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Reply #15 on: July 08, 2016, 12:31:54 pm
It's virtually impossible for cops to RP being corrupt, and 100% impossible for the FBI to do so. This is due to factors such as forum posts and messages in /p being taken into account as well as actions ingame.

People use the "We don't officially support IC/OOC" quote to justify this, but yeah, totally ruins a lot of RP.
People who take /p and forum posts in non-rp topics as RP should be fired.

People who use "we don't support IC/OOC" as an excuse to catch corrupt cops using /p evidence should be fired.



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Reply #16 on: July 08, 2016, 12:36:14 pm
Yes that's very sad, and if we speak for sake of RP must change.



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Reply #17 on: July 08, 2016, 12:37:21 pm
As Julio said, if there's a high ranked cop that is corrupt and does something, the victims will go and publish it all in /p, forums etc... you just can't do something 'hidden' in Argonath, even if you as a criminal kill someone far away from everyone, the victim has the ability to leak it all out in /p and on forums and so on...



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Reply #18 on: July 08, 2016, 12:39:44 pm
As Julio said, if there's a high ranked cop that is corrupt and does something, the victims will go and publish it all in /p, forums etc... you just can't do something 'hidden' in Argonath, even if you as a criminal kill someone far away from everyone, the victim has the ability to leak it all out in /p and on forums and so on...

Even if the victim talks, must not affect until the there's proper investigation according to the rules and roleplay that finds guilty the personage.



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Reply #19 on: July 08, 2016, 12:41:28 pm
If the whole idea of not being able to commit crimes off duty was in place years ago, we wouldn't have had a lot of the amazing RP scenarios from our own jcstodds or GiacJr. We wouldn't have had "Corleone SWAT" (which people moaned about, but I personally found hilarious).

Sure, I see the point being made, "one side or the other," but that makes it boring. Some people can yawn their way through RPs, but sorry, I'm not one of them!



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Reply #20 on: July 08, 2016, 12:41:48 pm
Even if the victim talks, must not affect until the there's proper investigation according to the rules and roleplay that finds guilty the personage.

This.



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Reply #21 on: July 08, 2016, 12:46:27 pm
That still doesn't change the fact that the person has the ability to flip your public image, because majority still use /p and forum for roleplay matters.



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Reply #22 on: July 08, 2016, 12:48:12 pm
Even if the victim talks, must not affect until the there's proper investigation according to the rules and roleplay that finds guilty the personage.

Only way to achieve this is to yet add another rule. Currently the amount of rules on SA:MP is ridiculous. One cancels an other and so forth.

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Reply #23 on: July 08, 2016, 12:55:37 pm
That still doesn't change the fact that the person has the ability to flip your public image, because majority still use /p and forum for roleplay matters.

I got your problem as high ranked cop is the image (which for my opinion is very wrong however won't put in question your idea). But we're speaking for a limitation which is globalized with force from inner also called rules that stops few groups or individuals to exercise some certain roleplay out of ethical lines of being that virgin cop.

Only way to achieve this is to yet add another rule. Currently the amount of rules on SA:MP is ridiculous. One cancels an other and so forth.

No there's no rule needed. According to our constitution; a person is innocent until proven otherwise from court, ok. That applies not only for civil citizens, but for cops as well. With this said, we have opportunity to open door for a whole new world where cops should not focus only on notable criminals, but even in cops which somehow abused their duty. Example? Case of FBI v CIA.



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Reply #24 on: July 08, 2016, 12:57:42 pm
As Julio said, if there's a high ranked cop that is corrupt and does something, the victims will go and publish it all in /p, forums etc... you just can't do something 'hidden' in Argonath, even if you as a criminal kill someone far away from everyone, the victim has the ability to leak it all out in /p and on forums and so on...
if nobody gave a shit about bitching people over /p then they wouldn't bitch because they gain no attention



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Reply #25 on: July 08, 2016, 01:33:41 pm
it sucks when you're in 2016 and still learning the ten codes, most police departments don't even use them anymore

The whole "criminal group members can't go on police duty" is even more retarded and disgusting.
Oh yeah absolutely, I lost my notoriety so for the lolz I wanted to be a sheriff in Bone County and it said that I can't go on duty because I'm in a criminal group, so I asked in /p if that's a mistake and someone told me to just leave the criminal group.

"Leave the criminal group"?



NO. I will not leave 16 groups to be a cop for 20 minutes and get tired of it. That update just made less people interested in being a cop.

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Reply #26 on: July 08, 2016, 01:44:45 pm
Argonath used to be about freedom, freedom to be whatever you wanted to be without strings and limitations.

I also used to be a cop when I wasn't role-playing a criminal. And it's quite nice, to break the habit and experience something different but nowadays you need to be a monk to be a cop.

I wish we could change that..



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Reply #27 on: July 08, 2016, 01:50:37 pm


I'd highly recommend you censor names of the groups or meet the consequences  :lol:



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Reply #28 on: July 08, 2016, 01:53:23 pm
The reason for all of this is HQ listening to the players.

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Reply #29 on: July 08, 2016, 02:24:31 pm
Argonath used to be about freedom, freedom to be whatever you wanted to be without strings and limitations.

I also used to be a cop when I wasn't role-playing a criminal. And it's quite nice, to break the habit and experience something different but nowadays you need to be a monk to be a cop.

I wish we could change that..

Yeah totally, the freedom to RP freely with a minimum of rules was one of the ideals Argonath was built on if I remember correctly?



 


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