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[Unbanned] Carlito_Sauvage banned by Hakeem_Brooks

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Offline Carlito.STopic starter

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Your in-game name:
Carlito_Sauvage

Ban reason as was stated in-game:
Lame excuses of RP to start a shootout

Admin who banned you:
Hakeem_Brooks

When you were banned:
Now.

Additional notes:
Okay first of all let me post a great chat logs for the RP.
[07:41:57] Cristian_Sauvage(4) shouts: stop there nigga.!!

[07:42:06] Lamar_Oakwood(2) lifts his t-shirt up and takes out his glock 18 from their waistline.

[07:42:33] ***[4440] Carlito_Sauvage(13): Killed him ?

[07:42:36] Cristian_Sauvage(4) was suspected by Server, reason: Killing Lamar_Oakwood(2

Okay So Lamar killed Ty...
He was looking for Sanchez to buy...We made adeal about selling sanchez.
We met...When we met Cristian Told him stop right there nigga.
He started running and RolePlaied taking out a gun.
I started running next to him,and when he stoped i stoped and he started shooting me.
When i had 50 HP left i shot back.
So dear admins that must be joke, I didn't shot one signal bullet , i just shooted after Shooting me and keeping me with 50 HP
So Hakeem was not fair at all he was with him and in his side.
He didn't want to belive that i didn't shot a shit.
Guys I had 360 Bullet of SMG 0 of the were spent he claims that I shot him with SMG first of all.
The admin here was not fair at all.
Even in this situation The poor RP was from lamar side.
He shooted me for god sake While i had 00000000000000 bullets spent on him
So did i dmed ?
I even got killed.
So With that Unban requset I am reporting the Admin Hakeem brooks For unfair dissucion. And Lamar for a poor Rp from his side.
Hakeet didn't wanted to here me btw.
Understand me i didn't shot a shit i ran next to he to stop him and talk.
I didn't shot.


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Reply #1 on: June 09, 2016, 07:28:51 am
Awaiting admin explanation. 

REPLICA.


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Reply #2 on: June 09, 2016, 07:30:23 am
Sure , Just please check the logs if i did shot in the first place , It was like Lamar Lied and he belived him and banned me while i got Dmed and killed.
And furthermore how he can report me after getting me killed.


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Reply #3 on: June 09, 2016, 07:37:46 am
[07:39:03] The login screen will appear shortly. Please wait.

[07:39:13] You have successfully logged in, Carlito_Sauvage.

[07:39:13] Carlito_Sauvage(13) has logged into the server.

[07:39:13] You have joined channel 4440. Owner: Carlito_Sauvage

[07:39:13] Channel Message: Sauvage for life ;)

[07:39:18] Weapon restored: Desert Eagle with 152 ammo.

[07:39:18] Weapon restored: MP5 with 360 ammo.

[07:39:18] You are now entering Los Santos city boundaries. Mayor: None
I had 360 Bullet non of them have been spent.


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Reply #4 on: June 09, 2016, 08:27:10 am
Hello, I'm Manoni (Hakeem) the administrator who has issued your ban.

First I have to remind you that as a member of the staff team, I have to act unbiased, means that the results of the aforementioned situation are out of my personal thoughts, feelings or the ones that are possibly related to me in a clan and/or roleplay faction.
Second, as a member of the staff team I must inform that the results of the aforementioned situation are also related to the previous punishments given to you in the server. Before proceeding to the explanation of the reasons that has led to your ban I will list down the punishments that you have received during the past three days, for future references.



Now, I'll start explaining what I understood after speaking with both parties.

I got a report from the player Lamar_Oakwood for "not here to roleplay" right after I noticed on the admin logs that he got killed along with Carlito_Sauvage (both at the same time) due to a shootout involving Deagles.
I went to Carlito to ask him about what happened and what were his reasons to attack Lamar, he did explained that the situation involved a previous murder of Ty_Sauvage, who got killed by Lamar today, I don't know exactly on what time but I asked him if it was recent which he said no, but he told me that Lamar got spotted (RPly by the cameras of a business) on the moment when he killed Ty. I must say at this point that we got told several times by HQ and it has even been posted on this forums that such reasons like "He killed my member so I have to kill him back" are no longer a valid reason to go against someone, as it's considered poor roleplay and an excuse for a deathmatch.

Afterthat, I asked Carlito if he let know Lamar that they were after him because he killed Ty which he answered no, that he should've already known that. Carlito, as a player of this server, you should know that every action you will take has to be with a roleplay, specially when it's about killing someone else for revenge, you had to let him know what were the reason for you to go on him in roleplay, if not, such actions can be misunderstood as deathmatch and can get you into troubles with administration just like it happened today.

Once I got an explanation from Carlito I decided to teleport Lamar to us and read his version, Lamar told me that Carlito had no direct roleplay approach to him apart from the logs that he already posted here. He did told me that he took his desert eagle out as the "/me" says, but that he didn't shot, rather than that, he ran away from Carlito.
At this point the situation turns confusing, as both players claim that they were not the ones who shot first but that was not the point of your punishments, it's the actions that you and your fellow did against another player, you need to realize that your attempt of roleplay was quite poor and that there were many possibilities for you to start a better approach even to make him stop when he (if he really did) ran away from you.

I have to tell you that I was not gonna ban you, but the attitude that you showed to me and Lamar while we were speaking it was quite bad, you need to control your temper and not go all "/L BAN ME" when an administrator is trying to speak to you. I also have to say that Lamar didn't had the best attitude when he raged at you with insults that led to you talking back at him, I understand you in that way but you two need to understand that I was present there as an administrator and both sides needed to show respect at that time. I also have to add that this wouldn't had happened if this was your first report/punishment but as you can see above my post, your record didn't seemed to be appropriate to the server standards therefore I decided that the most reasonable choice to do was to ban you.
To finish this I have to remind you that every administrator acts according to their criteria when its about issuing punishments but that in no way changes the fact that we have to objective on our decisions no matter who we are dealing with.

This is all that I can say from my side. If needed by management, I can post the logs of the conversation I had between Carlito and Lamar either here or on their PMs.


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Reply #5 on: June 09, 2016, 08:38:44 am
Uh really so let rusty check the server logs , Another thing the 2 tempbans i got the one with slavik i talked with him and fixed it up and the one peter gave me was not fair and i reported to the admins on fourms , I can not read evrything you wrote but all i know that i did'n done any mistake at this rp and furthermore you banned me maybe to revenge i dont know why ...


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Reply #6 on: June 09, 2016, 08:42:32 am
I knew that you are going to talk about it , bro get back to the chat we had you was not fair you was with the guy who is part of your hang and did not belived any word that i saied you were attacking me not asking me , so do not blame me you was not ready to check anything you just heared to your partner in the same gang and was not able to try to undestand me so the conversation there was not fair and it was not handeled in the right way so there for i told u ban me cuz you was not fair at all.


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Reply #7 on: June 09, 2016, 08:45:40 am
This is now up to management as you've said, they will investigate further and will ask either you or me for anything that is required to proceed with your unban.

I can not read evrything you wrote but all i know that i did'n done any mistake at this rp and furthermore you banned me maybe to revenge i dont know why

I encourage you to try to read my post. If you could, you would realize that I said that this is in no way a reason for me to ban you.


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Reply #8 on: June 09, 2016, 08:46:14 am
So u banned me because of my attuied what about lamar's attuied ...
Sorry bro but you ain't fair admin ,and i am sure 80 percent that you banned me for revenge .
Even in that roleplay there was al lack of rping from lamar's side when we came to talk he ran away and took out a gun great Rp


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Reply #9 on: June 09, 2016, 08:50:04 am
This is now up to management as you've said, they will investigate further and will ask either you or me for anything that is required to proceed with your unban.



I encourage you to try to read my post. If you could, you would realize that I said that this is in no way a reason for me to ban you.

That ban was not fair and you your self know it


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Reply #10 on: June 09, 2016, 08:51:25 am
so do not blame me you was not ready to check anything you just heared to your partner in the same gang and was not able to try to undestand me so the conversation there was not fair and it was not handeled in the right way so there for i told u ban me cuz you was not fair at all.

I should tell you that I have no possible way to check further the logs apart from the ones of you and Lamar's death, the rest is only able to be seen by managers. I've listened both yours and his story and I approached to you with a neutral attitude because as I said before, an administrator does not acts biased by their roleplay group or feelings.


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Reply #11 on: June 09, 2016, 08:54:36 am
So u banned me because of my attuied what about lamar's attuied

I already said in my first post that Lamar's attitude was bad too, I will handle it once I get to see him back in game. The legitimacy of this ban will be decided by the managers, not me.


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Reply #12 on: June 09, 2016, 08:55:30 am
Yes you can not but you went after lamar's words and was not avle to try to ask for a chatlogs or anything


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Reply #13 on: June 09, 2016, 08:57:48 am
I already said in my first post that Lamar's attitude was bad too, I will handle it once I get to see him back in game. The legitimacy of this ban will be decided by the managers, not me.
But wait if u banned me for my attuied why u didn't banned him ... Dont say it i already know
Even his rp level was not good at all.
So he deserve to get banned note and btw i died .


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Reply #14 on: June 09, 2016, 10:10:05 am
To the HQ as is that ban was no deserved and if it was both sides should be banned , I should be in game now ,but i got banned for nothing.


 


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