free

News

collapse

User Info

 
 
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

* Recent Posts

NOTICE OF PARKING ENFORCEMENT CHANGES by Huntsman
[June 19, 2025, 05:22:50 pm]


Re: Stopping by by Sinister
[June 08, 2025, 01:58:04 pm]


Re: Stopping by by Ehks
[June 04, 2025, 12:25:17 am]


Re: Rest in peace by Stefanrsb
[June 02, 2025, 03:38:02 am]


Re: [SA:MP]House of Sforza | The Elite Power | Estd. 2006 | LS - LV by Stefanrsb
[June 02, 2025, 03:09:22 am]


Re: The Soprano Family | Royal Loyalty by Stefanrsb
[June 02, 2025, 03:00:31 am]


Re: The Gvardia Family || San Fierro's Main Power || Best criminal group of 09/10/11 by Stefanrsb
[June 02, 2025, 02:47:01 am]


Re: BALLAS | In memory of INFERNO 9 and NBA by Stefanrsb
[June 02, 2025, 02:31:29 am]


Re: Count to 1,000,000. by Stefanrsb
[June 02, 2025, 02:15:04 am]


Re: Stopping by by Traser
[June 01, 2025, 10:23:13 pm]


Re: Stopping by by Old Catzu
[May 18, 2025, 07:27:06 pm]


Re: Stopping by by TheRock
[May 18, 2025, 06:44:49 am]

* Who's Online

  • Dot Guests: 374
  • Dot Hidden: 0
  • Dot Users: 0

There aren't any users online.

* Birthday Calender

June 2025
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 [30]

What would you pay for and what wouldn't you want other's to pay for?

Teddy · 4322

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Brian

  • Community Leader
  • ******
    • Posts: 7828
  • Webmaster
  • With us since: 02/01/2009
    YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
  • SA:MP: [R*]Brian / Andrew Banks
Well, lets take an example from /sponsor. One player donates his cash, but it must be distributed equally among all players. Instead of rewarding the donator, how about we reward the entire community? Some things that jump to mind scream supporting our development team in one way or another, or to vote priority of something on the roadmap for say a week. Want to see Fishing? Donate $20USD and buy 5 days for the dev team to focus on that project.  Arbitrary numbers of course. Pay to win could potentially be the death of the server, and it's a touchy subject to even bring it up.

If the intention is donations required to keep the server alive, then reward all the players, not the donator. I don't even expect a thank you anymore when I /sponsor, but I still do; because I love this place and want to see the playerbase stay. Another example: if we meet a preset donation amount for the month, then the entire server can use neons for a week. Or get trucking back in the server and to hell with this /mine skills for now. Even a simple storage for guns inside a house for the whole server would get people donating. The players aren't here cuz SA:MP has the best graphics, or is the latest and greatest. The players stay because of a loyalty to the community as a whole, and the idea of what Argonath should be. Promises were made about updates, and some have been met, others have not, HQ's got its own re-structuring going on, and devs have a huge workload.

If we're going for donations, lets make it a team effort. EVERYBODY benefits, just like /sponsor, whether youve been idle for 12hrs or just sponsored 50k yourself.

I like this idea, never been supportive of the play to win. If someone donates, he should get perks that does not affect his in-game status or the status of another player (in sense of making it easier for a person with spare money IRL to obtain something.)



Offline Rei

  • Hero
  • ****
    • Posts: 2276
  • Baba Yaga
  • With us since: 25/09/2013
    YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
I'd pay if we get devin back, so yea
Donators can have Devin back :D


Offline Celso

  • Celso Williams
  • Veteran
  • ***
    • Posts: 858
  • Playing Argonath Since 21/08/2011
  • With us since: 02/12/2011
    YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Would pay for an hourly payday for Emergency services.! (Police, FD, EMS)


Offline Stivi

  • Hero
  • ****
    • Posts: 4431
  • With us since: 29/03/2012
    YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
  • Discord: Stiven#6102
Well, provide the argument than. Special wearables is not something that gives an advantage over other, neither pay to win. As you have said yourself "appearance things only". Faster skill increase is just putting a bit less work in gaining those skills, seems like a reasonable compromise. If in your opinion both these ideas are pay to win or gives too much advantage, almost all ideas provided in this topic are unsuitable, leaving only something like a forum/panel badge.
It's not p2w, however they'll have access to stuff normal players won't have. Having VIP sales, sure. But having an item and the rest not isn't fine to me and others who pointed out as well. Appearance things only, yes I'm fine with that. But "more items in /wear" fine, not "have this parrot others can't have it". A chance to partake in a sale where the parrot is sold, sure.

Skill increase? That's p2w. You literally pay money so you can be better at stuff. Like buying an RPG at CS:GO, with 0.1 sec reload time and ~ ammo. You have a slightly better chance to upgrade your skills.

Mr Cofiliano how can you deny that we had any relation or intercourse, while you are prosecuting me?


Offline Khm

  • Webmaster
  • *****
    • Posts: 5456
    With us since: 29/09/2012
    YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
  • SA:MP: Marshall Kings
  • V:MP: Khm
Why money? Why not get the advantages with activity and seniority? Money would be so unfair for some people who are playing from internet cafés..



Offline Celso

  • Celso Williams
  • Veteran
  • ***
    • Posts: 858
  • Playing Argonath Since 21/08/2011
  • With us since: 02/12/2011
    YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
It's not p2w, however they'll have access to stuff normal players won't have. Having VIP sales, sure. But having an item and the rest not isn't fine to me and others who pointed out as well. Appearance things only, yes I'm fine with that. But "more items in /wear" fine, not "have this parrot others can't have it". A chance to partake in a sale where the parrot is sold, sure.

Skill increase? That's p2w. You literally pay money so you can be better at stuff. Like buying an RPG at CS:GO, with 0.1 sec reload time and ~ ammo. You have a slightly better chance to upgrade your skills.
Agreed on the skill part..
But if you want to have some cooler stuff then buy it.. it's the hole point of donater, to have something others don't have.


Offline Stivi

  • Hero
  • ****
    • Posts: 4431
  • With us since: 29/03/2012
    YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
  • Discord: Stiven#6102
But if you want to have some cooler stuff then buy it.. it's the hole point of donater, to have something others don't have.
Have something before others would be acceptable, but not limited-access to stuff. I'm not going to donate any money, I can't access my bank account until 18y/o and need parental permission to make something with them (be that withdrawal or transfer), so the moment people get what I can't get because they donated is the moment I quit.

Mr Cofiliano how can you deny that we had any relation or intercourse, while you are prosecuting me?


Offline MasonV_797

  • Ex-Scripter - GFX Artist (Not for Argo)
  • User
  • *
    • Posts: 16
  • Hi...I'm Mason :)
  • With us since: 15/02/2011
    YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
  • SA:MP: [HR]Mason
  • Minecraft: MasonV_797
For:
                   
  • If someone donates they should get a Donator badge on forums.
  • In-game commands or functions, may or may not have limited use or time limited. Not anything that will give a advantage over other players.
  • Bonus XP boost for skills.

Against:
  • Financial Gains.
  • Purchasing Vehicles.

These are the things that are at the top of my head right now. I am against paying for an advantage over other players in most situations, as there are things that would be nice to pay for, but, a slight advantage I do not mind. I do understand everyone is in different financial status and conditions (IRL) that might not allow them to purchase these perks, so it would be nice to see the majority of the perks give little to no advantage over others as giving money to a server should really be about supporting the staff that work hard to keep the servers in order and help pay the costs of hosting.



Offline TeddyTopic starter

  • Orc
  • *****
    • Posts: 9161
  • "I'm on top of the world because of you."
  • With us since: 05/02/2011
    YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Why money? Why not get the advantages with activity and seniority? Money would be so unfair for some people who are playing from internet cafés..

Sure, can you please find us a host that'll accept payment in the form of activity and seniority?  If you can find one then by all freaking means, I'd have it up and running in a few hours on that new host. However that's not how the world works buttercup. One day, you'll figure that out.



To everyone else,

Thanks for the suggestions and feedback. I know some of you voiced against this entirely but that wasn't the question. It's not a matter of if we do this but when and to what extent. That extent has and will be determined by the feedback here and I will stress again that we will not make this like some shitty overpopular rp server where you pay for the dumbest most p2w style shit. This will be very controlled and very carefully monitored. I do agree that if you are a donator and you don't get an advantage, what's the point? People are raised at a very young age, when you do good you get a reward. That's society. That's how the world works. It's time for us to adapt to the new model.


Thanks again for the feedback, I will personally review each and every reply before taking a finalized proposal to the owner.



 


free
SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal