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UK EU Referendum

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Reply #150 on: June 24, 2016, 08:37:44 pm
What does Level 4 fall under? Uni? I'm 20, in Uni and Conservative. I voted out too.

Well that fits mate. If you looked at the graph you could see that 50% of people with a Level 4+ education voted out if they were conservative. So though you fall into the 25% of the 18-24 category, there's still a significant proportion of 18-24 year old conservative voters who voted leave.

I did Level 3 Extended Diploma in IT, 20 years old and work in a hospital cleaning plates. Now I cannot vote cos im a fucking retard according to Julio.  :lol:

I didn't say you couldn't vote mate.



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Reply #151 on: June 24, 2016, 08:48:12 pm
UK going get a new prime minister? Saw on swedish media that David Cameron going resign if im correct


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Reply #152 on: June 24, 2016, 08:59:39 pm
UK going get a new prime minister? Saw on swedish media that David Cameron going resign if im correct

Yeah. Will be decided hopefully by the conservative party conference October 2016.

Guessing Michael Gove or Boris Johnson. Some people voted out of the EU so "unelected politicians" couldn't control our laws. Now we're getting an unelected Prime Minister. The irony.



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Reply #153 on: June 24, 2016, 09:14:16 pm



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Reply #154 on: June 24, 2016, 10:08:16 pm
But doesn't leaving the EU mean you won't be able to trade in Europe as you would do normally?
We will negotiate new trade agreements, which the EU will accept, unless they want to lose trade with 65million people which would just be stupid and a massive blow to their own economies.


Retired people should probably not even vote, this isn't their future? (Note: this may or may not be a flawed thought.)
Retired people are human too, my grandfather voted to leave, he knows what the UK was like before the EU and probably saw it in a much better state than it ever was within the EU.

Aw shit. But, since no more EU membership fees, taxes will drop?
Well if our cunt of a Chancellor George Osborne stays in (though he should resign for his disgusting threat to the British people) then taxes will likely go up, but I'm hoping he'll resign and someone actually useful who can contribute to the UK will get his position.

And then the Scottish people will ask for independence again since they wanna stay in EU and so will begin the ending of UK.
Funny thing is, the hag Nicola Sturgeon told them that staying in the UK (during the Scottish Indy referendum) would result in the rest of the UK pulling them out of the EU, despite that Scotland still voted to stay as part of the UK and as a result will be out of the EU with the rest of the UK, the UK is what they voted for though so nobody can moan, though Scotland's First Minister won't recognise that and shut the fuck up, the SNP are a real bitter bunch.

Yeah indeed. I think the knee-jerk reaction of Scotland will be to leave... but the EU will be significantly weaker without Britain in it, it would be foolish for Scotland to "go solo" then try and get membership into an EU in turmoil.
Couldn't agree more! The EU will likely start to crumble from this point onwards, they are losing a gigantic contributor and it probably won't be long until more EU countries have their own referendums.

I think what Europe needs more than anything is what the EU was originally meant to be, we should revert it back to a trade union or just create one from scratch, no free movement, no laws or politics, just pure trade, and of course a big military alliance wouldn't hurt.

Statistics show that:
A) The uneducated were more likely to favour exit
B) The elderly were more likely to favour exit

Final YouGov poll showed 72% of young people wanted to remain in the UK. Now the young people have to deal with the shit the older people have left us with. Final parting gift?
I think it's disgusting that people are bashing the elderly like this, they have been around much longer than all of us, they know what the UK was like before the EU and probably saw it as more successful outside, how would you like it to be told you can't vote in a referendum because you're too old? Talk about shitting on the people who've made this country, and by saying that, I mean we all make this country, we all contribute to it and we all in some way effect how it will be in the next 100 years, as will the next generation and the one after them.

Their votes count just as much as ours.

Thats fucking sad.. because of the old.. and the uneducated you have to live with it for who knows how long.
It isn't sad, it's democracy, we will live with it, get used to it, and build a better UK with it.

GL trying to become a more prosperous country. Your currency dropped to its lowest since 1985, you guys ditched your traditional buddies (who have moved to adjust their own trade) when you opted for European trade preferences when you joined the EU and you guys are likely to lose your AAA Credit Rating. I can't imagine anyone winning financially out of this deal, personally I'm predicting they'll be another world recession. 1/1
Everything will recover in the coming months, for starters, everything continues as normal from this point on for the next 2 years whilst the UK negotiates with the EU, the trade, free movement, etc, everything carries on as it did 1 week ago, in the time things will recover, and once negotiating is over, it can only get better.

The EU will not shut us out in negotiations, it is in their best interests for us all to recover.

Leave had lots of slogans and shit to say prior to this but now when you ask them what is the plan they piss themselves and don't know shit or what to do. And now with this you probably ended up destroying UK too with Scotland wanting another referendum vote.
As I said above, Scotland voted to stay in the UK despite being told by the SNP that we'd likely pull them out of the EU with us, they voted to remain as part of the UK and now we'll all leave the EU together, it is what Scotland wanted during the Scottish Independence Referendum and any new referendum should wait until the chaotic time that we're all in now is sorted out.

The final blow to a country that was once the greatest. The effects are already visible with a crashing market (even worldwide) and unstable value in your currency. The bank can totally correct it... but at what cost to the economy's long term outlook. Well done, Brits. Well done.
Still is the greatest, nobody else in Europe had the balls to walk out of this sham of a union.

A serious well done to the UK.

Spoiler for Hiden:
:lol: That's so awesome.

All in all I'm just glad I'm alive to witness something like this. Hopefully Slovenia will leave the EU at some point too, we gotta get off this sinking ship. The sooner the better.
Good luck to Slovenia then, perhaps when the EU falls we can all create an actual trade union.

UK going get a new prime minister? Saw on swedish media that David Cameron going resign if im correct
Hopefully it'll be Boris Johnson, he's a real people person, someone who actually cares for the UK.

It's a shame the EU didn't want to hear any of the UK's offers for negotiating a better position for us inside the EU, they were told we'd have a referendum and they still didn't listen and now they have got themselves in a right mess, as for Cameron, in the last general elections he promised the UK a referendum on the EU if his party got into power again, he did that to get more right wing votes but he did it blindly thinking it'd be an easy win and that the UK would remain in the EU, that is where he screwed up big time, he lost and it's only right that he resigns, I honestly think Boris is the one who could solve this mess though, he's generally a very likable person and the EU would have a hard time saying no to him, in my head anyway.

It's clear that this is a right messy time for the UK and the EU and sitting around moaning about and shitting on 'retarded leave voters' and the elderly isn't going to solve it, nor is Scotland's SNP crying for another Indy Ref, the whole UK needs to stand united now in order to stick our economy back on track and have successful negotiations with the EU.

Sorry for the large post, I had work to go to today and unlike some predicted, my wage stayed the same, my company didn't go broke and close down, nobody got fired and it was a normal fucking day.

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Reply #155 on: June 24, 2016, 10:20:48 pm
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my wage stayed the same, my company didn't go broke and close down, nobody got fired and it was a normal fucking day.

Well of course it didn't go down. That's not how it works. It means that ANYTHING we import will be more expensive. You won't earn less, but shit will cost more.

Boris Johnson for PM? He's a dangerous man with dangerous opinions...



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Reply #156 on: June 24, 2016, 10:26:57 pm
Well of course it didn't go down. That's not how it works. It means that ANYTHING we import will be more expensive. You won't earn less, but shit will cost more.
Weren't you moaning about pay decreasing 10% this morning...? :rolleyes:

And everything will stay the same price for now, imported and exported, we haven't left the EU yet.

Boris Johnson for PM? He's a dangerous man with dangerous opinions...
Sounds like a good leader to me.

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Reply #157 on: June 24, 2016, 10:28:23 pm
Well of course it didn't go down. That's not how it works. It means that ANYTHING we import will be more expensive. You won't earn less, but shit will cost more.

Boris Johnson for PM? He's a dangerous man with dangerous opinions...

You've been crying a full 12 hours now. Give it a rest.



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Reply #158 on: June 24, 2016, 11:32:43 pm
We will negotiate new trade agreements, which the EU will accept, unless they want to lose trade with 65million people which would just be stupid and a massive blow to their own economies.

Retired people are human too, my grandfather voted to leave, he knows what the UK was like before the EU and probably saw it in a much better state than it ever was within the EU.
I'm sure they appreciate you leaving EU and will let you continue whatever you were doing while in EU.

Your grandfather is old, he knows the past not the future. I just hope he was very well updated with latest changes in the economy and policies and he made a right decision when he voted out.

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Reply #159 on: June 24, 2016, 11:39:35 pm
Why should we give our money to these immigrants who refuse to work and claim benefits? Ridiculous. Yes I'm not British but me and my family have worked very hard to get where we are now. For instance, my old man is now mortgage free after paying off the 250k mortgage he got in '05.

Majority of the immigrants are here simply to make quick money through blackmarket jobs/benefits to make a 12 bedroom mansion back home and drive a 2016 Benz. Why am I paying for a Romanian to go back home 2 years later and live life in a mansion?

Hypocrit.
So, I suck at these stuff right, but I'm interested to know a little more. What happens now that UK left?
Things can go wild, there's not a person in the world that can predict the concequences of this.

I rate it as much as the Fall of the Berlin Wall.

The final blow to a country that was once the greatest. The effects are already visible with a crashing market (even worldwide) and unstable value in your currency. The bank can totally correct it... but at what cost to the economy's long term outlook. Well done, Brits. Well done.

Don't get me wrong: the principles of the EU, it's failed policies and outdated need is undeniably a joke; and leaving isn't that bad of a choice but one thing you have failed to understand is the delicate global economy and it's investors that do not like change. The economy of the world is not easily tampered with. The repercussions of this could have a lasting impact on the UK. Mainly if the UK's AAA rating is revoked, that would be even more billions lost in potential investors... on top of the billions you've already lost last night alone.
I hope you ain't talking about EU here. If you're talking about UK, I agree, its doomed as much as the EU.

And what Teddy wrote is just the beginning, the geo-political specter is changing, this isn't an accident, yet a well developed plan for the future of our world. EU just lost a big ass sponsor(3rd sponsor after Germany and France), and most important, a big ass market.
You can expect a stronger partnership with Russia because of this. And a big ass reaction because of that.

Basically lots of actions and lots of reaction worldwide are gonna happen because of this, and its gonna fuck us even more up, when it comes to economy, that 2008 might look as a fairy tale.


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Reply #160 on: June 24, 2016, 11:48:18 pm
I hope you ain't talking about EU here.
Probably not considering the EU has never been great.

You can expect a stronger partnership with Russia because of this. And a big ass reaction because of that.
You what? :uhm:

Basically lots of actions and lots of reaction worldwide are gonna happen because of this, and its gonna fuck us even more up, when it comes to economy, that 2008 might look as a fairy tale.
Everything will stabilize within a few months, the UK will remain in the EU for a couple years to come and in that time negotiations will likely be successful considering the fact they have to be if Europe and the EU is going to recover from this.

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Reply #161 on: June 24, 2016, 11:58:05 pm
You what? :uhm:
Yep. Germany, France and Italy were constantly trying to raise the relationship with Russia to partnership, but mostly 'under the radar' because Uncle Sam would just teach them all a lesson, as soon as they would go further with it.

Now they have a good and existential reason for it to push it harder, while the USA just got a bit slapped by this, as their influence didn't prevail. In the same time Russia is forcing the "EuroAsian Union", in which EU and ex SSSR countries, would become one big economic organization, it might not be realistic in the next 10 years, but in future, economy says it is.

You got tehology on the West, and you got gas, oil, metals, and other resources on the East, if Europe is to survive the global race in economy vs the big economic giants that are rising non stop(China, India, etc), they'll have to do it with Russia and other countries around her.

Its a process that's already been happening for years (north steam route, south steam route), hence the sanctions against Russia were forced out inside EU, to stop that process for a while.
Now, the process can continue.

Everything will stabilize within a few months, the UK will remain in the EU for a couple years to come and in that time negotiations will likely be successful considering the fact they have to be if Europe and the EU is going to recover from this.
Don't be so naive. That's like saying "Everything will stabilize within a few months, East Germany is gonna stay in the USSR for a couple of years, and they're all just gonna work out a deal" in 1989.

That's not how geopolitics works out in reality.

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Reply #162 on: June 25, 2016, 12:26:18 am
Yep. Germany, France and Italy were constantly trying to raise the relationship with Russia to partnership, but mostly 'under the radar' because Uncle Sam would just teach them all a lesson, as soon as they would go further with it.
You think at a time when the EU is struggling and has quite a few anti-Russian countries within it along with Ukraine trying to join, they are going to decide to strengthen ties with Russia? Yeah right.

Now they have a good and existential reason for it to push it harder, while the USA just got a bit slapped by this, as their influence didn't prevail. In the same time Russia is forcing the "EuroAsian Union", in which EU and ex SSSR countries, would become one big economic organization, it might not be realistic in the next 10 years, but in future, economy says it is.
I need some of that stuff Russians are smoking.

You got tehology on the West, and you got gas, oil, metals, and other resources on the East, if Europe is to survive the global race in economy vs the big economic giants that are rising non stop(China, India, etc), they'll have to do it with Russia and other countries around her.
Well thankfully the UK will soon be able to trade with whoever the fuck we want without having to run it through the EU first, I guess we'll recover in no time if what you say is true, though the last time I checked, our biggest export to Russia was milk, which was stopped due to the UK/EU sanctioning Russia and Russia sanctioning the UK/EU in retaliation, I see what you mean about strengthening ties... :lol:

Don't be so naive. That's like saying "Everything will stabilize within a few months, East Germany is gonna stay in the USSR for a couple of years, and they're all just gonna work out a deal" in 1989.

That's not how geopolitics works out in reality.
I'm not being naive, I'm seeing the bigger picture, The EU needs UK trade, the UK needs EU trade, how can economies recover if the biggest thing they depend on, trade, is cut off?

You know Cofi, I've always been curious, why does someone who isn't from Russia, non-stop talk about Russia? It's like me being patriotic about the USA...

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Reply #163 on: June 25, 2016, 12:38:41 am
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>The year is 2050.
>An old Briton walks along the streets of London.
>Derelict buildings everywhere.
>Starving people dying in the streets.
>The sick begging for food and medicines, left untreated because the NHS has collapsed.
>Girls prostituting themselves to support their entire extended families, now left homeless and jobless.
>Suddenly, the old Briton gets a heart attack. He knows no help will come, there is no mobile phone service in the country anymore, after all.
>As he is drawing his terminal breath, one final thought reverberates throughout his mind:
Spoiler for Hiden:
I SHOULD HAVE VOTED TO REMAIN...

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Reply #164 on: June 25, 2016, 01:14:33 am
Out Out Out !!! UK is out! ( finally.. )
I was sure it was going out of EU
The interesting question now is "WHO WILL WIN IN USA" ?? Donald Trump V.s. Hillary Clinton
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