the suspected player didn't mind the suspection then w'ere fine with that, though the cop may be open to a copban for it.

Should indeed. Everytime I report a police officer for abusing /su, I get told to file a report at ARPD and /or /gu and ask for an investigation. That's somethong that should change, but I 'll redirect admins to this reply. Thanks.

[Jellyfish]

Situation: A player has been cornered on a side alley, there are no people around (or visible on the minimap). Three people go up to him, one discreetly places a gun to his back and tells him to get in a car parked a little bit ahead. The player complies with them, but as soon as he enters the car, he calls 911 and starts writing "HELP ID 34 IS KIDNAP POLICE PLEASE H#ELP POLIS POLIS" (I am not exaggerating, pretty close to the exact words). Does this fall under avoiding roleplay, even though we never took the phone from him, taking in mind how poor this was?

[Rusty]

Situation: A player has been cornered on a side alley, there are no people around (or visible on the minimap). Three people go up to him, one discreetly places a gun to his back and tells him to get in a car parked a little bit ahead. The player complies with them, but as soon as he enters the car, he calls 911 and starts writing "HELP ID 34 IS KIDNAP POLICE PLEASE H#ELP POLIS POLIS" (I am not exaggerating, pretty close to the exact words). Does this fall under avoiding roleplay, even though we never took the phone from him, taking in mind how poor this was?

Clear poor attempt of roleplay, no one would pull out their phone and calls the cops whilst three people who just kidnapped him are in the car with him.  Not necessarily avoiding roleplay just there for a lack of common sense while roleplaying, I mean if they ain't taken away your shit and hands ain't tied then send a sneaky SMS out all while explaining your action in /me.  This is why if you kidnap someone first thing you should do is take away their devices used to communicate and search them thoroughly.

[Sweeper]

Clear poor attempt of roleplay, no one would pull out their phone and calls the cops whilst three people who just kidnapped him are in the car with him.  Not necessarily avoiding roleplay just there for a lack of common sense while roleplaying, I mean if they ain't taken away your shit and hands ain't tied then send a sneaky SMS out all while explaining your action in /me.  This is why if you kidnap someone first thing you should do is take away their devices used to communicate and search them thoroughly.

Isn't it failure to roleplay properly, ruining roleplay and punishable?

[Rusty]

I could have made my answer a little more clearer, but yes it would fall into failure to roleplay properly.

[Vaeldious]

Rusty, since I own "Gas Station X" in Fort Carson, am I allowed to blow my own pumps up intentionally as a weapon? Within RP of course.

[Rusty]

All gas pumps shouldn't be able to blow up, if yours can we'll look to fix this.  To answer your question, no you can't.

[Gandalf]

Situation: A player has been cornered on a side alley, there are no people around (or visible on the minimap). Three people go up to him, one discreetly places a gun to his back and tells him to get in a car parked a little bit ahead. The player complies with them, but as soon as he enters the car, he calls 911 and starts writing "HELP ID 34 IS KIDNAP POLICE PLEASE H#ELP POLIS POLIS" (I am not exaggerating, pretty close to the exact words). Does this fall under avoiding roleplay, even though we never took the phone from him, taking in mind how poor this was?

In line of good roleplay I would also question your decision to kidnap this person. What are the criteria on which you as a group decide to kidnap someone? What is the objective of the kidnapping? Do you have a roleplay motive or are you just looking for a reason to obtain money or start a scenario involving the cops?
Random kidnapping is just as por as roleplay as attempting to alert the cops without having the roleplay means.

[Jellyfish]

@Rusty, thanks for the response.

In line of good roleplay I would also question your decision to kidnap this person. What are the criteria on which you as a group decide to kidnap someone? What is the objective of the kidnapping? Do you have a roleplay motive or are you just looking for a reason to obtain money or start a scenario involving the cops?
Random kidnapping is just as por as roleplay as attempting to alert the cops without having the roleplay means.

I believe in this instance the purpose was to simply scare off the guy, as in threaten him (bit of beating up, perhaps) and abandon him in some remote area for transgressions committed by him earlier. Money and police activity weren't motives, especially not the police part, considering those of us that aren't pushing any sort of political agenda try to avoid them at all costs.

[Vaeldious]

All gas pumps shouldn't be able to blow up, if yours can we'll look to fix this.  To answer your question, no you can't.

Ok. I think it's related to the fire script as one of the locations a fire can "naturally" start for a Mission. Just wanted to clarify. Thanks.