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Offline KazeTopic starter

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on: June 18, 2016, 05:03:55 pm
So it's been a week since I got myself a PC capable of gaming at a minimum of 60 FPS. What I'm trying to understand is why do all PC gamers think they need to have the latest tech?

I'm personally more than satisfied to play in 720p but a lot of PC gamers always want that upgrade i.e. The 970 4GB/4K monitor/4K resolution, top of the range CPU, 16gb ram and all that unnecessary bullshit.

I've said this as a console gamer and I'm saying it as a PC gamer.. it's all marketing nonsense to get you to buy. You're being robbed in broad daylight.

Even a PC case.. the case is designed to keep components together. why do you feel the need to buy UFO styled cases with 32321213 windows and various other technology.

I've compared both my 'powerful' PC and my 'mid' laptop and they both perform the same. Does the same things.

As long as I don't game at 800x640 with everything on ultra low settings, it does the job for me.

What drives you to get everything top of the range?



Looks exactly the same for me.



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Reply #1 on: June 18, 2016, 05:18:32 pm
Higher resolution: Better detail (Meant) more information and FOV
Higher hardware=better FPS=smoother gameplay. Anything below 60 FPS is honestly sadness.
Nobody has been robbed, you get what you pay for. People want to play at the highest possible detail and at a constant 60 FPS at 4K. They are not going to get it using a GTX 960 or even a GTX 980. You will need to SLI/Crossfire your GPUs. I have very little idea about computer programming or data but I can say that there's a lot of processing that needs to be done to even improve the visuals marginally. And the lower end GPUs don't have the resources to do that.

As for cases, a good airflow is definitely necessary for good hardware, and as it goes with windows and RGB lights, it's just to look good and show off.

As for your pic, don't take a pic inside an interior and from a cutscene and see the difference.



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Reply #2 on: June 18, 2016, 05:19:44 pm
That game itself just looks awful and to use that to make any sort of comparison is rather pointless when the graphics are similar to those of GTA 3.
Depth of field is about the only real difference in those two pictures.



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Reply #3 on: June 18, 2016, 05:21:30 pm
That scene isn't a good example, outdoors especially by buildings and complex textures you'll see a big difference!

A 960 is the most even most serious gamers need though, if someone is happy to blow 500quid plus on a card though then I won't judge!



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Reply #4 on: June 18, 2016, 05:29:51 pm
Why do people buy nice cars instead of something cheap? Isn't the purpose same, getting from point A to point B? Why do would you need a super car when you can have a 50cc moped?



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Reply #5 on: June 18, 2016, 05:34:26 pm
If you think gaming is comparable to driving a supercar then yes, I guess you'd appreciate better hardware.



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Reply #6 on: June 18, 2016, 05:37:25 pm
I see the points your making guys and just note I'm not slating you at all I'm just very curious.

I heard somewhere (I may not be correct) but human eye cant see 60FPS or whatever ultra high graphics we think we see so what's the point in that?

The reason why I'm curious is because a console does all that for you and is future proof. You spend £350 and you're sorted for the next 5 years minimum as all the games in the future will be compatible with the console. I had the PS4 since day one and later on GTA 5 came out and boom I can already play it no problem.

Another reason why I'm curious is because (yet again not really my business but hey) people can actually put their money to good use instead of purcashing high end equipment that has little effect on you. Would you rather buy a GPU for $100 and have an additional $100 to spend on yourself on clothes or something or $300 on a GPU?


On a pro side of gaming, I like the fact that I can modify the game to my needs i.e. change a car mod or whatever.




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Reply #7 on: June 18, 2016, 05:40:18 pm


Looks exactly the same to me..




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Reply #8 on: June 18, 2016, 06:03:29 pm
Play at 30 FPS and then 60 FPS and you will feel the difference.
Play at 60 FPS and play at 120 FPS and you will feel the difference. (Although you would need a monitor that can do more than 60 FPS to actually feel the difference)
Humans (contrary to the bullshit) don't see in FPS, we don't see in resolution. So as long as there's a difference, you will feel it.

Get a good PC now and you sure will be able to run any game for 5 years at least (while lowering the resolution and details over the years). I mean, that's what consoles do too, you know? =)
Consoles are basically future proof because they are purpose made hardware. A gaming OS that has nothing else to take care of in the background (unlike a PC OS). Developers have to only care about only one specific hardware and one specific display settings for the game. Game developers too, over the years, will have to lower the resolution and detail of their games to run on an aging console. That's what you can do on your PC to run it for a few more years.
The current gen consoles have barely completed 3 years and you can already see that their upgrades are due. They already run PC hardware and probably in a few years they will just be living room PCs with gaming OS (which are already present).

Also, if you are buying a $300 GPU
1) You probably have more money to buy clothes or shit
2) You don't care about your clothes or shit.

As for the pic. They are cropped frames with the same detail, there won't be a difference.



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Reply #9 on: June 18, 2016, 06:10:56 pm
I heard somewhere (I may not be correct) but human eye cant see 60FPS or whatever ultra high graphics we think we see so what's the point in that?

I fail to see how you try to compare 60 FPS to high graphics settings which result in higher detailed images.



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Reply #10 on: June 18, 2016, 06:12:26 pm
This has to be the most autistic thing I have ever seen and read on this forum... which is saying a lot.



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Reply #11 on: June 18, 2016, 06:21:56 pm
Look, I may be talking nonsense since I'm too technical in terms of PC hardware but I can play GTA 5 on normal developer settings so whats the need for me to buy a Nvidia 970 if my current GPU can play it fun

That's what I'm tryna get at.. what's the point in the unnecessary purchase of a computer part when your current one works fine

''If it aint broke, don't fix it'' right?



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Reply #12 on: June 18, 2016, 06:28:32 pm
Look, I may be talking nonsense since I'm too technical in terms of PC hardware but I can play GTA 5 on normal developer settings so whats the need for me to buy a Nvidia 970 if my current GPU can play it fun

That's what I'm tryna get at.. what's the point in the unnecessary purchase of a computer part when your current one works fine

''If it aint broke, don't fix it'' right?
It will die sooner than later unlike Nvidia 970, GTA won't even be a threat to its life. And you don't really want to experience a fried GPU inside a PC..



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Reply #13 on: June 18, 2016, 06:36:34 pm
It will die sooner than later unlike Nvidia 970, GTA won't even be a threat to its life. And you don't really want to experience a fried GPU inside a PC..

If it comes to that, I'd buy the same GT450 I have because it's cheaper.. with the money I could of used to buy myself the 970 I would spend it on things I actually need. I hope you get where I'm coming from

Just a reminder

I'm not slating you at all I'm just very curious.




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Reply #14 on: June 18, 2016, 06:56:46 pm
Every electronic component has a llife expectancy calculated after its manufacture on an average usage scale. So if you for example use GTA V's ultra settings on a GT450 (which is much weaker than GTX 970 in terms of everything and it might even not be able to run it at all), it will reduce its life expectancy if not completely murder it on the first try. Everything has a life expectancy, if you use that thing like an idiot you will end up regretting doing so.



 


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